waiter unhappy with tip
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Tip is discretionary imo. If the waiter came chasing me down complaining I tell him to f off and never go back to that restaurant. If it was poised in the format of a question as to what the problem was, them I would point out that his opportunity to ask that was all the way through the meal. If he hadn't asked then that is his answer.
tannhauser said:
roadsmash said:
I always tip (generously), providing its deserved.
I think it’s bullst, but I still do it.
Why then?I think it’s bullst, but I still do it.
It’s just another Americanism that we have adopted over here in the U.K. Totally unnecessary as all our waiting staff are paid by the hour/salaried.
I’m not a tight arse, nor do I want to be perceived as one...
So I tip.
keirik said:
Title needs changing to "Tight git gets pissed off when someone highlights what he is"
£250 means a few people, so a fair bit of work to do for the waiter, but hey fk him, your mate only left a tenner because it shows who's more important and he wanted the waiter to feel subservient
there are some real tts in the world nowadays
How is it a fair bit of work? He's being paid to carry glasses or plates. £250 means a few people, so a fair bit of work to do for the waiter, but hey fk him, your mate only left a tenner because it shows who's more important and he wanted the waiter to feel subservient
there are some real tts in the world nowadays
A tip should be a bonus NOT expected. It's also a fast way to lose customers. Three business owner should appreciate that the waiter is the face of his/her business and pay them.
hyphen said:
It's spreading.
My haircut place has a 'would you like to add a tip, yes/no' option now on the card machine. tts. It's around £25 for a haircut there, and they have the cheek to want more!
Perhaps stop giving offering free beers/PlayStation and so on, and lower your overheads. (Most people say no to the first, and playstation gathers dust as most people are all on their phones).
25 quid?My haircut place has a 'would you like to add a tip, yes/no' option now on the card machine. tts. It's around £25 for a haircut there, and they have the cheek to want more!
Perhaps stop giving offering free beers/PlayStation and so on, and lower your overheads. (Most people say no to the first, and playstation gathers dust as most people are all on their phones).
Come out into leafy Surrey, it's 9 pounds here!
I always tip my barber because I really enjoy the experience of having my beard trimmed and hair cut by him. He's become a friend over the years and I support his mens' mental health sessions and help the homeless projects he organises.
We seldom eat out because there aren't many places we would want to eat in locally but I'll tip a waiter/waitress a fiver (not add it to the bill) if they've been exceptionally good.
We seldom eat out because there aren't many places we would want to eat in locally but I'll tip a waiter/waitress a fiver (not add it to the bill) if they've been exceptionally good.
markcoznottz said:
Yes, now that's how you deal with an ungrateful waiter, those kind of scenes where things get out of hand were always brilliant.On tipping in the UK, I'm not overly happy about it. Where do you draw the line, should we offer to tip everyone for just doing their job?? Do you tip someone in Greggs , Subway or Burger King just because they got your bloody order right.
Tipping just isn't British to me, the yanks do it as their servers rely on it and generally make sure service is good in return but here we pay our servers better and tip out of guilt/shame for being able to afford a meal out.
I hate that tips are expected in some places yet other not expected and far more gratefully recieved.
I think we should just pay the right orice for the food that the resturant workers get paid a proper wage.
I hate that tips are expected in some places yet other not expected and far more gratefully recieved.
I think we should just pay the right orice for the food that the resturant workers get paid a proper wage.
hyphen said:
Nickbrapp said:
Tipping is stupid, there is no other industry where you go in, and then pay more for something that should be included in the price
It's spreading. My haircut place has a 'would you like to add a tip, yes/no' option now on the card machine. tts. It's around £25 for a haircut there, and they have the cheek to want more!
Perhaps stop giving offering free beers/PlayStation and so on, and lower your overheads. (Most people say no to the first, and playstation gathers dust as most people are all on their phones).
Where on earth do you live to think that reasonable?
hyphen said:
It's spreading.
My haircut place has a 'would you like to add a tip, yes/no' option now on the card machine. tts. It's around £25 for a haircut there, and they have the cheek to want more!
Perhaps stop giving offering free beers/PlayStation and so on, and lower your overheads. (Most people say no to the first, and playstation gathers dust as most people are all on their phones).
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wahl-Vogue-Mains-Clipper-Satin/dp/B000ICLLPS/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_364_img_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=918ZJFH6S58Z1BNF8AMVMy haircut place has a 'would you like to add a tip, yes/no' option now on the card machine. tts. It's around £25 for a haircut there, and they have the cheek to want more!
Perhaps stop giving offering free beers/PlayStation and so on, and lower your overheads. (Most people say no to the first, and playstation gathers dust as most people are all on their phones).
HTH
roadsmash said:
tannhauser said:
roadsmash said:
I always tip (generously), providing its deserved.
I think it’s bullst, but I still do it.
Why then?I think it’s bullst, but I still do it.
It’s just another Americanism that we have adopted over here in the U.K. Totally unnecessary as all our waiting staff are paid by the hour/salaried.
I’m not a tight arse, nor do I want to be perceived as one...
So I tip.
A service charge will not go directly to the individual server it will go into a tronc which is administered and will be subject to taxation. More importantly it will be shared between staff normally starting with the head chef and restaurant manager then cooks, bar and waiting staff and possibly to the kitchen porters.
The server may see £1.50 of a £10 tip if lucky. Thats why you can see head chef jobs stating £5K "bonus" etc
The server may see £1.50 of a £10 tip if lucky. Thats why you can see head chef jobs stating £5K "bonus" etc
MiniMan64 said:
hyphen said:
Nickbrapp said:
Tipping is stupid, there is no other industry where you go in, and then pay more for something that should be included in the price
It's spreading. My haircut place has a 'would you like to add a tip, yes/no' option now on the card machine. tts. It's around £25 for a haircut there, and they have the cheek to want more!
Perhaps stop giving offering free beers/PlayStation and so on, and lower your overheads. (Most people say no to the first, and playstation gathers dust as most people are all on their phones).
Where on earth do you live to think that reasonable?
His profile may possibly give you a clue.
Macneil said:
My colleague was out recently and his party spent £250 in a restaurant in a town full of flashy eateries. The service charge was added to the bill, 10 or 12.5 percent I think. He asked for it to be removed and said he would leave a tip in cash. The waiter removed it and my mate left £10 cash. As he was leaving the restaurant, the waiter accosted him, and asked him why he had only left £10. So predictably he told the guy if he didn't want it would he mind handing it back please?
I think he was a bit tight, I'd have probably left £20, and in fact a couple of weeks ago in a different restaurant our waiter asked before billing if we had any objection to a service charge being added to the bill, and were we happy with the service.
Two completely different attitudes, and the latter resulting in a more generous tip.
What city was the resturant in? I think he was a bit tight, I'd have probably left £20, and in fact a couple of weeks ago in a different restaurant our waiter asked before billing if we had any objection to a service charge being added to the bill, and were we happy with the service.
Two completely different attitudes, and the latter resulting in a more generous tip.
I only ever tip if the service was excellent. If it was OK then I don't tip because - news flash - tipping is an incentive. And I say that as someone who worked behind a bar for 3 years while I went to college. If you're going in to a job expecting a tip then you're in the wrong job really.
I don't tip any more... I mean, I don't pay the woman in Sainsburys an extra 10% of the value of the loaf of bread shes selling me, so why should I pay a pub an extra 10% for the food im buying from them? If they are so confident that the food and service is worth it, just put up the prices 10% across the board and then say "we don't accept tips", and see how that goes for them.
Ultimately, the waiter is getting *at least* the same minimum wage as lots of other minimum wage workers across the country, so im not sure why they deserve several quid extra for carrying my food all the way from the kitchen to my table. I mean, i'll happily go and collect it myself if its such a burden.
Hilariously, theres a pub nearby that we really like. Went one evening a while back and bought drinks from the bar, put them on a tab, and carried said drinks to our table. When the bill came, they had added 10% service to the entire bill. So, Im supposed to pay them for the fact I carried my own drinks?! Nope. Left enough cash to cover the food and drink consumed.
Then we went back there last sunday, and sat in the garden. Bought and paid for meal and drinks at the bar, and they brought the meals out - about 2 or 3 times the distance they would bring them to the "restaurant" section where they charge for service.
It literally makes no sense, and the majority of people just tip out of peer pressure and social convention.
Ultimately, the waiter is getting *at least* the same minimum wage as lots of other minimum wage workers across the country, so im not sure why they deserve several quid extra for carrying my food all the way from the kitchen to my table. I mean, i'll happily go and collect it myself if its such a burden.
Hilariously, theres a pub nearby that we really like. Went one evening a while back and bought drinks from the bar, put them on a tab, and carried said drinks to our table. When the bill came, they had added 10% service to the entire bill. So, Im supposed to pay them for the fact I carried my own drinks?! Nope. Left enough cash to cover the food and drink consumed.
Then we went back there last sunday, and sat in the garden. Bought and paid for meal and drinks at the bar, and they brought the meals out - about 2 or 3 times the distance they would bring them to the "restaurant" section where they charge for service.
It literally makes no sense, and the majority of people just tip out of peer pressure and social convention.
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