Disgusting chinese feeding habits

Disgusting chinese feeding habits

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pugwash4x4

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7,541 posts

222 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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Not sure if this is food/drink or news&politics

don't watch if you're quite squeamish. As a confirmed game persuits man, and died in the wool meat eater, even i find this idea highly repulsive:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howabou...

jep

1,183 posts

210 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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I'm with you there... that just seems so... so very, very wrong.

I'm still looking forward to some smoked Manx kippers for tea though! lick

Dupont666

21,613 posts

193 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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look up live fish sushi and watch the fish with half its flesh missing after the only skin half go back in the tank and swim around as a patron eats the other half... I linked it a good few months ago

dazco

4,280 posts

190 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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The callousness shown here is beyond belief. Why are they devoid of the emotions we have? What can be funny about an animal dying as you eat it?

Barbaric scum!

Don

28,377 posts

285 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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There is a difference between really, properly fresh - which is an ideal I consider retaurants should strive to do with their fish dishes - and it still moving whilst you eat it. Yes I find that repulsive, myself.

There again - most of us are prepared to eat lobster that got boiled alive. (Only way for them to be healthy to eat, apparently, something in their guts starts turning poisonous almost immediately after death...)

If you are going to eat meat a small amount of cruelty is inevitable. I'd rather it was minimised, however.

RichB

51,797 posts

285 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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Don said:
There again - most of us are prepared to eat lobster that got boiled alive.
Difference is that the Lobster is dead and in any case most chefs actually pierce the brain with a knife before plunging them in the boiling pot.

Silver993tt

9,064 posts

240 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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RichB said:
Tmost chefs actually pierce the brain with a knife before plunging them in the boiling pot.
so that's ok then? rolleyes

Edited by Silver993tt on Wednesday 18th November 17:34

Dupont666

21,613 posts

193 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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Silver993tt said:
RichB said:
Tmost chefs actually pierce the brain with a knife before plunging them in the boiling pot.
so that's ok then? rolleyes

Edited by Silver993tt on Wednesday 18th November 17:34
Dont forget eating live oysters dripping in acid...

boiling live mussels...

And who can foget the simple bug/insect snack food bitten in half alive...

dcw@pr

3,516 posts

244 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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About two weeks ago I ate live squid sashimi in Japan. It made me feel a bit funny, and I don't think it tasted any better than it would have done had it been killed 60 seconds beforehand. I shan't be doing it again.

dcw@pr

3,516 posts

244 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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Silver993tt said:
RichB said:
Tmost chefs actually pierce the brain with a knife before plunging them in the boiling pot.
so that's ok then? rolleyes

Edited by Silver993tt on Wednesday 18th November 17:34
why wouldn't it be?

Edited by dcw@pr on Wednesday 18th November 17:47

Balmoral Green

41,059 posts

249 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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I think I would need to know more about fish, their nervous system & pain/distress signals, higher brain functions and cognisance etc before I knew whether that was actually cruel or not. I am quite happy to eat live shellfish, such as oysters, but a fish is a lot higher up the evolutionary pecking order I suppose.

2marlin

31 posts

178 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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unfortunately lobsters have a distributed nervous system so stabbing them between the eyes does nothing. They die pretty quick in the pot anyway


Goughie

616 posts

190 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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Not really any need for this, but it's not much difference to Halal slaughter if you ask me...

RichB

51,797 posts

285 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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Silver993tt said:
RichB said:
most chefs actually pierce the brain with a knife before plunging them in the boiling pot.
so that's OK then? rolleyes
Is it a requirement to be argumentative on Pistonheads these days? Jeez... I have no desire to get into your debate about how different animals are dispatched before being butchered. If you eat meat something has to die. Die being the operative word, that carp is alive!

Goughie

616 posts

190 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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RichB said:
Silver993tt said:
RichB said:
most chefs actually pierce the brain with a knife before plunging them in the boiling pot.
so that's OK then? rolleyes
Is it a requirement to be argumentative on Pistonheads these days? Jeez... I have no desire to get into your debate about how different animals are dispatched before being butchered. If you eat meat something has to die. Die being the operative word, that carp is alive!
Rich, it's all a question of degree and where do you draw the line? Live oysters are great, but you are eating something alive. Does the fact that it looks like a piece of snot mean that live consumption is fine in this case but not in a vertebrate like the carp?

I share your opinions on meat eaters needing to get to grips with death, but at the end of the day so few people know how there food is produced that this sort of thing all comes as a bit of a shock.

As I mentioned in my previous post, I think Halal slaughter is pretty uneccessary and yes I've seen it happen in a halal slaughterhouse. I drove home through Balham today - all the butchers proudly declaring that their meat was "non-stunned" prior to sticking (cutting the throat).

It's out of sight out of mind when it comes to this stuff.

dcw@pr

3,516 posts

244 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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I think it comes down to necessity.

Is an oyster better alive than dead? Well it is certainly good to be as fresh as possible, and just how do you kill an oyster before eating it, and if it is already dead, how do you know how long it has been dead for?

Ditto Lobster - assuming that the knife trick doesn't do the job (I don't bother with it personally anyway)

With the carp in question, and the squid I ate, it is possible to kill them first, and I don't think they will taste any different - so IMO it is unnecessary.

Halal - probably unnecessary, although I don't have a problem with it as I think it does the job quickly enough. I've slit a lamb's throat, and apart from getting covered in blood by mistake it was a simple and quick operation.

otolith

56,541 posts

205 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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That video is ancient - I expect PETA have dug it up again to get a bit of publicity. Quite unnecessary cruelty, of course.


Somewhatfoolish

4,409 posts

187 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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It's a fish not bleeding socrates.

pugwash4x4

Original Poster:

7,541 posts

222 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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Most people don't like eating live anything- most squirm at oysters- but less be honest molluscs have the very most basic of nervous systems- even then i'd prefer to kill them- and i certainly wouldn't want to eat one bit by bit.

Its the fact that the animal is quickly despatched- plunging a crustacean into boiling water is hopefully ok because it kills them quickly (at least that's what i beleive).

Its unimagineable to disect and eat any organism piece by piece. i just DONT get it.

Ray Singh

3,048 posts

231 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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There was a tv program on this a while ago.
It focused around the biggest resteraunt in the world in Thailand. Edit - its not the biggest anymore.

They showed the way the fish was cooked by wrapping its head in a cold tea towel and deep frying its body.
Snake was also cooked so fast it still moved around the plate.
A live duck was bought out and a straw pushed through its skin into its heart.

Made me heave....Dirty dirty bds.....