waiter unhappy with tip

[Mr Roper]

What if the diners are on minimum wage. Should they get 12% off their bill as a thank you?

Mind Blown.

[Cotty]

Terminator X said:

Because it depends on "good service" hence discretionary. Leave nowt if poorly served but if all was ok then tip them 10%.

But why pay one person more than another just because the food is more expensive in one restaurant than another.

ps you don't need to sign off you posts, as your name is displayed next to it.

[Robertj21a]

Terminator X said:

paulwirral said:

I leave 5% ,if it's a problem I'll gladly take it back . I detest the already added discretionary ten per cent tip, I can work all day and I'd get laughed off the job if I added ten per cent to my price just for carrying my gear into someone's house

You should eat at home, bellend attitude.

TX.

It's the attitude of being *expected* to tip, even for basic service, that keeps many people at home. Why should I tip someone who is only doing their basic job ?

[Mort7]

Mrs M and I went to a chain pub for lunch with a couple of friends (can't remember where or which chain I'm afraid), had a nice meal and friendly service. I went up to the bar to pay as we were leaving and offered to add a tip, only to be told that all tips had to be sent to head office, and they never see any of it, so thanks for the offer, but please keep the tip and have a nice day!

I don't understand why eating establishments can't pay staff a decent wage, add that to the actual cost of the food and preparation, add a profit margin, charge that price with no service charge, and make it clear that tips are not expected. You'd still have the option to tip if you felt the service was exceptional, but you’d avoid all the awkwardness, which would make for a much more pleasant experience.

This, I believe, is the way things work in Australia. http://www.whototip.net/tipping-in-australia

[Silverage]

We’re going to Florida next week and will be eating out a lot and the tipping over there really gets to me. Apparently they’re at the stage now when the bill comes there is a handy ready reckoner at the bottom with 15% 18% and 20% tips already worked out for you.

If they just included the 15% or whatever it is they expect in the menu price I wouldn’t mind at all, rather than all this hiding behind making out it is for good service. I always fancy trying telling them at the start that I won’t be tipping and I’ll be happy with the standard service, thanks, just to see what that would look like.

[sc0tt]

I eat out maybe once or twice a month. If the service is standard, I.e the food is brought to my table then the server won’t get a tip because when I go to a restaurant I expect that level of service.

If I am in a restaurant and have good service, I.e the waiter is attentive, not too over the top etc then i’ll leave 10%.

If a waiter questioned my tip I’d have no issue asking for it back.

[markcoznottz]

Silverage said:

We’re going to Florida next week and will be eating out a lot and the tipping over there really gets to me. Apparently they’re at the stage now when the bill comes there is a handy ready reckoner at the bottom with 15% 18% and 20% tips already worked out for you.

If they just included the 15% or whatever it is they expect in the menu price I wouldn’t mind at all, rather than all this hiding behind making out it is for good service. I always fancy trying telling them at the start that I won’t be tipping and I’ll be happy with the standard service, thanks, just to see what that would look like.

I don't envy you. Can see why it stresses people out. So bloody complicated.


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[anonymous-user]

keirik said:

Title needs changing to "Tight git gets pissed off when someone highlights what he is"

£250 means a few people, so a fair bit of work to do for the waiter, but hey fk him, your mate only left a tenner because it shows who's more important and he wanted the waiter to feel subservient

there are some real tts in the world nowadays

Spot on. The number of people posting here being amazed that other service providers (eg hairdressers) have always relied on tips too speaks volumes about the self-centred bubbles they live in.

[tannhauser]

Terminator X said:

paulwirral said:

I leave 5% ,if it's a problem I'll gladly take it back . I detest the already added discretionary ten per cent tip, I can work all day and I'd get laughed off the job if I added ten per cent to my price just for carrying my gear into someone's house

You should eat at home, bellend attitude.

TX.

Not a bellend attitude at all. Eating out is so expensive now - without the ridiculous expectation of tips. If everyone "stayed at home" there'd be no one eating out, and no one paying their wages (to do their job).

[Davos123]

Silverage said:

We’re going to Florida next week and will be eating out a lot and the tipping over there really gets to me. Apparently they’re at the stage now when the bill comes there is a handy ready reckoner at the bottom with 15% 18% and 20% tips already worked out for you.

If they just included the 15% or whatever it is they expect in the menu price I wouldn’t mind at all, rather than all this hiding behind making out it is for good service. I always fancy trying telling them at the start that I won’t be tipping and I’ll be happy with the standard service, thanks, just to see what that would look like.

I moved to Canada and it's the same here. 18% is often the smallest option.

It's just annoying when you look at a menu because you have to remember you're going to pay 11% tax on top of those prices, then another 18% on top of the after-tax amount.

[Edible Roadkill]

Silverage said:

We’re going to Florida next week and will be eating out a lot and the tipping over there really gets to me. Apparently they’re at the stage now when the bill comes there is a handy ready reckoner at the bottom with 15% 18% and 20% tips already worked out for you.

If they just included the 15% or whatever it is they expect in the menu price I wouldn’t mind at all, rather than all this hiding behind making out it is for good service. I always fancy trying telling them at the start that I won’t be tipping and I’ll be happy with the standard service, thanks, just to see what that would look like.

Just been last month and I thought the service there was crap compared to back into the UK. Grudged the 15% tip on many occasions. That’s if they could seat you in the restaurant which at times was nearly empty with only 1-2 waitresses working.

Amount of times we were sat squashed up in the doorway with 3 tired young kids because they couldn’t seat us was shocking!

I’d prefer the restaurant just paid proper wage and added it to the bill.

[RDMcG]

Davos123 said:

I moved to Canada and it's the same here. 18% is often the smallest option.

It's just annoying when you look at a menu because you have to remember you're going to pay 11% tax on top of those prices, then another 18% on top of the after-tax amount.

Standard in Canada and the US and nobody( apart from British people apparently) minds. If there is bad service, fair enough- leave no tip. Waiters are taxed here on an assumed amount of tipping even if they do not actually receive that much, so not tipping could actually cost them money if enough people are tightwads.

I use Uber all the time instead of regular taxis, and the system rates the driver, and the passenger. It is solely on credit card and you tip subsequently. Of course non-tippers end up with a poor rating by the drivers, and poorly-rated people do not get their cars so quickly. Perfect balance here. Cheaper fare as you don't tip, worse service if you don't tip. Seems like a fair deal to me.

[petemurphy]

Cotty said:

Why not just charge 10% more and let people chose whether to eat there or not.

this

conversely if people are saying cheapskate to 10% wheres their limit. 100% or you're all cheapskates ffs..

[Davos123]

RDMcG said:

Standard in Canada and the US and nobody( apart from British people apparently) minds..

Definitely not true. Plenty of Canadians think it's a ridiculous culture.

[Cotty]

Why Tipping Should Be Banned - Adam Ruins Everything

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[Sheepshanks]

Mr Roper said:

What if the diners are on minimum wage. Should they get 12% off their bill as a thank you?

Mind Blown.

I used to work for someone who, if he took a group of us out for a Chinese or an Indian, would always ask for a discount when he booked.

[petemurphy]

Mr Roper said:

What if the diners are on minimum wage. Should they get 12% off their bill as a thank you?

Mind Blown.

ha!

[LosingGrip]

Nickbrapp said:

Tipping is stupid, there is no other industry where you go in, and then pay more for something that should be included in the price

No one goes into Tesco and then tips the woman on the till because she went out of her way to get you some bags, it’s all part of the job!

I bet no one tips the man in the shell garage when they pump the fuel for you

How about tipping the man who carried your heavy slabs from B&Q to the car?

You say that about Teaco...i used to get tips when i was a delivery driver there! Honestly no idea why. Paid reasonably well for the job.

I didn't complain though. Did once refuse when someone elderly tried to give me £20 though! Felt uneasy taking that.

I rarely tip. Barbers sometimes if im paying cash. Went out for my leaving drinks last month and tipped £15 for the meal. Bill came to £140ish, but they always give fantastic service when I go there (twice a month normally).

I'd be fuming if the waiter said that to me though!

[Terminator X]

Cotty said:

But why pay one person more than another just because the food is more expensive in one restaurant than another.

ps you don't need to sign off you posts, as your name is displayed next to it.

Cheers.

TX.

[DickyC]

Tipping started in Britain and was well established by the 17th Century.

Now it's part of the occasion. It's theatre. If a place expects you to tip and you don't want to, go somewhere else; McDonald's or somewhere.

Sake.