Should I invest in wine?

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jamoor

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14,506 posts

216 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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I don't drink, so that's a start, is it worth me buying a few cases of wine and leaving them in my garage to fester for as long as I can?

Is there any conditions that need to be applied? Which wines should I buy and hopefully make a big profit on a couple of decades later?


Bing o

15,184 posts

220 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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jamoor said:
I don't drink, so that's a start, is it worth me buying a few cases of wine and leaving them in my garage to fester for as long as I can?

Is there any conditions that need to be applied? Which wines should I buy and hopefully make a big profit on a couple of decades later?
Far better people than me will tell you what you need to do.

If it's an investment, you need to make sure that it's stored properly.

My mate uses a company in Hampshire that has it's own cellar.

richyb

4,615 posts

211 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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If you need to ask you probably shouldn't IMHO. I imagine to do well you need to be very clued up.

jamoor

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14,506 posts

216 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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Bing o said:
jamoor said:
I don't drink, so that's a start, is it worth me buying a few cases of wine and leaving them in my garage to fester for as long as I can?

Is there any conditions that need to be applied? Which wines should I buy and hopefully make a big profit on a couple of decades later?
Far better people than me will tell you what you need to do.

If it's an investment, you need to make sure that it's stored properly.

My mate uses a company in Hampshire that has it's own cellar.
Using a company means it costs money.

How do you sell wine, it's not as though you can just put it on ebay ?

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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Sounds like a winner..
Buy stocks & shares, could be worthless in 10 years
Buy wine, it may still be worthless, but at least you can drown your sorrows!

Bing o

15,184 posts

220 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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jamoor said:
Bing o said:
jamoor said:
I don't drink, so that's a start, is it worth me buying a few cases of wine and leaving them in my garage to fester for as long as I can?

Is there any conditions that need to be applied? Which wines should I buy and hopefully make a big profit on a couple of decades later?
Far better people than me will tell you what you need to do.

If it's an investment, you need to make sure that it's stored properly.

My mate uses a company in Hampshire that has it's own cellar.
Using a company means it costs money.

How do you sell wine, it's not as though you can just put it on ebay ?
The company my mate uses can organise this, or you build up a relationship with local restaurants.

Yes it costs, but not as much as fking up some good quality wine in your garage.

jamoor

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14,506 posts

216 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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Bing o said:
jamoor said:
Bing o said:
jamoor said:
I don't drink, so that's a start, is it worth me buying a few cases of wine and leaving them in my garage to fester for as long as I can?

Is there any conditions that need to be applied? Which wines should I buy and hopefully make a big profit on a couple of decades later?
Far better people than me will tell you what you need to do.

If it's an investment, you need to make sure that it's stored properly.

My mate uses a company in Hampshire that has it's own cellar.
Using a company means it costs money.

How do you sell wine, it's not as though you can just put it on ebay ?
The company my mate uses can organise this, or you build up a relationship with local restaurants.

Yes it costs, but not as much as fking up some good quality wine in your garage.
Maybe, but if you sell it sold as seen, then there's a chance of getting away with it tongue out

Crimson Tide

4,950 posts

215 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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swerni said:
Jimboka said:
Sounds like a winner..
Buy stocks & shares, could be worthless in 10 years
Buy wine, it may still be worthless, but at least you can drown your sorrows!
not if it turns out he purchased 2 gallons of vinegar wink
Last time I checked, people still bought vinegar. It's a win-win.

Engineer1

10,486 posts

210 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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People in the know or those with an idea about wine will know what years wines from what regions are worth laying down and what is only really good for immediate drinking, even picking a good wine can result in bottles of vinegar, and the vinegar will be bad.

Miss Pitstop

4,289 posts

203 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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From what I've heard, you can pay some people "cellar fees" which are next to nothing, but if you you nothing, why expect to make something?

Catz

4,812 posts

212 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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jamoor said:
How do you sell wine, it's not as though you can just put it on ebay ?
Through a specialist company or auction.

I'm not sure they'll be interested in wine that's sat in your garage for 10 years though.

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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I would recommened using a specialist firm to help advise on which wines to buy - simply buying any wines and sticking them in the garage for 20 years is unlikely to turn a profit.

I'd recommend www.laywheeler.com, who I have been 'investing' with for 3 years or so now, and should have £4k-£5k of win in storage. I set aside £100 per month, and every so often L&W send me details of wine which they have bought on my behalf (or send me suggestions) based on the types of wine I have told them I am interested in.

I don't really see this as an investment (as I plan to drink the wine when it is mature), but if i do buy a wine that becomes hugely valuable then that will be a nice bonus!

cheers

Sidicks

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

247 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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The words "wine" and "investment" just don't sit comfortably together.

Unless, of course, you're already comfortable with the concepts of "horse race", and "big win".

jessica

6,321 posts

253 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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I would be crap at this........................ drunk

AUDIHenry

2,201 posts

188 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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Gotta keep it sideways, out of the sun, and in the right humidity.

Good luck.

jamoor

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14,506 posts

216 months

Sunday 15th February 2009
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sidicks said:
I would recommened using a specialist firm to help advise on which wines to buy - simply buying any wines and sticking them in the garage for 20 years is unlikely to turn a profit.
Exactly what I want to do, but clearly it won't work.

I don't want to spend any money on it bar the cost of the wine.

Eggle

3,583 posts

237 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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shout Bebs
He is your man.
The best thing is have a chat with him. Buy it and leave it in a bonded warehouse. Just leave it to make you money!

cramorra

1,666 posts

236 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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Buy it only if you want to drink it
as with all material investments you have to store it properly, look after it, it may be stolen (or consumed - do you have kids/friends...)
and most importantly you cannot predict what it is going to be worth when you need the money (IMO OF COURSE)

JRM

2,043 posts

233 months

Tuesday 17th February 2009
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Well whatever you do don't invest in Cos - presumably you just watched that programme on BBC Four last night and the owner just came across as the most greedy arrogant tosser ever.

Thought Berry's came through it rather well though.

Anyway onto the OP's topic, it has been a pretty sound investment and ticks along quite well, but this, like many investments, has a lot to do with the success of the overall global economy.

I don't think it has always been the case, but if you were to purchase anything with a decent Parker score (and that means Bordeaux) en primeur, then store it in bond for around 5 years, you could probably sell for at least 50% on top, often much more, but then your money has been tied up for 5 years. So you take your pick. Personally I go for wine, but then I have a passion for it and at the end of the day if it didn't make any money I wouldn't be bothered.

Bebs

2,917 posts

282 months

Tuesday 17th February 2009
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Eggle said:
shout Bebs
He is your man.
The best thing is have a chat with him. Buy it and leave it in a bonded warehouse. Just leave it to make you money!
Here I am yes
I wrote a long post a little while ago which was unfortunately taken down by the Mods - they thought I was advertising nono

PM me for any advice - but yes, wine is certainly better than the stock market and the clincher? There is NO CAPITAL GAINS TAX on your profit bow