Decent red wine for a tenner? (better than Barossa Ink)
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havoc said:
Lotobear said:
After the Pomerol, Aldi now have a 2016 Margaux on offer for..... £9.99!!
Hmmm...cab-sauv heavy blend. Not for me...sure it's lovely, but I've never got on with cabernet sauv's.Quick shout that Waitrose have got their 'fine wines for £10' offer on again.
The Gaia organic malbec is a cracking bottle at that price - grab some while you can - it's become my go-to bottle to accompany steak. And the Escarpment pinot noir (Martinborough NZ - a step up from the usual Marlborough vineyards) is also definitely worth a punt...that's almost never that cheap.
The Gaia organic malbec is a cracking bottle at that price - grab some while you can - it's become my go-to bottle to accompany steak. And the Escarpment pinot noir (Martinborough NZ - a step up from the usual Marlborough vineyards) is also definitely worth a punt...that's almost never that cheap.
I might miss access to wines from France/Italy/ROTW I had in the Uk, but I don’t miss the ridiculous pricing…
The Guvnor… made from Tempranillo, blended with a bit of garnacha. Stick a different label on the bottle and sell it to the Brits for £8 a bottle… same stuff is €2,50 in my local supermarket.
Mucho mas is much the same… but Tempranillo blended with Shyrah… around €5.
Non region specific wines (ie; the grapes come from vineyards all over Spain), with no regional quality grade, sold to the Brits as semi-premium.
The Guvnor… made from Tempranillo, blended with a bit of garnacha. Stick a different label on the bottle and sell it to the Brits for £8 a bottle… same stuff is €2,50 in my local supermarket.
Mucho mas is much the same… but Tempranillo blended with Shyrah… around €5.
Non region specific wines (ie; the grapes come from vineyards all over Spain), with no regional quality grade, sold to the Brits as semi-premium.
Chris Stott said:
I might miss access to wines from France/Italy/ROTW I had in the Uk, but I don’t miss the ridiculous pricing…
The Guvnor… made from Tempranillo, blended with a bit of garnacha. Stick a different label on the bottle and sell it to the Brits for £8 a bottle… same stuff is €2,50 in my local supermarket.
Mucho mas is much the same… but Tempranillo blended with Shyrah… around €5.
Non region specific wines (ie; the grapes come from vineyards all over Spain), with no regional quality grade, sold to the Brits as semi-premium.
I aint “geeky” when it comes to Wine, or any alcohol for that mater. The Guvnor… made from Tempranillo, blended with a bit of garnacha. Stick a different label on the bottle and sell it to the Brits for £8 a bottle… same stuff is €2,50 in my local supermarket.
Mucho mas is much the same… but Tempranillo blended with Shyrah… around €5.
Non region specific wines (ie; the grapes come from vineyards all over Spain), with no regional quality grade, sold to the Brits as semi-premium.
At £6.99 a bottle I definitely aint fussed at where its made or what grade of grape is in it…..it tastes GREAT & is very easy to drink so its a Win for me
Anyone tried this: https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/gol-ui/product/santod...
Usually £10 (in Sainsburys) but on a 'special' down to £8 if you buy 6 of them. I've just been to my local store for some other wines and saw them on the shelf at £6, so with a 25% discount, it makes then £4.50 - hopefully a bargain - I bought what they had - 12 bottles. Will try it over the weekend probably.
Usually £10 (in Sainsburys) but on a 'special' down to £8 if you buy 6 of them. I've just been to my local store for some other wines and saw them on the shelf at £6, so with a 25% discount, it makes then £4.50 - hopefully a bargain - I bought what they had - 12 bottles. Will try it over the weekend probably.
S6PNJ said:
Anyone tried this: https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/gol-ui/product/santod...
Usually £10 (in Sainsburys) but on a 'special' down to £8 if you buy 6 of them. I've just been to my local store for some other wines and saw them on the shelf at £6, so with a 25% discount, it makes then £4.50 - hopefully a bargain - I bought what they had - 12 bottles. Will try it over the weekend probably.
Complete bargain! Love this wine, surely the £6 was an error?!Usually £10 (in Sainsburys) but on a 'special' down to £8 if you buy 6 of them. I've just been to my local store for some other wines and saw them on the shelf at £6, so with a 25% discount, it makes then £4.50 - hopefully a bargain - I bought what they had - 12 bottles. Will try it over the weekend probably.
Hugo Stiglitz said:
The problem with Brits is it can't be good unless it's expensive. Bizarre thinking.
There are 2 ends of the red wine taste scale 1. Soft, ‘sweet’, fruity
2. Dry, tannic, acidic
Wines in the 2nd group are much harder to get the balance right and therefore tend to cost more.
Chris Stott said:
There are 2 ends of the red wine taste scale
1. Soft, ‘sweet’, fruity
2. Dry, tannic, acidic
Wines in the 2nd group are much harder to get the balance right and therefore tend to cost more.
More than a slight oversimplification there.1. Soft, ‘sweet’, fruity
2. Dry, tannic, acidic
Wines in the 2nd group are much harder to get the balance right and therefore tend to cost more.
- Getting the length of finish right applies to all wines (red esp.), something you've not referenced.
- "Fruity" SHOULD apply to all reds, but to varying degrees (and you can add flavours such as oak, tobacco, chocolate, vanilla etc. as an underlay/overlay depending on the wine)
- Acidic is a characteristic that is independent of tannins - pinot noir, for example.
- ...and there's probably more that an expert could tell you that I'm not aware of.
So there's not one spectrum, there's at least 3 or 4 axes to deal with. Sure, if you just go for cheap supermarket cab-sauv you'll get #2 in spades, while a cheap supermarket beaujolais will be emblematic of #1. But there's a TON of nuances in-between.
...and then there's ageing. A young cab-sauv, as mentioned, is very #2...really not for me, can't stand the cloying feel of heavy tannins all over your mouth for ages. But a properly aged cab-sauv softens the tannins off enough for me to be quite drinkable if you serve it to me with a Sunday roast, a steak or even a spag-bol.
Lotobear said:
....surely this has to be the thread winner!
a 2016 Chateau Pomerol (14.5%) for £9.99!!
This is a wine that Laithwiates show for £36
The Sancerre was £6.99
Both on special offer at Aldi
I'm trying the Pomerol tonight and I don't expect to be disappointed for £10
I am returning to the UK next week and so looking for a bargain until I go to France in June and this recommendation jumped out.a 2016 Chateau Pomerol (14.5%) for £9.99!!
This is a wine that Laithwiates show for £36
The Sancerre was £6.99
Both on special offer at Aldi
I'm trying the Pomerol tonight and I don't expect to be disappointed for £10
This was undoubtedly a very good bottle of wine for a tenner, but it is highly unlikely that it bears much of a resemblance to a 2016 bottle of Pomerol from Chateau Lafleur-Petrus costing €1,200 and upwards and cherished by serious investors.
The Chateau is close to Pomerol but is not one of the 24, or so, Chateaux that make up the Pomerol Appellation, nor is the blend approved in the Appellation.
It possibly is a merchant that buys their second pressings and blends his own without conflicting with the AOC. There is a huge export market for the product and the likes of Laithwaites rely heavily on them. After sitting around for 6-years in his cellar maybe he urgently needed the cash from Aldi to clear it and they have the clout to negotiate the deal and shift that quantity, after paying the exorbitant UK duties. Aldi probably paid less than £5.50p per bottle for it. It costs about €1.50 / litre to produce hand-picked cépage for fermentation in France.
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