White Wine appreciation & pictures thread

White Wine appreciation & pictures thread

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PomBstard

6,790 posts

243 months

Sunday 14th August 2022
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andyA700 said:
PomBstard said:
Don’t drink a lot of white, but found this in the cupboard - seems to have held up well and is buttery smooth…

Has it got Jean Durup pere & fils on the bottle?

https://www.durup-chablis.com/en/vin-chablis/

https://www.durup-chablis.com/en/vin-chablis/chate...

https://www.durup-chablis.com/en/vin-chablis/chate...
Indeed it does…



And, yes, it was rather delicious lick

As an aside, I’ve got some 2007 Grosset Polish Hill Riesling ready for when PB Jnr1 hits 18 in 2025 - quite looking forward to that…

https://www.grosset.com.au/2007/06/22/grosset-poli...

Carl_Manchester

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12,239 posts

263 months

Sunday 14th August 2022
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I had a bottle of the coop 'irresistible Chablis' just before the heat wave started.

The decanter review was spot on, whilst it is a decent wine with minimal sulphites, I don't think it's a Chablis either.

7.5/10.

andyA700

2,740 posts

38 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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Carl_Manchester said:
I had a bottle of the coop 'irresistible Chablis' just before the heat wave started.

The decanter review was spot on, whilst it is a decent wine with minimal sulphites, I don't think it's a Chablis either.

7.5/10.
Why don't you think it is a Chablis, because the AOC rules in France are very strict about that. Does it simply taste different, maybe like a chardonnay from the Macon area, which are fuller and more fruity?

Carl_Manchester

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12,239 posts

263 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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It doesn't taste like one...maybe I need a few more bottles to continue my investigation smile

A good mid range Chablis should be a little bit creamy but at least there was not a wall of acid to breakthrough with this Chablis. With some of the higher end Chablis you need about half a bottle down you before the palette adjusts.

Arranguez

360 posts

74 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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We had a Roaring Meg Pinot Grigio the other day. Was delicious.

Dblue

3,252 posts

201 months

Tuesday 16th August 2022
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Carl_Manchester said:
It doesn't taste like one...maybe I need a few more bottles to continue my investigation smile

A good mid range Chablis should be a little bit creamy but at least there was not a wall of acid to breakthrough with this Chablis. With some of the higher end Chablis you need about half a bottle down you before the palette adjusts.
Chablis should have a mineral, flinty character though, limpid. Personally, find the very best premier cru or village wines from the best producers a better more classical experience than the grand crus.

Generally best after a bit of time open, or decanted , but it needs to be nicely chilled, Get the ice bucket out.

Been pretty disappointed by all the supermarket Chablis I've had these last couple of years, none memorable, some very ordinary - especially the Union Des Viticulteurs wines.

andyA700

2,740 posts

38 months

Wednesday 17th August 2022
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Dblue said:
Carl_Manchester said:
It doesn't taste like one...maybe I need a few more bottles to continue my investigation smile

A good mid range Chablis should be a little bit creamy but at least there was not a wall of acid to breakthrough with this Chablis. With some of the higher end Chablis you need about half a bottle down you before the palette adjusts.
Chablis should have a mineral, flinty character though, limpid. Personally, find the very best premier cru or village wines from the best producers a better more classical experience than the grand crus.

Generally best after a bit of time open, or decanted , but it needs to be nicely chilled, Get the ice bucket out.

Been pretty disappointed by all the supermarket Chablis I've had these last couple of years, none memorable, some very ordinary - especially the Union Des Viticulteurs wines.
Pretty much agree with all that. Wine is all down to temperature and what the French call "terroir". If there was a sparkling Chablis, then it would be very similar to a Blanc de Blanc Champagne, whereas the white Burgs from Beaune and the surrounding area are creamier and have more complexity.

Carl_Manchester

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12,239 posts

263 months

Friday 19th August 2022
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The first *sic* fruits of this weekends white wine Safari. Both from m&s.

One is a Chardonnay (engage strong essex accent) one is a Chablis. Both are priced again in the mid range.








andyA700

2,740 posts

38 months

Friday 19th August 2022
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Carl_Manchester said:
The first *sic* fruits of this weekends white wine Safari. Both from m&s.

One is a Chardonnay (engage strong essex accent) one is a Chablis. Both are priced again in the mid range.





Two nice chardonnays which should each have a distinctive taste. I wonder if the Montagny will have a slight vegetal thing going on, which I love about white Burgundy. Blimey, that Montagny is 14%.

ettore

4,134 posts

253 months

Friday 19th August 2022
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Carl_Manchester said:
It doesn't taste like one...maybe I need a few more bottles to continue my investigation smile

A good mid range Chablis should be a little bit creamy but at least there was not a wall of acid to breakthrough with this Chablis. With some of the higher end Chablis you need about half a bottle down you before the palette adjusts.
You do get the odd rogue Chablis - normally they're unoaked (or very lightly oaked) which gives the classic harder edge. Unusually - being French - this isn't the law though, and some are properly oaked and taste nothing at all like Chablis. I think these are specifically produced so that clever Sommeliers can show up smartarse customers (not that this happened to me, oh no).

Lucenay

48 posts

22 months

Saturday 20th August 2022
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Carl_Manchester said:
The first *sic* fruits of this weekends white wine Safari. Both from m&s.

One is a Chardonnay (engage strong essex accent) one is a Chablis. Both are priced again in the mid range.
They are both "a Chardonnay"

Lucenay

48 posts

22 months

Saturday 20th August 2022
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The Montagny from Buxy, I collect my loyalty points from the Buxy wine co-operative, not far from home. The second wine, the Chablis, is from the Jean Marc Brocard estate. Have you tried his Kimméridgien and Jurassique wines? His Sauvignon St Bris wines are also wonderful.

Edited by Lucenay on Saturday 20th August 18:10

Carl_Manchester

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12,239 posts

263 months

Sunday 21st August 2022
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Thanks for the correction, I am still a wine rookie.

We drank the Montagny on Friday night and it was everything I hoped it would be, it was a really good bottle of wine.

I have not tried the ones you have suggested but I have written them down on my phone and will keep a look out.

48k

13,120 posts

149 months

Friday 26th August 2022
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This is currently my go-to easy/cheap drinker. £10 from Tesco and is absolutely delightful.

Carl_Manchester

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12,239 posts

263 months

Friday 9th September 2022
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This weekends lineup.



La reine pedauque 2020
Chateauneuf-du-pape 2020
Cote de lechet 2020.


Lotobear

6,378 posts

129 months

Friday 9th September 2022
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2021 Laurel Miquel Viognier has been on offer at Waitrose for a few weeks now at £6.99 and is really very good indeed.

sean ie3

2,045 posts

137 months

Friday 9th September 2022
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Aldi for 8.99

Decent.

VTECMatt

1,174 posts

239 months

Saturday 10th September 2022
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Carl_Manchester said:
This weekends lineup.



La reine pedauque 2020
Chateauneuf-du-pape 2020
Cote de lechet 2020.
Are they not a little young?

Carl_Manchester

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12,239 posts

263 months

Saturday 10th September 2022
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I will be happy to find out smile

Many whites are better enjoyed young.

The 'La reine pedauque' is, according to the internet, a village wine and not classed in the same regard to the premier or grand crus up the road in the same region.

That said, it tastes properly expensive, with an oaky finish. If you were given it at a Michelin star brasserie on the continent, it would not be out of place. It tastes sublime.



Edited by Carl_Manchester on Sunday 11th September 20:00

VTECMatt

1,174 posts

239 months

Sunday 11th September 2022
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Carl_Manchester said:
This weekends lineup.



La reine pedauque 2020
Chateauneuf-du-pape 2020
Cote de lechet 2020.
Are they not a little young?