Where are all the chickens?
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
I'm convinced that in 100+ years, people will look at the way we intensively farmed animals and not be able to get their heads around how we could have ever thought it was remotely acceptable, much in the same way we look back at the slave trade and the holocaust.
Fixed for youBJG1 said:
vegetables are cheap. There is no excuse for moral shortcomings here.
I like the taste of chicken and until a better way to intensive farm it cheaply will eat it, i think pork is probably just as bad. i still eat it i know it is wrong and never preach it is, but I'm just a sucker for KFC as well.Yipper said:
Chicken production covers 0.3% of the UK's entire landmass. .
Are you sure that's correct?If so, it means that chicken production covers over 720 km² of the UK landmass.
The equivalent of a 1km wide strip of land from London to Hamburg, covered in chickens.
That's one hell of a lot of chickens.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I'm convinced that in 100+ years, people will look at the way we intensively farmed animals and not be able to get their heads around how we could have ever thought it was remotely acceptable, much in the same way we look back at the slave trade and the holocaust.
It's absolutely shameful. And I'm not even a vegetarian.
Me neither and I totally agree, it's quite sad how we abuse another species to become obese. Fat humans stuffing their faces with the suffering of other animals. The UK is quite good compared to places like China or the USA, which is shocking.It's absolutely shameful. And I'm not even a vegetarian.
If we do ever get visited by aliens we might be in for a world of pain if start bringing all this up and giving us our just deserts ( rather than first or main course )
Peta go too far, but somethings are still brushed under the carpet as we don't want to know about it.
The Spruce goose said:
I agree and still eat it as well. If i could afford better quality i would but as a consumer we devour what is cheap.
Disagree wholeheartedly.I enjoy my meat, but I also have a conscience, and I have worked in farming.
Consequently, I buy no meat from supermarkets at all, and instead travel some 22 miles to my favourite Butcher - who is a member of the Guild of Master Butchers.
Yes, I pay a bit more, but the meat has Flavour as its all free range and I feel better knowing it lived a better life.
This post is not meant to be a typical PH look at me and my money type thread as we are not high earners - we do however enjoy our food, and as such want the best quality we can afford - in terms of both quality and animalewelfare.
We also never eat KFC or similar for the above reasons......
The Spruce goose said:
I like the taste of chicken and until a better way to intensive farm it cheaply will eat it, i think pork is probably just as bad. i still eat it i know it is wrong and never preach it is, but I'm just a sucker for KFC as well.
You can't possibly agree that it'll be looked back on as being as bad as the slave trade or the holocaust if your taste for KFC trumps your moral objections. Unless of course you think those opposed to the slave trade made a big fuss out of nothing, of course.BJG1 said:
You can't possibly agree that it'll be looked back on as being as bad as the slave trade or the holocaust if your taste for KFC trumps your moral objections. Unless of course you think those opposed to the slave trade made a big fuss out of nothing, of course.
it you think the slave trade is the same as intensive farming then you are bats
t crazy, i was just being honest, a lot more probably think the same but don't post as the vilify squad will jump on them.ive necked pheasants, ducks, chickens, killed fish, skinned a deer so understand it first hand which is more than a lot so yes I would love to buy from a butcher but unfortunately good quality meat is expensive so i am a realistic. If you son't want to eat it fair do's but don't shove rhetoric down other peoples throats that don't follow your ideology.
The Spruce goose said:
it you think the slave trade is the same as intensive farming then you are batst crazy, i was just being honest, a lot more probably think the same but don't post as the vilify squad will jump on them.
ive necked pheasants, ducks, chickens, killed fish, skinned a deer so understand it first hand which is more than a lot so yes I would love to buy from a butcher but unfortunately good quality meat is expensive so i am a realistic. If you son't want to eat it fair do's but don't shove rhetoric down other peoples throats that don't follow your ideology.
You replied to a post saying it would be looked back on the same way as we do the Holocaust and the slave trade with "I agree"t crazy, i was just being honest, a lot more probably think the same but don't post as the vilify squad will jump on them.ive necked pheasants, ducks, chickens, killed fish, skinned a deer so understand it first hand which is more than a lot so yes I would love to buy from a butcher but unfortunately good quality meat is expensive so i am a realistic. If you son't want to eat it fair do's but don't shove rhetoric down other peoples throats that don't follow your ideology.
Apologies for assuming you meant that you agreed...
Driver101 said:
It's £2.98 for a full chicken in Asda.
I find it incredible that is even possible.
That should tell you everything you need to know about the quality of life that the chicken has enjoyed. To rear, feed, slaughter, prepare, package and transport that to the supermarket, AND THEN have some profit, for <£3 doesn't speak volumes.I find it incredible that is even possible.
Vote with your feet if you have a conscience.
garyhun said:
Free range for me at a minimum.
You need to swot up on what free range really means - you might be shocked.CrutyRammers said:
The state of the ones which come out of the battery farms is appalling though.
These are three ex-battery hens which we rescued on 27th August.
Four weeks of TLC later, they are already looking a bit healthier and starting to grow their feathers, their eggs are darkening and they are nowhere near as terrified as when they arrived.
Great job saving the battery hens!!
I'm now aware that free range is not what I thought it was. So what chicken (or any meat) can you buy to be sure it's been humanely reared? Farm assured, rspca assured, soil association organic, other?
I had a vegetarian Sunday lunch yesterday and it was lovely so I'll happily forgo meat if I cannot guarantee the treatment of the animal. But when I do want meat I really want to avoid anything that's not humanely reared.
Very eye opening thread!
I'm now aware that free range is not what I thought it was. So what chicken (or any meat) can you buy to be sure it's been humanely reared? Farm assured, rspca assured, soil association organic, other?
I had a vegetarian Sunday lunch yesterday and it was lovely so I'll happily forgo meat if I cannot guarantee the treatment of the animal. But when I do want meat I really want to avoid anything that's not humanely reared.
Very eye opening thread!
garyhun said:
I'm now aware that free range is not what I thought it was. So what chicken (or any meat) can you buy to be sure it's been humanely reared? Farm assured, rspca assured, soil association organic, other?
The easiest way is to go to a good butchers' shop, ideally in or near a farming area. All the ones round here have boards outside telling you which farmers the meat's come from - and many of them run their own farms. If not, they're usually from farming families.TooMany2cvs said:
garyhun said:
I'm now aware that free range is not what I thought it was. So what chicken (or any meat) can you buy to be sure it's been humanely reared? Farm assured, rspca assured, soil association organic, other?
The easiest way is to go to a good butchers' shop, ideally in or near a farming area. All the ones round here have boards outside telling you which farmers the meat's come from - and many of them run their own farms. If not, they're usually from farming families.Gassing Station | Food, Drink & Restaurants | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff