Shoot it.........eat it

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anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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Not taken a goose for a while! we used to get one on a summer evening then roast it over a nice fire on the beach! along with any fish we had caught and shelfish we had gathered! those where the days

dcw@pr

3,516 posts

244 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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Don said:
For deer obviously you'd need a stalker's rifle, FAC, and IIRC a special licence on top of that of some sort.
no special license needed - except your FAC must state you are allowed to shoot deer

dcw@pr

3,516 posts

244 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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re shooting geese with an air rifle - be careful, I would say that's pretty marginal (not saying I wouldn't have a go wink) the thing to remember is that you are NOT going for a head shot, you are going for a brain shot. So probably 75% of the area of a goose's head will not be a kill zone, just a maim zone.

You have been warned!

Edited by dcw@pr on Monday 19th October 09:34

Emsman

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6,923 posts

191 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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I wouldn't be shooting a goose with an air rifle. Not enough power to kill it unless you are within 20 yds- or are an exceptional shot.

An FAC air rifle on the other hand......

Or a 12 with some suitable sized shot

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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Emsman said:
I wouldn't be shooting a goose with an air rifle. Not enough power to kill it unless you are within 20 yds- or are an exceptional shot.

An FAC air rifle on the other hand......

Or a 12 with some suitable sized shot
FAC air rifle you say! wink

dcw@pr

3,516 posts

244 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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MonkeyMatt said:
Emsman said:
I wouldn't be shooting a goose with an air rifle. Not enough power to kill it unless you are within 20 yds- or are an exceptional shot.

An FAC air rifle on the other hand......

Or a 12 with some suitable sized shot
FAC air rifle you say! wink
?

Emsman

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6,923 posts

191 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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Erm, yes.

One that's well over 12ft lbs

A nice theoben gas ram for example

Don

28,377 posts

285 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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Emsman said:
Erm, yes.

One that's well over 12ft lbs

A nice theoben gas ram for example
So. If I wanted one of them for rabbits how tough would it be to get the FAC to go with it?

I love the idea of an air rifle that's powerful enough to actually do the job - and not have all the bother of live ammunition, noise, spent cartridges and so on.

I guess first I need a landowner and written permission? Then get the FAC for the weapon I intend to purchase, and then go buy one, right?

Emsman

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6,923 posts

191 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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A 12ft lb air rifle should be more than enough to dispatch a rabbit?

The FAC issue came about through talk of shooting geese.

Of course, should you wish to act outside of the law, I believe that a regular air weapon could be easily modified (with the right knowhow) to be more powerful than the legal limit.

Indeed, the theoben gasram is used both in theoben and weirauch (sp?) air rifles, and I am led to believe that you can simply buy a pump to increase the power as it uses air behind the piston, not a spring which compresses on 'cocking'.
Furthermore, I believe this can be added and released as you see fit, so when you are on public roads etc, you would never run the risk of carrying an illegal weapon.

Scandalous.

I can't believe it's made that easy for folk without an FAC.

Tsk. Honestly



Lefty Guns

16,169 posts

203 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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To be honest, I've found that the only practical use for fac is for taking birds out of trees where you don't want to worry where you round is going to end up.

.22lr has it's limitations wink but .17hmr is an amazing round for small prey.

Completely flat trajectory to 100 yards. cloud9

Emsman

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6,923 posts

191 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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Another vote for .17


Unless it's windy

Then I will stick to .22

dcw@pr

3,516 posts

244 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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Emsman said:
Unless it's windy

Then I will stick to .22
rofl that old chestnut???

dcw@pr

3,516 posts

244 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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Don said:
Emsman said:
Erm, yes.

One that's well over 12ft lbs

A nice theoben gas ram for example
So. If I wanted one of them for rabbits how tough would it be to get the FAC to go with it?

I love the idea of an air rifle that's powerful enough to actually do the job - and not have all the bother of live ammunition, noise, spent cartridges and so on.

I guess first I need a landowner and written permission? Then get the FAC for the weapon I intend to purchase, and then go buy one, right?
Don't make the mistake of thinking an FAC air rifle is less better than a .22lr, which is cheaper, more reliable, just as quiet, and no worrying about running out of pressure etc

Mobile Chicane

20,844 posts

213 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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I shoot pheasant and wood pigeon with a .177 air rifle. A good head shot is needed, and any miss is likely to be a clean one. Nothing worse than wounding the thing for it to die slowly later.

Pigeons get slit either side of the breastbone and the breasts flipped over and pulled out (this skins them as well), then pan-fried. Pheasants get plucked all over (with rubber gloves on since I hate feathers) and slow-cooked.

Mobile Chicane

20,844 posts

213 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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Don said:
MonkeyMatt said:
Don said:
I believe that Canada Geese have recently had their protected status removed - you'd need to check on that. An air-rifle pellet is just going to bounce off their wings and annoy them anywhere else other than a hit directly to the head.

If you are an excellent marksman and can reliably hit a 2p coin at thirty yards I reckon you could probably take a Canada Goose that way with a powerful air rifle (i.e. maximum power before requiring a FAC. To be honest, though, I'd be afraid of missing and injuring the bird and anything less than a headshot isn't going to get the job done in a humane manner.

For deer obviously you'd need a stalker's rifle, FAC, and IIRC a special licence on top of that of some sort.
I have taken Geece before when I was younger when rules didnt seam to matter so much! a head shot is normaly quite possible as you can get pretty close to Canadas before they flight!
I'll bet they roast up a treat, too! lick
A friend who shoots these (with a 12 bore and No 4 cartridges) throws them to the dogs. Apparently they taste 'fishy'.

jep

1,183 posts

210 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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Mobile Chicane said:
... Pheasants get plucked all over (with rubber gloves on since I hate feathers) and slow-cooked.
I always thought you were a pheasant plucker...





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