waiter unhappy with tip

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Adenauer

18,584 posts

237 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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I'll leave a tip if it's deserved and I won't if it isn't, the amount of which is up to me.

markiii

3,642 posts

195 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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fiju said:
Yeah I tip him because I feel like tipping him. He provides a great level of service, and continues to provide it time after time. There's a difference between that and tipping culture.
He does a top job every time, he doesn't charge me to do my beard (£6), and I leave knowing that I can't get a better trim anywhere. He doesn't own the business so I know me giving him £2 means a lot to him (and it saves me £4 by doing so).
so the 2 of you are colluding to defraud the business owner?

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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steveo3002 said:
madness ....tip someone for carrying a plate of food 30 secs across the room

get a live saving operation, nurses wipng your bum etc - nothing
Speak for yourself, whilst not giving money I have regularly given my parents cancer nurses gifts of appreciation

Cotty

39,642 posts

285 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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keirik said:
Cotty said:
easytiger123 said:
Jesus Christ there's some tight arses and miserable gits on here!

It has got nothing to do with being tight. Put the price they want for the meal and service on the menu and people will choose to pay it or not. That way you take away the moral dilemma from customers who just want a nice meal.
Anytime anyone says it's not about the money... It's absolutely about the money
Nope. If you add 10% or the restaurant adds 10% to the bill the amount is the same

petemurphy

10,132 posts

184 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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DickyC said:
Would you care to expand on that?

In my experience, harumphing isn't a good debating technique.
tbh its all been said above - why dont you tip other professions, why do you feel the need to tip, are you just trying to be the big man etc etc

great word harumphing though!


Edited by petemurphy on Tuesday 13th August 10:54

Terminator X

15,168 posts

205 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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Robertj21a said:
DickyC said:
tannhauser said:
DickyC said:
Tipping started in Britain and was well established by the 17th Century.

Now it's part of the occasion. It's theatre. If a place expects you to tip and you don't want to, go somewhere else; McDonald's or somewhere.

Sake.
What a load of bks. Theatre? laugh

"Sake" indeed. Wasn't exactly blown away by sake.
We're a fifth of the way through the 21st Century and you want to eat in a place where people are employed to bring food to your table with personal service and be well dressed and agreeable and knowledgable and do a little dance and sing a little song? Of course it's theatre. Non tippers in this situation have joined a club but don't want to abide by the rules. Just tip them.

You'll be telling me next you don't tip taxi drivers.
I'm not sure what century you're living in but the 21st century shouldn't be a party to tipping for just a standard service. It simply ensures that management will continue to pay poorly for as long as they can get away with it. If they can't afford to pay properly they should put up the basic prices, or close down.
By all means, add a tip for service that is significantly over what you might have reasonably expected. Just don't tip for mediocrity.
So by not tipping you think it will force businesses to pay low wage staff more laugh acknowledge it, you are a cheap motherfker.

TX.

fiju

704 posts

64 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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markiii said:
so the 2 of you are colluding to defraud the business owner?
Yes. Call the police.

sgrimshaw

7,335 posts

251 months

Sheepshanks

32,887 posts

120 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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Mr Roper said:
I visit States/Florida fairly often so I'm quite used to tipping. Last time while staying in the tourist trap my light lunch bill came to under $40...Handed over a $100 bill and then waited ages for his return. In the end I had to hunt him down to which he explained that it's not uncommon for the change to be left as a tip "as its the norm here".
Was promptly told to not be a cheeky piss taking little st and to give me my money. No tip left on that occasion.

That's very rare though.

Back over again in few weeks for more smile
They normally say "do you need change?" If you gave the money in the usual folder it's possible he hadn't looked at it.

I did have an issue in a Disney Signature retaurant, eating on their dining plan, where I paid the already hefty tip and extras in cash, only to find they'd charged the extras to the room, and presumably kept all the cash as a tip. Disney refunded it without question.

dave_s13

13,815 posts

270 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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I'm with Pauly and Christopher on this one. For standard food served to a satisfactory standard you can FRO and if you complain I'll lob a brick at your head and my pal will shoot you.

BigMon

4,244 posts

130 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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easytiger123 said:
Jesus Christ there's some tight arses and miserable gits on here!

It's part of going out to any vaguely half-decent restaurant. You tip. It's almost always added to the bill in this country and unless the service is truly appalling (which has maybe happened on a handful of occasions in 35+yrs of eating out 2 to 3 times a week), I always pay it without a second thought and more often than not, especially if it's a regular haunt, I'll bung the waiter some extra cash on top of the tip. I cannot fking stand people who whine about tipping. And before anyone says anything, it has absolutely nothing to do with your own financial circumstances and absolutely everything to do with being cheap.

Well said. I think the phrase is 'tighter than two coats of paint'.

TX1

2,383 posts

184 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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I thought 10% is the norm when tipping and I always tip that amount if the service is good, another thing to bear in mind is if the waiting staff did not get tips the service would go downhill so tips give them an incentive to look after the customer.

tannhauser

1,773 posts

216 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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DickyC said:
We're a fifth of the way through the 21st Century and you want to eat in a place where people are employed to bring food to your table with personal service and be well dressed and agreeable and knowledgable and do a little dance and sing a little song? Of course it's theatre. Non tippers in this situation have joined a club but don't want to abide by the rules. Just tip them.
Do I expect people to do their job, and not have to tip? Of course! Tipping is such an outdated, patronising and condescending behaviour.

Personal service, well dressed and agreeable? Surely prerequisites of any public-facing job. Knowledgeable? Of course, but this is often lacking. Song and dance? No thanks, I don't like "theatre".

DickyC said:
You'll be telling me next you don't tip taxi drivers.
I don't. Why would I?

Edited by tannhauser on Tuesday 13th August 12:27

m_cozzy

505 posts

185 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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I was on an activity holiday with randomers last year. They were scottish. They thought it perfectly acceptable to round up a 316 euro bill to 320.

tannhauser

1,773 posts

216 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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petemurphy said:
easytiger123 said:
Jesus Christ there's some tight arses and miserable gits on here!

It's part of going out to any vaguely half-decent restaurant. You tip. It's almost always added to the bill in this country and unless the service is truly appalling (which has maybe happened on a handful of occasions in 35+yrs of eating out 2 to 3 times a week), I always pay it without a second thought and more often than not, especially if it's a regular haunt, I'll bung the waiter some extra cash on top of the tip. I cannot fking stand people who whine about tipping. And before anyone says anything, it has absolutely nothing to do with your own financial circumstances and absolutely everything to do with being cheap.

what utter nonsense
Completely. Why should you tip if you're on minimum wage yourself?

"Bung the waiter some extra cash on top of tip"? What an arse. It's people like you fueling this sense of entitlement in reward for mediocrity, and driving up the cost of eating out in a wider sense.

tannhauser

1,773 posts

216 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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keirik said:
Cotty said:
easytiger123 said:
Jesus Christ there's some tight arses and miserable gits on here!

It has got nothing to do with being tight. Put the price they want for the meal and service on the menu and people will choose to pay it or not. That way you take away the moral dilemma from customers who just want a nice meal.
Anytime anyone says it's not about the money... It's absolutely about the money
For me it's more about transparency and avoiding the usual awkwardness and horrible expectation - and the faux sincerity from waiting staff. I don't mind paying good money for decent food and attentive service. But I expect this when I'm eating out. Why would you expect any less?

Restaurants should charge accordingly and set their prices according to the standard of food and service they offer. Indeed I'd rather patronise an establishment that expressly accepts "no tips" as one of their USPs - surely there's a business idea here for someone? I'm sure some restaurants discourage tipping, similar to a number of more civilised, sensible or modest countries, like Japan.

Cotty said:
easytiger123 said:
Jesus Christ there's some tight arses and miserable gits on here!

It has got nothing to do with being tight. Put the price they want for the meal and service on the menu and people will choose to pay it or not. That way you take away the moral dilemma from customers who just want a nice meal.
Fully agree with this.

Olivera

7,197 posts

240 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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Tannhauser, you pop up on every single thread disccussing tipping in restaurants, so we established long ago that you are a skinflint, tighter-than-two-coats-of-paint ranting gammon on this subject.

~10% tip is the UK societal norm for tipping in a restaurant, so either pay that or stick to McDonalds or the chip shop.

tannhauser

1,773 posts

216 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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Olivera said:
Tannhauser, you pop up on every single thread disccussing tipping in restaurants, so we established long ago that you are a skinflint, tighter-than-two-coats-of-paint ranting gammon on this subject.

~10% tip is the UK societal norm for tipping in a restaurant, so either pay that or stick to McDonalds or the chip shop.
Get you snooping at my posting history. It's a ridiculous concept - I've worked NMW in a public facing but tipless job. There's no logic. Why tip in restaurants, but few other low paid public facing jobs?

I'll continue to eat out and not tip, apart from when I choose to do so, thank you very much.

sgrimshaw

7,335 posts

251 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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Olivera said:
~10% tip is the UK societal norm for tipping in a restaurant, so either pay that or stick to McDonalds or the chip shop.
Why would you not tip in McDonalds?

They deliver your meal to your table if required.

Talk about double standards.

Cotty

39,642 posts

285 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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sgrimshaw said:
Why would you not tip in McDonalds?

They deliver your meal to your table if required.

Talk about double standards.
I have not ordered food in Witherspoons for a while but if I remember you order and pay at the bar. You give them your table number and they bring you your food. I am assuming no tip as you pay the price on the menu before you get you food.

Edited by Cotty on Tuesday 13th August 13:08