Coffee. Grinder and Cafetiere or Pods in a machine

Coffee. Grinder and Cafetiere or Pods in a machine

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Turn7

23,608 posts

221 months

Monday 15th February 2021
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Thebaggers said:
Turn7 said:
Dont forget Beans that have been rolled on the thighs of a Thai virgin at 63 degrees for 4 minutes....... wink
The Thai virgin has a serious backlog. He'll get to it as soon as possible and promises to wash his inner thigh thoroughly, he tends to build up a fair sweat in the regular marathon warcraft sessions.
hehe

paralla

3,535 posts

135 months

Monday 15th February 2021
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Cheap, over-roasted, stale beans are available at discount supermarkets for those that prefer them.

Turn7

23,608 posts

221 months

Monday 15th February 2021
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paralla said:
Cheap, over-roasted, stale beans are available at discount supermarkets for those that prefer them.
I was joshing.....chill.

Turn7

23,608 posts

221 months

Monday 15th February 2021
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Robbie, I find it interesting that it was you that started the Nespresso thread.

Id be interested to know your journey from Pods to almost PH Coffee jedi......

Volvolover

2,036 posts

41 months

Monday 15th February 2021
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Turn7 said:
Robbie, I find it interesting that it was you that started the Nespresso thread.

Id be interested to know your journey from Pods to almost PH Coffee jedi......
Makes me wonder where I’ll end up after starting this one lol

RobbieTheTruth

1,876 posts

119 months

Monday 15th February 2021
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Turn7 said:
Robbie, I find it interesting that it was you that started the Nespresso thread.

Id be interested to know your journey from Pods to almost PH Coffee jedi......
In brief - didn't realise I liked coffee so much until I went to a third wave place. Discussed the coffee with them at the shop an they explaned the difference between light roasts/dark roasts etc.

Bought a Nespresso to upgrade from Nescafe. Still have it,still use it in the office.

Upgraded to Bean to Cup presuming it was the holy grail, not realising it's barely an upgrade from Nespresso.

Kept going from there.

Flibble

6,475 posts

181 months

Monday 15th February 2021
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RobbieTheTruth said:
A PID will help massively, but I do coffee then milk.

Drop a shot of coffee into a hot cup, then flick the steam on. Takes about 20 seconds to get to 140.
I really am going to have to get a pid aren't I? hehe

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64 posts

60 months

Tuesday 16th February 2021
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New machine arrived.

I used a whole bag of beans to work out how to get something approaching 18g of ground coffee into 36g of liquid. And not in 2 seconds, or 2 minutes.

Last cup out of the bag of beans was just about right. At least in time / weight. Still tasted like battery acid drinking it neat. But after I cleaned the room up from when I exploded a jug of steamed milk all over the place, it made a very passable, small, not-quite flat white.

More tomorrow when I get some more beans delivered.

Still many variables to tweak - not least my own expectation of what good coffee should actually taste like. My evil mixture of the slops of the 2 second, 2 minute, and everything in between extractions was not too bad with some milk. Similar to Nespresso. So probably not worth stressing over this too much until / unless I can start to tell the difference.

36g of coffee is not a lot. Although quite concentrated (especially the 2 minute one), I think I may still need to make 2 or 3 of them in one go if I want a big mug. Or maybe I need to just have more smaller cups. I'll work that out over the next day or two.

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64 posts

60 months

Tuesday 16th February 2021
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I think the key is knowing your 9 times table:
  • 2 x 9 = 18 seconds running the grinder
  • 2 x 9 = 18g of coffee
  • 3 x 9 = 27 seconds making the coffee
  • 4 x 9 = 36g of espresso
  • 1 x 9 = the number of shots needed to make a decent sized mug of coffee *
* this may be a slight exaggeration

RobbieTheTruth

1,876 posts

119 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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1 said:
New machine arrived.

I used a whole bag of beans to work out how to get something approaching 18g of ground coffee into 36g of liquid. And not in 2 seconds, or 2 minutes.

Last cup out of the bag of beans was just about right. At least in time / weight. Still tasted like battery acid drinking it neat. But after I cleaned the room up from when I exploded a jug of steamed milk all over the place, it made a very passable, small, not-quite flat white.

More tomorrow when I get some more beans delivered.

Still many variables to tweak - not least my own expectation of what good coffee should actually taste like. My evil mixture of the slops of the 2 second, 2 minute, and everything in between extractions was not too bad with some milk. Similar to Nespresso. So probably not worth stressing over this too much until / unless I can start to tell the difference.

36g of coffee is not a lot. Although quite concentrated (especially the 2 minute one), I think I may still need to make 2 or 3 of them in one go if I want a big mug. Or maybe I need to just have more smaller cups. I'll work that out over the next day or two.
Haha, glad you got it!!

It should only be taking 2-3 goes to get 36g of liquid in 30 seconds.

Grind right in the middle of the grinders suggested Espresso setting. It will likely run a few seconds fast or slow. If it's fast, go a bit finer, if it's slow, go a bit courser?

Second attempt should only be a couple of seconds out, which is more than fine to drink.

Third attempt should be bang on?

AlexS

1,551 posts

232 months

Thursday 18th February 2021
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Having read through this thread with interest I am now looking at upping my coffee game, though I'm not sure the wallet agrees.

As I enjoy both espresso and a longer pour over style coffee is there a grinder that doesn't cost a fortune (up to Niche Zero pricing) that is suitable for both types of grind? The Wlifa Uniform seems to have the range to do this but currently doesn't seem to be available anywhere. The Niche does go up to this but appears to need additional markings added to the sizing ring, as the pre printed markings don't actually go coarse enough. The Niche does seem excellent though and I may well end up putting down for one and adding some additional markings.

LordGrover

33,543 posts

212 months

Thursday 18th February 2021
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Maybe not in the same league, but I'm tempted by the Sage Dose Control Pro Grinder.
I only use my Technivorm Moccapot and a Clever Dripper so not needed for espresso, but I gather it's a decent budget espresso grinder.

SamR380

725 posts

120 months

Thursday 18th February 2021
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Depending on how much coffee you drink, a good hand grinder might be suitable. I'm not sure if I should recommend the James Hoffman YouTube channel, as it's a bit of a rabbit hole, but it is quite informative.

AlexS

1,551 posts

232 months

Thursday 18th February 2021
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Too late for that, I've already found the James Hoffman channel. Much of an evening has been wasted watching various techniques and reviews.

ayedubya

225 posts

45 months

Thursday 18th February 2021
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This thread has made me want to get a modded Gaggia Classic and save up for a decent grinder. have already messaged FairRecycler biggrin

Volvolover

2,036 posts

41 months

Thursday 18th February 2021
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SamR380 said:
, as it's a bit of a rabbit hole, but it is quite informative.
You can say that again


I was impressed with his take on the lelit anna


I still think given i'm drinking milk based coffee drinks that you need to spend a lot to beat a good grinder, a mocha pot and a steamer

RobbieTheTruth

1,876 posts

119 months

Thursday 18th February 2021
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Volvolover said:
SamR380 said:
, as it's a bit of a rabbit hole, but it is quite informative.
You can say that again


I was impressed with his take on the lelit anna


I still think given i'm drinking milk based coffee drinks that you need to spend a lot to beat a good grinder, a mocha pot and a steamer
You can get great results out of a Moka pot if you play with the grind a bit, and use boiling water in the chamber. I get amazing coffee out of mine

RobbieTheTruth

1,876 posts

119 months

Thursday 18th February 2021
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AlexS said:
Having read through this thread with interest I am now looking at upping my coffee game, though I'm not sure the wallet agrees.

As I enjoy both espresso and a longer pour over style coffee is there a grinder that doesn't cost a fortune (up to Niche Zero pricing) that is suitable for both types of grind? The Wlifa Uniform seems to have the range to do this but currently doesn't seem to be available anywhere. The Niche does go up to this but appears to need additional markings added to the sizing ring, as the pre printed markings don't actually go coarse enough. The Niche does seem excellent though and I may well end up putting down for one and adding some additional markings.
How about the Eureka Mignon Specilaita?

I haven't had pour over for a long time, but I was able to do it at the suggested course setting of the niche, rather than needing any custom markings.

Flibble

6,475 posts

181 months

Sunday 21st February 2021
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Tried Rave Fudge today. Wow, it's excellent, really drinkable. Also I have made a purchase, you lot are going to cost me a fortune. hehe


RobbieTheTruth

1,876 posts

119 months

Sunday 21st February 2021
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Flibble said:
Tried Rave Fudge today. Wow, it's excellent, really drinkable. Also I have made a purchase, you lot are going to cost me a fortune. hehe

Congrats on the PID!

I've got Rave Fudge too. I find it ok for Espresso and exceptional in the Mokka pot!