Should I invest in wine?

[escargot]

I caught the last half hour actually. It triggered me into remembering that I really do need to get that wine sorted for the little lad.

I'm not really up on the 2008 vintages. Where in France did have a good year?

[Bebs]

escargot said:

I'm quite keen to buy a case of Ch. Margaux 2008. Basically because it was the year my brothers son was born and I thought it would make an excellent 21st birthday present. Any word on the grapevine as to possible price yet Bebs?

Not yet mate - the 08 en-primeurs will not be released until summer this year. We're tasting them in early April and they are released a couple of months later.

[escargot]

Cheers mate. Do you have any professional opinion or a ballpark? Given that it looked like being a more 'modest' vintage, are we looking at a few hundred quid a bottle? PM if you prefer

[Bebs]

escargot said:

Cheers mate. Do you have any professional opinion or a ballpark? Given that it looked like being a more 'modest' vintage, are we looking at a few hundred quid a bottle? PM if you prefer

It really depends how greedy the Chateaux and negociants decide to be.. bearing in mind the 07 was a rubbish vintage I suspect they'll want to hike it up.. but a couple of hundred to 250 a bottle prob not far off the mark..

[escargot]

Bebs said:

escargot said:

Cheers mate. Do you have any professional opinion or a ballpark? Given that it looked like being a more 'modest' vintage, are we looking at a few hundred quid a bottle? PM if you prefer

It really depends how greedy the Chateaux and negociants decide to be.. bearing in mind the 07 was a rubbish vintage I suspect they'll want to hike it up.. but a couple of hundred to 250 a bottle prob not far off the mark..

Any other recommendations around that sort of price mate?

[Ozzie Osmond]

escargot said:

I'm not really up on the 2008 vintages. Where in France did have a good year?

I guess we all have our reasons for "investing" but it's best to do it in something you know about.

Parting with any kind of wedge on the basis of what's said on a motoring web-site might just contain an element of risk. But it's your money.....

[escargot]

The return is irrelevant, it's for drinking.

[Bebs]

escargot said:

Bebs said:

escargot said:

Cheers mate. Do you have any professional opinion or a ballpark? Given that it looked like being a more 'modest' vintage, are we looking at a few hundred quid a bottle? PM if you prefer

It really depends how greedy the Chateaux and negociants decide to be.. bearing in mind the 07 was a rubbish vintage I suspect they'll want to hike it up.. but a couple of hundred to 250 a bottle prob not far off the mark..

Any other recommendations around that sort of price mate?

I can't really recommend anything until I have been down to Bordeaux and tasted the en-primeurs..

[TpdNotts]

Bebs said:

escargot said:

Bebs said:

escargot said:

Cheers mate. Do you have any professional opinion or a ballpark? Given that it looked like being a more 'modest' vintage, are we looking at a few hundred quid a bottle? PM if you prefer

It really depends how greedy the Chateaux and negociants decide to be.. bearing in mind the 07 was a rubbish vintage I suspect they'll want to hike it up.. but a couple of hundred to 250 a bottle prob not far off the mark..

Any other recommendations around that sort of price mate?

I can't really recommend anything until I have been down to Bordeaux and tasted the en-primeurs..

A terrible job but someone's got to do it lol!

[Bebs]

TpdNotts said:

Bebs said:

escargot said:

Bebs said:

escargot said:

Cheers mate. Do you have any professional opinion or a ballpark? Given that it looked like being a more 'modest' vintage, are we looking at a few hundred quid a bottle? PM if you prefer

It really depends how greedy the Chateaux and negociants decide to be.. bearing in mind the 07 was a rubbish vintage I suspect they'll want to hike it up.. but a couple of hundred to 250 a bottle prob not far off the mark..

Any other recommendations around that sort of price mate?

I can't really recommend anything until I have been down to Bordeaux and tasted the en-primeurs..

A terrible job but someone's got to do it lol!

[escargot]

TpdNotts said:

Bebs said:

escargot said:

Bebs said:

escargot said:

Cheers mate. Do you have any professional opinion or a ballpark? Given that it looked like being a more 'modest' vintage, are we looking at a few hundred quid a bottle? PM if you prefer

It really depends how greedy the Chateaux and negociants decide to be.. bearing in mind the 07 was a rubbish vintage I suspect they'll want to hike it up.. but a couple of hundred to 250 a bottle prob not far off the mark..

Any other recommendations around that sort of price mate?

I can't really recommend anything until I have been down to Bordeaux and tasted the en-primeurs..

A terrible job but someone's got to do it lol!

Aye, if you need someone to carry the spittoon, give me a shout old chap.

[Cactussed]

Ozzie Osmond said:

I guess we all have our reasons for "investing" but it's best to do it in something you know about.

Parting with any kind of wedge on the basis of what's said on a motoring web-site might just contain an element of risk. But it's your money.....

Couldn't agree more, although the beauty of PH is the breadth of people you find on here.
As for taking advice, you could do a lot worse than listen to Bebs. I've bought a lot of stuff from Brian (Bebs), most recently including 9 cases of 2005 Bordeaux. He has 20 odd years working for Christies wine auctioneers and now works through his own show. You can make your own mind up on what you think is good or bad or otherwise (read the reviews), but he definitely knows a thing or two about wine, including pointers on little known labels which offer superb drinking for a fraction of the Grand Cru cost.

He's also a decent bloke. The downside is, he will also try and convince you to buy a Ferrari. I caved and became instantly destitute, but am drinking my sorrows away in style

[Eggle]

Another vote for Brian. He found me some important date to me wine and hardly charged me anything for it! He is now looking for a special bottle for me to put by for an imminent birth, I hope.....

[Bebs]

Eggle said:

Another vote for Brian. He found me some important date to me wine and hardly charged me anything for it! He is now looking for a special bottle for me to put by for an imminent birth, I hope.....

I haven't forgotten - once the 08s have been tasted and released

[Eggle]

You see, he knows..... he cares...... TRUST HIM!!!!!!!

[Cactussed]

No, don't trust Bebs. Do some reading and some research off your own bat and THEN talk to Bebs.

At least that way you'll realise he:
a) knows his stuff and
b) has some value and insight to add.

[JRM]

He seems to so far - thanks for the mails Bebs, I'm almost thinking about taking that investment step - might have a few more questions for you though!!

[Bebs]

JRM said:

He seems to so far - thanks for the mails Bebs, I'm almost thinking about taking that investment step - might have a few more questions for you though!!

Any time