Soft drinks that don't contain artificial sweetners

Soft drinks that don't contain artificial sweetners

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tight fart

2,927 posts

274 months

Monday 12th June 2023
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This is the bit that I believe where the science is going.

“ It also seems that the chemicals in artificial sweeteners may disrupt the delicate balance of our gut microbiome — the teeming world of stomach bugs that help our bodies to regulate the levels of sugar in our blood. Disrupt your gut and boost your risk of diabetes.”

Edited to add, its just my gut feeling.

Edited by tight fart on Monday 12th June 20:32

r3g

3,204 posts

25 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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Just a heads up that some brands have done away with the "SUGAR FREE" and "NO ADDED SUGARS" labelling which was a quick and easy to tell which ones to avoid. I spotted a 500ml bottle of Dr Pepper yesterday with no such labelling and assumed it was the full-fat sugar version. I didn't have my magnifying glass with me to read the tiny font of the ingredients so bought it anyway, thinking I'd be safe. 30 mins after drinking it, the tell-tale headache arrived with some weird hallucination type effect as well. I'd not consumed anything else prior to drinking it. Had a look at the ingredients and despite the lack of labelling, it's full of aspartame and acesulfame potassium ! furious

bolidemichael

13,904 posts

202 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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Is it the case that full fat dr pepper now has artificial sweeteners? I looked as Asda’s site and it appears so!

https://groceries.asda.com/product/regular-flavour...

It seems as though they’ve reduced the sugar content per 100ml to 4.8g, niftily avoiding the lowest threshold for sugar tax. I’d say that’s a version of ‘shrinkflation’.

TonyRPH

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12,977 posts

169 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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My O/H wanted some tonic water recently - and yes, it too has succumbed to artificial sweeteners.

She's struggling to find 'normal' tonic water!!

It's getting out of hand now.


geeks

9,204 posts

140 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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bolidemichael said:
Is it the case that full fat dr pepper now has artificial sweeteners? I looked as Asda’s site and it appears so!

https://groceries.asda.com/product/regular-flavour...

It seems as though they’ve reduced the sugar content per 100ml to 4.8g, niftily avoiding the lowest threshold for sugar tax. I’d say that’s a version of ‘shrinkflation’.
It's been that way for years now, like all the others they reformulate before the sugar tax was introduced.

r3g

3,204 posts

25 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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Why has tonic water got sugar in it ?? confused Am I missing something here?

TonyRPH

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12,977 posts

169 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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r3g said:
Why has tonic water got sugar in it ?? confused Am I missing something here?
Oops - she just reminded me that it was diet tonic water that she bought by mistake. TSK!

https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/gol-ui/product/sainsb...

Silvanus

5,264 posts

24 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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r3g said:
Why has tonic water got sugar in it ?? confused Am I missing something here?
most tonic waters have either sugar or sweetener in, often both.

TonyRPH

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12,977 posts

169 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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The most annoying one for me recently (it's been ages since I had a bad cold) was Lemsip.

Lemsip ingredients said:
Ingredients
Ingredients (per sachet): Paracetamol 1000mg, Phenylephrine Hydrochloride 12.2mg, Also contains Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Aspartame, Lactose, Sodium and Sucrose
Just why???

Digger

14,702 posts

192 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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Which is regarded as the least worse of the more common sweeteners?

I have tended to gravitate towards Sucralose for the past however many years . . .

bolidemichael

13,904 posts

202 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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geeks said:
bolidemichael said:
Is it the case that full fat dr pepper now has artificial sweeteners? I looked as Asda’s site and it appears so!

https://groceries.asda.com/product/regular-flavour...

It seems as though they’ve reduced the sugar content per 100ml to 4.8g, niftily avoiding the lowest threshold for sugar tax. I’d say that’s a version of ‘shrinkflation’.
It's been that way for years now, like all the others they reformulate before the sugar tax was introduced.
For ‘full fat’ Dr Pepper, too? Fair enough, I was assuming that r3g’s outrage was in response to a recent and unannounced alteration to the ingredients!

Speed 3

4,592 posts

120 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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I'm not generally a soft drink (or water) fan but don't have the side effects the OP and others have. I've always hated the taste of low cal drinks, no matter what they say, they just taste bitter and saccharine to me.

I've been working in Brazil on a project for the last 6 months and discovered this lovely drink which is available in full fat or diet versions. Hard to describe the taste, its a small berry fruit unique to the Brazilian Amazon, its not overly sweet, sharp or tangy, just a nice smooth refreshing thing. Rather than carting it back on my monthly trips, I found you can buy it at Brazilian/World food stores and can get it through Amazon (no pun intended). If you get a chance, give it a try:



Also has some health benefits in its pure form:

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/guarana-benef...

Edited by Speed 3 on Friday 22 September 12:48

r3g

3,204 posts

25 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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bolidemichael said:
For ‘full fat’ Dr Pepper, too? Fair enough, I was assuming that r3g’s outrage was in response to a recent and unannounced alteration to the ingredients!
It is. The ones without any labelling were natural sugars, which is what I thought I was buying. What they've actually done is the same tactic as Pepsi (as discussed here a few months back) whereby they've reduced the natural sugar content to a miniscule level in order for the sugar level to avoid the sugar tax, and then dumped in a load of E950 and E951 (Ace K & Aspartame) sugar flavoured chemicals to get it to taste similar to what the natural sugars one tasted like. It#s basically identical to the sugar-free version now. The problem is that many people get nasty headaches, migraines and other unpleasant effects from consuming E950, E951 and E955 (Sucralose), hence this thread to identify the culprits and share alternatives.

I believe the natural sugar "full fat" original Coke is now the only one remaining which hasn't yet succumbed to the E950/E951 death knell.

r3g

3,204 posts

25 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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Digger said:
Which is regarded as the least worse of the more common sweeteners?

I have tended to gravitate towards Sucralose for the past however many years . . .
I've tried them all in an attempt to find one that provides some relief but unfortunately they all give me grief. All = the common ones found in the various drinks and beverages in the UK : acesulfame K (E950), aspartame (E951), sucralose (E955), stevia (E960), erythritol (E968), saccharin (E954), sorbitol (E420), xylitol (E967).

bolidemichael

13,904 posts

202 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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r3g said:
bolidemichael said:
For ‘full fat’ Dr Pepper, too? Fair enough, I was assuming that r3g’s outrage was in response to a recent and unannounced alteration to the ingredients!
It is. The ones without any labelling were natural sugars, which is what I thought I was buying. What they've actually done is the same tactic as Pepsi (as discussed here a few months back) whereby they've reduced the natural sugar content to a miniscule level in order for the sugar level to avoid the sugar tax, and then dumped in a load of E950 and E951 (Ace K & Aspartame) sugar flavoured chemicals to get it to taste similar to what the natural sugars one tasted like. It#s basically identical to the sugar-free version now. The problem is that many people get nasty headaches, migraines and other unpleasant effects from consuming E950, E951 and E955 (Sucralose), hence this thread to identify the culprits and share alternatives.

I believe the natural sugar "full fat" original Coke is now the only one remaining which hasn't yet succumbed to the E950/E951 death knell.
That’s awful, absolutely awful. Mind you, they’re all Ultra Processed Foods and without intending to sound glib, we’re all best off avoiding them all.

Cherry Coke, in addition to Coca Cola, remains free of artificial sweeteners.

FilH

630 posts

145 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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Just found this thread, so are we all in the minority?

I used to love Ribena and went off it , just thought I was getting old and my tastes had changed.


Then I was also a Pepsi drinker until earlier this year, had can and thought I either had a bad batch or was geting Covid again! Checked an old can from the recycling bin and discovered the crime!

So has it hit the profits of these companies? Or do most people not care and were on the poor tasting diet versions already?


Now a coke and cheery coke fizzy drinker and Rocks for squash.



And don't get me started on the reducing % in beer that keeps happening.


Why can the bunch of medling government crack pots just leave it alone!

geeks

9,204 posts

140 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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TonyRPH said:
The most annoying one for me recently (it's been ages since I had a bad cold) was Lemsip.

Lemsip ingredients said:
Ingredients
Ingredients (per sachet): Paracetamol 1000mg, Phenylephrine Hydrochloride 12.2mg, Also contains Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Aspartame, Lactose, Sodium and Sucrose
Just why???
Beachams is or was free of it

TonyRPH

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12,977 posts

169 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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geeks said:
Beachams is or was free of it
Thanks, I just checked and it still is apparently. Cheaper too!

Slow.Patrol

514 posts

15 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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I've been drinking this stuff recently



It is not sweet however, and low calorie.

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

109 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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Those have sweeteners, which is bizarre for a kombucha. You're better getting a more traditionally made one.

ingredients said:
Raw kombucha (carbonated water, sugar*, black tea leaves, green tea leaves, traditional kombucha culture), flavour enhancer: erythritol, hibiscus tea, natural raspberry flavouring, lemon juice, sweetener: steviol glycosides.
It looks like my favoured supermarket brand has sweeteners now too. Balls.