waiter unhappy with tip
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fiju said:
Yeah I tip him because I feel like tipping him. He provides a great level of service, and continues to provide it time after time. There's a difference between that and tipping culture.
He does a top job every time, he doesn't charge me to do my beard (£6), and I leave knowing that I can't get a better trim anywhere. He doesn't own the business so I know me giving him £2 means a lot to him (and it saves me £4 by doing so).
so the 2 of you are colluding to defraud the business owner?He does a top job every time, he doesn't charge me to do my beard (£6), and I leave knowing that I can't get a better trim anywhere. He doesn't own the business so I know me giving him £2 means a lot to him (and it saves me £4 by doing so).
keirik said:
Cotty said:
easytiger123 said:
Jesus Christ there's some tight arses and miserable gits on here!
It has got nothing to do with being tight. Put the price they want for the meal and service on the menu and people will choose to pay it or not. That way you take away the moral dilemma from customers who just want a nice meal. DickyC said:
Would you care to expand on that?
In my experience, harumphing isn't a good debating technique.
tbh its all been said above - why dont you tip other professions, why do you feel the need to tip, are you just trying to be the big man etc etcIn my experience, harumphing isn't a good debating technique.
great word harumphing though!
Edited by petemurphy on Tuesday 13th August 10:54
Robertj21a said:
DickyC said:
tannhauser said:
DickyC said:
Tipping started in Britain and was well established by the 17th Century.
Now it's part of the occasion. It's theatre. If a place expects you to tip and you don't want to, go somewhere else; McDonald's or somewhere.
Sake.
What a load of bks. Theatre? Now it's part of the occasion. It's theatre. If a place expects you to tip and you don't want to, go somewhere else; McDonald's or somewhere.
Sake.
"Sake" indeed. Wasn't exactly blown away by sake.
You'll be telling me next you don't tip taxi drivers.
By all means, add a tip for service that is significantly over what you might have reasonably expected. Just don't tip for mediocrity.
TX.
Mr Roper said:
I visit States/Florida fairly often so I'm quite used to tipping. Last time while staying in the tourist trap my light lunch bill came to under $40...Handed over a $100 bill and then waited ages for his return. In the end I had to hunt him down to which he explained that it's not uncommon for the change to be left as a tip "as its the norm here".
Was promptly told to not be a cheeky piss taking little st and to give me my money. No tip left on that occasion.
That's very rare though.
Back over again in few weeks for more
They normally say "do you need change?" If you gave the money in the usual folder it's possible he hadn't looked at it. Was promptly told to not be a cheeky piss taking little st and to give me my money. No tip left on that occasion.
That's very rare though.
Back over again in few weeks for more
I did have an issue in a Disney Signature retaurant, eating on their dining plan, where I paid the already hefty tip and extras in cash, only to find they'd charged the extras to the room, and presumably kept all the cash as a tip. Disney refunded it without question.
easytiger123 said:
Jesus Christ there's some tight arses and miserable gits on here!
It's part of going out to any vaguely half-decent restaurant. You tip. It's almost always added to the bill in this country and unless the service is truly appalling (which has maybe happened on a handful of occasions in 35+yrs of eating out 2 to 3 times a week), I always pay it without a second thought and more often than not, especially if it's a regular haunt, I'll bung the waiter some extra cash on top of the tip. I cannot fking stand people who whine about tipping. And before anyone says anything, it has absolutely nothing to do with your own financial circumstances and absolutely everything to do with being cheap.
Well said. I think the phrase is 'tighter than two coats of paint'.It's part of going out to any vaguely half-decent restaurant. You tip. It's almost always added to the bill in this country and unless the service is truly appalling (which has maybe happened on a handful of occasions in 35+yrs of eating out 2 to 3 times a week), I always pay it without a second thought and more often than not, especially if it's a regular haunt, I'll bung the waiter some extra cash on top of the tip. I cannot fking stand people who whine about tipping. And before anyone says anything, it has absolutely nothing to do with your own financial circumstances and absolutely everything to do with being cheap.
DickyC said:
We're a fifth of the way through the 21st Century and you want to eat in a place where people are employed to bring food to your table with personal service and be well dressed and agreeable and knowledgable and do a little dance and sing a little song? Of course it's theatre. Non tippers in this situation have joined a club but don't want to abide by the rules. Just tip them.
Do I expect people to do their job, and not have to tip? Of course! Tipping is such an outdated, patronising and condescending behaviour. Personal service, well dressed and agreeable? Surely prerequisites of any public-facing job. Knowledgeable? Of course, but this is often lacking. Song and dance? No thanks, I don't like "theatre".
DickyC said:
You'll be telling me next you don't tip taxi drivers.
I don't. Why would I? Edited by tannhauser on Tuesday 13th August 12:27
petemurphy said:
easytiger123 said:
Jesus Christ there's some tight arses and miserable gits on here!
It's part of going out to any vaguely half-decent restaurant. You tip. It's almost always added to the bill in this country and unless the service is truly appalling (which has maybe happened on a handful of occasions in 35+yrs of eating out 2 to 3 times a week), I always pay it without a second thought and more often than not, especially if it's a regular haunt, I'll bung the waiter some extra cash on top of the tip. I cannot fking stand people who whine about tipping. And before anyone says anything, it has absolutely nothing to do with your own financial circumstances and absolutely everything to do with being cheap.
what utter nonsenseIt's part of going out to any vaguely half-decent restaurant. You tip. It's almost always added to the bill in this country and unless the service is truly appalling (which has maybe happened on a handful of occasions in 35+yrs of eating out 2 to 3 times a week), I always pay it without a second thought and more often than not, especially if it's a regular haunt, I'll bung the waiter some extra cash on top of the tip. I cannot fking stand people who whine about tipping. And before anyone says anything, it has absolutely nothing to do with your own financial circumstances and absolutely everything to do with being cheap.
"Bung the waiter some extra cash on top of tip"? What an arse. It's people like you fueling this sense of entitlement in reward for mediocrity, and driving up the cost of eating out in a wider sense.
keirik said:
Cotty said:
easytiger123 said:
Jesus Christ there's some tight arses and miserable gits on here!
It has got nothing to do with being tight. Put the price they want for the meal and service on the menu and people will choose to pay it or not. That way you take away the moral dilemma from customers who just want a nice meal. Restaurants should charge accordingly and set their prices according to the standard of food and service they offer. Indeed I'd rather patronise an establishment that expressly accepts "no tips" as one of their USPs - surely there's a business idea here for someone? I'm sure some restaurants discourage tipping, similar to a number of more civilised, sensible or modest countries, like Japan.
Cotty said:
easytiger123 said:
Jesus Christ there's some tight arses and miserable gits on here!
It has got nothing to do with being tight. Put the price they want for the meal and service on the menu and people will choose to pay it or not. That way you take away the moral dilemma from customers who just want a nice meal. Tannhauser, you pop up on every single thread disccussing tipping in restaurants, so we established long ago that you are a skinflint, tighter-than-two-coats-of-paint ranting gammon on this subject.
~10% tip is the UK societal norm for tipping in a restaurant, so either pay that or stick to McDonalds or the chip shop.
~10% tip is the UK societal norm for tipping in a restaurant, so either pay that or stick to McDonalds or the chip shop.
Olivera said:
Tannhauser, you pop up on every single thread disccussing tipping in restaurants, so we established long ago that you are a skinflint, tighter-than-two-coats-of-paint ranting gammon on this subject.
~10% tip is the UK societal norm for tipping in a restaurant, so either pay that or stick to McDonalds or the chip shop.
Get you snooping at my posting history. It's a ridiculous concept - I've worked NMW in a public facing but tipless job. There's no logic. Why tip in restaurants, but few other low paid public facing jobs?~10% tip is the UK societal norm for tipping in a restaurant, so either pay that or stick to McDonalds or the chip shop.
I'll continue to eat out and not tip, apart from when I choose to do so, thank you very much.
sgrimshaw said:
Why would you not tip in McDonalds?
They deliver your meal to your table if required.
Talk about double standards.
I have not ordered food in Witherspoons for a while but if I remember you order and pay at the bar. You give them your table number and they bring you your food. I am assuming no tip as you pay the price on the menu before you get you food.They deliver your meal to your table if required.
Talk about double standards.
Edited by Cotty on Tuesday 13th August 13:08
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