White Wine appreciation & pictures thread
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Carl_Manchester said:
Couldn't find a thread dedicated to one of my best pals.....white wine.
I will kick off with a couple of mid-range whites that I picked up today.
I have had the Chablis before, the stelly is a new one to me but I have high hopes for it and I will be drinking it this evening.
Where did you get the Collett from? I’ve visited their vineyard a couple of times over the years and brought a good few cases home. Never seen it on sale in the UK though so would love to find a source as there’s only one bottle left of their delightful butteaux in the cellar.I will kick off with a couple of mid-range whites that I picked up today.
I have had the Chablis before, the stelly is a new one to me but I have high hopes for it and I will be drinking it this evening.
I'm a big fan of English Whites and after seeing it featured on a recent Hairy Bikers episode I ordered a case of wine from Laurel Vines in North Yorkshire (the Angevine one):
https://laurel-vines.co.uk/
It's really very good and also extremely reasonable at £9 a bottle - reminds me of Sancerre
https://laurel-vines.co.uk/
It's really very good and also extremely reasonable at £9 a bottle - reminds me of Sancerre
Carl_Manchester said:
Couldn't find a thread dedicated to one of my best pals.....white wine.
I will kick off with a couple of mid-range whites that I picked up today.
I have had the Chablis before, the stelly is a new one to me but I have high hopes for it and I will be drinking it this evening.
I'm not sure describing Premier Cru Chablis as mid-range is entirely accurate. I have only had J.Collet at source (and the Hostellerie De Clos for that matter) but Prem Cru Chablis its getting pricey these days £25 + everywhere I buy these days.I will kick off with a couple of mid-range whites that I picked up today.
I have had the Chablis before, the stelly is a new one to me but I have high hopes for it and I will be drinking it this evening.
But re; the South African Chenin - Loving Tesco's Bellingham old Vine Chenin Blanc which at £11 is frankly stupendous value.
And although I've not tried the one mentioned above , I've never had a Petit Chablis that didn't make we want to spend a few more quid on at least a village Chab.
Sadly, the upper price tier is now £50+ even from the specialists. As with anything, a well chosen £25 bottle of white will knock your socks off and £50 is diminishing returns 
I am too afraid to get into that section of the shop but if I become weak and do pick up a couple out of that section I will review here.
I am too afraid to get into that section of the shop but if I become weak and do pick up a couple out of that section I will review here.
Carl_Manchester said:
Sadly, the upper price tier is now £50+ even from the specialists. As with anything, a well chosen £25 bottle of white will knock your socks off and £50 is diminishing returns
Depends on which region you’re buying from. A decent GC Riesling with some age on it, or some of the top white Rhône’s will cost much less than their Burgundian peers and can be really special, but will be in the £50+ bracket. There’s no argument though that there are indeed some good wines sub £25. Got through a couple of cases of Catena Alta Historic Rows Chardonnay in the past year or so, which went down well with everyone who drank it.
Most recent surprise, Ogier’s Viognier de Rosine (about £15). The ‘19 seems to be sold out but plan to pick up some ‘20’s (both great years in the Rhone). Should have bought more than 6 of them.
In the glass right now, 2005 Doisy Vedrines (Sauternes) as a midweek treat. Not at the level of the top wines from that vintage but a solid effort and a good way to end the day.
Carl_Manchester said:
Sadly, the upper price tier is now £50+ even from the specialists. As with anything, a well chosen £25 bottle of white will knock your socks off and £50 is diminishing returns
I am too afraid to get into that section of the shop but if I become weak and do pick up a couple out of that section I will review here.
I live a few miles from Stevenage so a visit to The Wine Society Cellar always a treat. and a bit of bottle fondling (ooh err) in the vintage room. Always some amazing bottles in there but special occasion stuff only for me these days.I am too afraid to get into that section of the shop but if I become weak and do pick up a couple out of that section I will review here.
Agree about the Rhone ,and the Languedoc as well, offering proper value.
But I'd say Spain and South Africa are where the real bargains are these days
Edited by Dblue on Friday 13th May 09:48
Rarely go north of £20 on white wine but make an exception for Domaine de la Bongran Viré-Clessé.
I find it massive and complex with everything I want from a big white Burgundy at not too stratospheric price
Like your style
I find it massive and complex with everything I want from a big white Burgundy at not too stratospheric price
LooneyTunes said:
Got through a couple of cases of Catena Alta Historic Rows Chardonnay in the past year or so, which went down well with everyone who drank it.
Most recent surprise, Ogier’s Viognier de Rosine (about £15). The ‘19 seems to be sold out but plan to pick up some ‘20’s (both great years in the Rhone). Should have bought more than 6 of them.
Thanks for these recommendations will check them outMost recent surprise, Ogier’s Viognier de Rosine (about £15). The ‘19 seems to be sold out but plan to pick up some ‘20’s (both great years in the Rhone). Should have bought more than 6 of them.
LooneyTunes said:
In the glass right now, 2005 Doisy Vedrines (Sauternes) as a midweek treat. Not at the level of the top wines from that vintage but a solid effort and a good way to end the day.
Like your style
After many years of only drinking red I have finally started enjoying white wine. Still can't get on with Sauvignon Blanc or Semillon in table wines but love them in Sauternes.
The best white I have had so far is a 2017 Catena Zapata White Bones. Difficult to get now but I currently have a 2019 White Stones and White Bones cellaring and will buy a couple every year upon release for special occasions.
The best sub £20 bottle I have tried is a 2018 Oremus Mandolás Furmint. Tokaj is probably the most underrated white wine region in the world - along with Jerez.
The best white I have had so far is a 2017 Catena Zapata White Bones. Difficult to get now but I currently have a 2019 White Stones and White Bones cellaring and will buy a couple every year upon release for special occasions.
The best sub £20 bottle I have tried is a 2018 Oremus Mandolás Furmint. Tokaj is probably the most underrated white wine region in the world - along with Jerez.
InductionRoar said:
After many years of only drinking red I have finally started enjoying white wine. Still can't get on with Sauvignon Blanc or Semillon in table wines but love them in Sauternes.
The best white I have had so far is a 2017 Catena Zapata White Bones. Difficult to get now but I currently have a 2019 White Stones and White Bones cellaring and will buy a couple every year upon release for special occasions.
The best sub 20 bottle I have tried is a 2018 Oremus Mandol s Furmint. Tokaj is probably the most underrated white wine region in the world - along with Jerez.
Nice! I have some of each of those too. Their reds are pretty good as well. The best white I have had so far is a 2017 Catena Zapata White Bones. Difficult to get now but I currently have a 2019 White Stones and White Bones cellaring and will buy a couple every year upon release for special occasions.
The best sub 20 bottle I have tried is a 2018 Oremus Mandol s Furmint. Tokaj is probably the most underrated white wine region in the world - along with Jerez.
If you’re into Sauternes, do you also dabble with the off drys from Alsace? I rather enjoyed a bottle of Trimbach’s Gewürztraminer “Cuvee des Seigneurs de Ribeaupierre” (2015) over the weekend. Probably only do half a case or so of Gewurtz or Riesling each year but find them perfect in the garden. Trouble is that they tend to be hard to find other than when first released.
Personally not a fan of NZ Sauv Blanc (will sometimes make an exception for Greywacke) but love the odd Pouilly-Fumé. If your only real experience is with the new world ones, perhaps give a french one a try?
LooneyTunes said:
Nice! I have some of each of those too. Their reds are pretty good as well.
If you’re into Sauternes, do you also dabble with the off drys from Alsace? I rather enjoyed a bottle of Trimbach’s Gew rztraminer “Cuvee des Seigneurs de Ribeaupierre” (2015) over the weekend. Probably only do half a case or so of Gewurtz or Riesling each year but find them perfect in the garden. Trouble is that they tend to be hard to find other than when first released.
Personally not a fan of NZ Sauv Blanc (will sometimes make an exception for Greywacke) but love the odd Pouilly-Fum . If your only real experience is with the new world ones, perhaps give a french one a try?
It's the quality of the Catena reds which made me take note of their whites and opened a whole new avenue of discovery - prior to that the only dry whites I consistently enjoyed were Champagnes. If you like Catena Zapata I would recommend Bodegas Aleanna, which is owned by Adrianna Catena and whose wines are wonderful.If you’re into Sauternes, do you also dabble with the off drys from Alsace? I rather enjoyed a bottle of Trimbach’s Gew rztraminer “Cuvee des Seigneurs de Ribeaupierre” (2015) over the weekend. Probably only do half a case or so of Gewurtz or Riesling each year but find them perfect in the garden. Trouble is that they tend to be hard to find other than when first released.
Personally not a fan of NZ Sauv Blanc (will sometimes make an exception for Greywacke) but love the odd Pouilly-Fum . If your only real experience is with the new world ones, perhaps give a french one a try?
The only sweet wines I have tried so far have been Sauternes, Tokaji, Pedro Ximenex and of course Port. I do have a bottle of some German dessert wine (no idea what it's called) but have yet to try it. One of the wine bars my girlfriend and I frequent has an adjoining wine shop, which is always dangerous to visit after a glass or two.
The salesman saw me looking (and saw me coming I think) at the dessert wines and recommended it saying one of his customers puts it on a similar level to Yquem and buys it whenever it comes in. Needless to say, at 30 a bottle and having just polished off a bottle of Pinot Noir, it seemed a shrewd investment. We shall see. I will look out for a Pouilly-Fume based on your recommendation.
Edited by InductionRoar on Tuesday 24th May 20:34
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