waiter unhappy with tip
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InductionRoar said:
That is a very generous tip. Out of interest what wine did you order? I am always loathed to buy wine out because of the huge markups already added to the price. I am not expecting a bargain but it is nice not to be ripped off because Pierre the waiter tells you that you have good taste.
I didn't want to make a fuss so just paid the 12.5% tip that was automatically added to the bill.But in hindsight it pissed me off to pay that much for a bottle of wine I drank at the bar.
It was a 2011 Meursault "Les Virols" from Domaine Roulot
matrignano said:
I didn't want to make a fuss so just paid the 12.5% tip that was automatically added to the bill.
But in hindsight it pissed me off to pay that much for a bottle of wine I drank at the bar.
It was a 2011 Meursault "Les Virols" from Domaine Roulot
Very nice - all I can say is I hope you enjoyed it. But in hindsight it pissed me off to pay that much for a bottle of wine I drank at the bar.
It was a 2011 Meursault "Les Virols" from Domaine Roulot
I went out for a meal to celebrate a good friend's wedding the other night and ordered a glass of 2011 Gaja Barbaresco. This was also subject to a 12.5% tip along with the rest of the meal, which wouldn't have been so bad but it was served too warm. As it wasn't my night I didn't feel I could say anything, but it did grieve me to pay for a serving charge when it wasn't served correctly.
Robertj21a said:
Roman Rhodes said:
Yes, a mental suggestion equally as loony as the nutty idea that a waiter should just move to higher paying restaurant so that they don’t need tips.
Life is so easy outside of the real world!
The real world (which you appear to fail to recognise) has a wide range of people, and a wide range of jobs. In the UK at present we have very low unemployment and there are vacancies in a good number of different occupations. A waiter, cleaner, shop worker etc does not have to stay with the same employer, or in the same industry, if they are having to rely on tips.Life is so easy outside of the real world!
[That's the real world........]
Your applying a theory of the free market which doesn’t happen in the situation you’re commenting on.
Where do cleaners and shop workers receive tips? In your “real world”?
Roman Rhodes said:
Robertj21a said:
Roman Rhodes said:
Yes, a mental suggestion equally as loony as the nutty idea that a waiter should just move to higher paying restaurant so that they don’t need tips.
Life is so easy outside of the real world!
The real world (which you appear to fail to recognise) has a wide range of people, and a wide range of jobs. In the UK at present we have very low unemployment and there are vacancies in a good number of different occupations. A waiter, cleaner, shop worker etc does not have to stay with the same employer, or in the same industry, if they are having to rely on tips.Life is so easy outside of the real world!
[That's the real world........]
Your applying a theory of the free market which doesn’t happen in the situation you’re commenting on.
Where do cleaners and shop workers receive tips? In your “real world”?
Oh well, never mind
Terminator X said:
anonymous said:
[redacted]
Yep.TX.
It may be a myth. Few of us want to test it to see if is a myth or not.
Tip the guy. Be nice. Think of it as an investment.
with delivery it depends. if my food comes quick (sub 30min) then i tip maybe £1. 45min or more i don't. if the weather is rather crap, such as if it's cold or raining hard then ill give them £1-2. ill also sometimes just round up the price to the nearest £5. so on a £18 meal i might tell them to kepe the change.
DickyC said:
Terminator X said:
anonymous said:
[redacted]
Yep.TX.
It may be a myth. Few of us want to test it to see if is a myth or not.
Tip the guy. Be nice. Think of it as an investment.
Yet another tipping thread where the vast majority of people have obviously never worked in the hospitality industry. Doesn't matter; when I was waitering you could always tell a mile off who was unlikely to tip and who was. Don't want to tip? Fine you get the normal service; likely to tip? You get extra attention and nothing you ask for is any trouble. That's the way the game works. Wasn't uncommon for us to go home with 3-figure tips per night from the hotel I was working in. Good times.
That said chasing people out the door because they didn't tip enough is a dick move.
That said chasing people out the door because they didn't tip enough is a dick move.
Robertj21a said:
Roman Rhodes said:
Robertj21a said:
Roman Rhodes said:
Yes, a mental suggestion equally as loony as the nutty idea that a waiter should just move to higher paying restaurant so that they don’t need tips.
Life is so easy outside of the real world!
The real world (which you appear to fail to recognise) has a wide range of people, and a wide range of jobs. In the UK at present we have very low unemployment and there are vacancies in a good number of different occupations. A waiter, cleaner, shop worker etc does not have to stay with the same employer, or in the same industry, if they are having to rely on tips.Life is so easy outside of the real world!
[That's the real world........]
Your applying a theory of the free market which doesn’t happen in the situation you’re commenting on.
Where do cleaners and shop workers receive tips? In your “real world”?
Oh well, never mind
ks and have no evidence to back up your opinion.Oh well, never mind.
parabolica said:
Yet another tipping thread where the vast majority of people have obviously never worked in the hospitality industry. Doesn't matter; when I was waitering you could always tell a mile off who was unlikely to tip and who was. Don't want to tip? Fine you get the normal service; likely to tip? You get extra attention and nothing you ask for is any trouble. That's the way the game works. Wasn't uncommon for us to go home with 3-figure tips per night from the hotel I was working in. Good times.
That said chasing people out the door because they didn't tip enough is a dick move.
How did you tell??That said chasing people out the door because they didn't tip enough is a dick move.
Roman Rhodes said:
Robertj21a said:
Roman Rhodes said:
Robertj21a said:
Roman Rhodes said:
Yes, a mental suggestion equally as loony as the nutty idea that a waiter should just move to higher paying restaurant so that they don’t need tips.
Life is so easy outside of the real world!
The real world (which you appear to fail to recognise) has a wide range of people, and a wide range of jobs. In the UK at present we have very low unemployment and there are vacancies in a good number of different occupations. A waiter, cleaner, shop worker etc does not have to stay with the same employer, or in the same industry, if they are having to rely on tips.Life is so easy outside of the real world!
[That's the real world........]
Your applying a theory of the free market which doesn’t happen in the situation you’re commenting on.
Where do cleaners and shop workers receive tips? In your “real world”?
Oh well, never mind
ks and have no evidence to back up your opinion.Oh well, never mind.
GT03ROB said:
parabolica said:
Yet another tipping thread where the vast majority of people have obviously never worked in the hospitality industry. Doesn't matter; when I was waitering you could always tell a mile off who was unlikely to tip and who was. Don't want to tip? Fine you get the normal service; likely to tip? You get extra attention and nothing you ask for is any trouble. That's the way the game works. Wasn't uncommon for us to go home with 3-figure tips per night from the hotel I was working in. Good times.
That said chasing people out the door because they didn't tip enough is a dick move.
How did you tell??That said chasing people out the door because they didn't tip enough is a dick move.
I want a drink refil or some sauce? What else can you provide?
I find it very weird you judge people before they have tipped. Find yourself in a catch 22 where you assume someone won't tip but then they don't because you've been nothing special.
Terminator X said:
You should eat at home, bellend attitude.
TX.
I'm guessing your a waiter ? TX.
Do you tip everyone ten percent minimum?
Tipping is , and always should be a personal choice , and people shouldn't judge others on their choice of doling out their money . If I worked in your house would you tip me ten per cent for carrying my tools and materials into your house , or would you question why my invoice had increased by ten percent from my original quote when I'd finished the work ?
paulwirral said:
I'm guessing your a waiter ?
Do you tip everyone ten percent minimum?
Tipping is , and always should be a personal choice , and people shouldn't judge others on their choice of doling out their money . If I worked in your house would you tip me ten per cent for carrying my tools and materials into your house , or would you question why my invoice had increased by ten percent from my original quote when I'd finished the work ?
do you call everyone that doesnt a bellend ?Do you tip everyone ten percent minimum?
Tipping is , and always should be a personal choice , and people shouldn't judge others on their choice of doling out their money . If I worked in your house would you tip me ten per cent for carrying my tools and materials into your house , or would you question why my invoice had increased by ten percent from my original quote when I'd finished the work ?
xjay1337 said:
GT03ROB said:
parabolica said:
Yet another tipping thread where the vast majority of people have obviously never worked in the hospitality industry. Doesn't matter; when I was waitering you could always tell a mile off who was unlikely to tip and who was. Don't want to tip? Fine you get the normal service; likely to tip? You get extra attention and nothing you ask for is any trouble. That's the way the game works. Wasn't uncommon for us to go home with 3-figure tips per night from the hotel I was working in. Good times.
That said chasing people out the door because they didn't tip enough is a dick move.
How did you tell??That said chasing people out the door because they didn't tip enough is a dick move.
I want a drink refil or some sauce? What else can you provide?
I find it very weird you judge people before they have tipped. Find yourself in a catch 22 where you assume someone won't tip but then they don't because you've been nothing special.
@xjay1337: prime example is responding to special requests from the customer, i.e. them asking for something extra or done a different way which would take you more time to complete than normal. That might seem a bit banal written here, but when you're in the midst of a service with 100+ people to attend to, you need to ration out your time to each table and if you get asked to do something that will take 5 minutes to do instead of 2, you're more likely to be willing to accept the request if it's for a decent guest.
There are other things of course; the banter (if they're up for it; American tourists love a bit of scottish patter), recommendations (especially ports, whisky, wines etc), suggestions for additions to their courses, etc. When I was working at the hotel, tourists especially would be appreciative of advice and info about nearby attractions/walks/activities etc. Sometimes it was a short game - I.e. you'd see a tip at the end of the night; sometimes with the tourists you played the long game in the hope of getting a sizable tip at the end of their stay. Although I will admit you were more likely to see this going on at a 4 or 5 star hotel rather than your local travel inn.
I always found it was exceptional service that got tipped, and it's the same theory I use today sitting on the other side of the table.
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