Home-Brew Spirits?

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GTO Scott

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225 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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I'm looking to make some home-brew spirits (dark rum, sambuca, etc) - has anyone tried to do so and what kit do I need?

The Still Spirits stuff appears well priced, but they don't list a distiller.

I'd also like to go on to try brewing beer, but thats going to be after I get the hang of making spirits...... nuts

Bob the Planner

4,695 posts

270 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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I was talking on this subject with a PHer on Tuesday. Done the beer and wine thing but not the spirits

Edited by Bob the Planner on Friday 5th December 07:56

twistedsanity

493 posts

239 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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erm......
Isn't it illegal to distill your own spirits?

whirligig

941 posts

196 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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yep, just a tad illegal! Used to be done a lot in the Highlands and there are lots of legends about where the olds stills have been stashed away from the exisemen but haven't come across any yet.....

Nefarious

989 posts

266 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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twistedsanity said:
erm......
Isn't it illegal to distill your own spirits?
AFAIK it doesn't involved distillation - it's special yeast that can tolerate alcohol concentrations up to 20-25%, plus various flavourings.

As an aside, "freezer distillation" (putting wine etc in the freezer and skimming off the ice from the top) isn't illegal, and back when I was a teenager I made some pretty potent fortified wines from my parent's more experimental home made wines - apricot sherry, morello cherry sherry. Never officially tested the strength, but I'd guess at the 20-25% range.

Edited by Nefarious on Friday 5th December 09:06

neilsfishing

3,502 posts

199 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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I always fancy it but in the films they blow-up

prand

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197 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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It's illegal to distill spirits in the UK without a license, but not illegal to purchase "ornamental" copper stills - which may or may not be usable for such a function.

There's also a "water purifier" you can use to create spirits from yeast fermented liquid (beer for whisky, cider for ca;vados, wine for brandy etc).

e.g. http://www.homebrewcentregy.com/Water_Purifier.htm...

Mobile Chicane

20,855 posts

213 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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Easy to do, so long as you note the boiling point of methanol (which comes off first) as opposed to the boiling point of ethanol.

A distant cousin of mine in Russia went blind and died after drinking 'bathtub' vodka containing methanol - it's a reasonably frequent occurrence.

To be on the safe side you would need to distil it twice.

xrv

544 posts

216 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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This takes me back to my days in the school chemistry lab. Lovly blurry memories of test tubes and 4kg of brewing quality yeast that we got from a local distillery managers daughter.

If you want to make something that is legal and fun why not brew cider or ale. Then leave it in a shed at this time of year. Remove the ice off the top each morning and it will soon remove the water and leave a rather potent consentrate.


madala

5,063 posts

199 months

Saturday 6th December 2008
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GTO Scott said:
I'm looking to make some home-brew spirits (dark rum, sambuca, etc) - has anyone tried to do so and what kit do I need?

The Still Spirits stuff appears well priced, but they don't list a distiller.

I'd also like to go on to try brewing beer, but thats going to be after I get the hang of making spirits...... nuts
....it's illegal....

Bob the Planner

4,695 posts

270 months

Saturday 6th December 2008
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unless you have a licence and pay the duty !

Tanguero

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202 months

Saturday 6th December 2008
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Not to be too "health and safety" but it can genuinely be fairly dangerous, a still leaking hot alcohol vapour into a confined space makes a splendid fuel-air bomb given a source of ignition. Methanol distilled in the first fractions condensed tends to damage the optic nerve and cause blindness - either temporary or permanent depending on concentration. Congeners (fusel oils) distilled in the last fractions condensed can hgave a wide variety of toxic effects varying form mildly unpleasant to terminal.

Oh and the govenrment really doesnt like losing the duty so they tend to come down like a ton of bricks if they catch you.

Nothing that insurmountable, but probably worth knowing the risks. biggrin

GTO Scott

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Saturday 6th December 2008
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Tanguero said:
Not to be too "health and safety" but it can genuinely be fairly dangerous, a still leaking hot alcohol vapour into a confined space makes a splendid fuel-air bomb given a source of ignition. Methanol distilled in the first fractions condensed tends to damage the optic nerve and cause blindness - either temporary or permanent depending on concentration. Congeners (fusel oils) distilled in the last fractions condensed can hgave a wide variety of toxic effects varying form mildly unpleasant to terminal.

Oh and the govenrment really doesnt like losing the duty so they tend to come down like a ton of bricks if they catch you.

Nothing that insurmountable, but probably worth knowing the risks. biggrin
Ok thanks for the advice - If I go ahead with the plan i'll be doing so in a well-ventilated area - I really don't want to put myself at risk. I might just start by using vodka as the base - though it won't work out much cheaper than buying the proper spirit in the first place scratchchin

Definitely needs consideration, as does the production of beer and cider yes

Balmoral Green

40,988 posts

249 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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I have bought this little lot today...



...and I can't wait to get started, but not until my distillers licence has come through whistle

RIP Popcorn Sutton frown

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inbmJy0xJgk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNY3_00p180&fea...

Edited by Balmoral Green on Friday 24th April 19:23

madbadger

11,571 posts

245 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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Cool.

What are the additives you have gone for? I'm assuming Whisky biased.

smile

Balmoral Green

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249 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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The kit came with Whisky, Bourbon, Gin, Dark Rum & Cognac. But I bought a couple of bottles of other Whisky flavourings too, a so called Premium and a Peaty one that allures to a touch of Islay (my arse!). There was also a taster kit with 14 different styles of malt flavourings, but I passed on that for the time being.

So, is this going to be any good, or is it going to taste like the cheapest supermarket blended? hehe

Edited by Balmoral Green on Friday 24th April 20:22

madbadger

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Friday 24th April 2009
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Balmoral Green said:
So, is this going to be any good, or is it going to taste like the cheapest supermarket blended? hehe
We shall see. wink

GTO Scott

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Friday 24th April 2009
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Balmoral Green said:
I have bought this little lot today...



...and I can't wait to get started, but not until my distillers licence has come through whistle
I went out and bought much of the same kit - I am ashamed to say since then it has remained in it's box unused boxedin

I really must dig it all out and crack on with production!

Chuffer

1,021 posts

191 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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Balmoral Green said:
I have bought this little lot today...



...and I can't wait to get started, but not until my distillers licence has come through whistle
That looks like quite a kit. I have tried something similar on a smaller scale once before. Or at least it didn't have so many component parts!

Would Sire like to divulge where he acquired such a consummate kit and how many groats it would cost to purchase such equipment? If not, t'is understandable. wink

Looking forward to future updates. jester

(has visions of either medieval mead, or Dukes of Hazzard moonshine runs across county lines)

Balmoral Green

40,988 posts

249 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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Chuffer said:
Would Sire like to divulge where he acquired such a consummate kit and how many groats it would cost to purchase such equipment?
I had a call in Chesterfield this afternoon, and made a spontaneous purchase.

http://www.wineworks.co.uk/product/still_spirits_s...

Chuffer said:
Dukes of Hazzard moonshine runs across county lines
I think I'll stick with the Balmoral Green paintwork on the Bentley thanks biggrin