iHalal food - what if you are against it?
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I think if most people saw the welfare of the animals of general supermarket meat prior to their slaughter Halal would be the least of their worries.
No matter how you dress it up slaughter is not a pretty thing. I would be interested to know of how many of the anti Halal brigade eat game?
No matter how you dress it up slaughter is not a pretty thing. I would be interested to know of how many of the anti Halal brigade eat game?
Roger645 said:
I think if most people saw the welfare of the animals of general supermarket meat prior to their slaughter Halal would be the least of their worries.
No matter how you dress it up slaughter is not a pretty thing. I would be interested to know of how many of the anti Halal brigade eat game?
The op wants to have a choice that the point of the tread, if it were the other way around there out be an outcry about lack of choice/ religous freedom. I would be very unhappy about having to eat Halal meat as it's from a faith i don't follow and i think it's cruel i can't see anyway it can be dressed up as anything diffrent.No matter how you dress it up slaughter is not a pretty thing. I would be interested to know of how many of the anti Halal brigade eat game?
Ninjaboy said:
Roger645 said:
I think if most people saw the welfare of the animals of general supermarket meat prior to their slaughter Halal would be the least of their worries.
No matter how you dress it up slaughter is not a pretty thing. I would be interested to know of how many of the anti Halal brigade eat game?
The op wants to have a choice that the point of the tread, if it were the other way around there out be an outcry about lack of choice/ religous freedom. I would be very unhappy about having to eat Halal meat as it's from a faith i don't follow and i think it's cruel i can't see anyway it can be dressed up as anything diffrent.No matter how you dress it up slaughter is not a pretty thing. I would be interested to know of how many of the anti Halal brigade eat game?
Roger645 said:
Ninjaboy said:
Roger645 said:
I think if most people saw the welfare of the animals of general supermarket meat prior to their slaughter Halal would be the least of their worries.
No matter how you dress it up slaughter is not a pretty thing. I would be interested to know of how many of the anti Halal brigade eat game?
The op wants to have a choice that the point of the tread, if it were the other way around there out be an outcry about lack of choice/ religous freedom. I would be very unhappy about having to eat Halal meat as it's from a faith i don't follow and i think it's cruel i can't see anyway it can be dressed up as anything diffrent.No matter how you dress it up slaughter is not a pretty thing. I would be interested to know of how many of the anti Halal brigade eat game?
968 said:
grumbledoak said:
968 said:
Hmm not sure, but seems to be pretty par for the course in New York City to offer Kosher food. No problems there though. Odd that.
I'm pretty sure that is par for the course in Israel, too. Not much relevance here.grumbledoak said:
But, as you are contributing, is there any problem with stunned Kosher? I couldn't find one, though I'd admit I'm not that well informed.
Could the UK not simply insist on adherence to our own animal slaughter rules without infringing somewhat ancient minority rules? They do seem to be compatible as far as I have read.
To be honest, I don't know enough about Kosher. I think it's basically the same as Halal in the conditions of the animal and method of slaughter, but there will be posters such as S 8 GRN who know much more than I do about it!Could the UK not simply insist on adherence to our own animal slaughter rules without infringing somewhat ancient minority rules? They do seem to be compatible as far as I have read.
One major difference between Kosher and Halal is the licensing of the ability to put a Kosher stamp on something. Big money at stake.
Orig Post is more a principle thing.
Irritating and wrong in workplace, ok in a restaurant though.
On a lighter note, my wife has some friends that don't eat pork, at a recent party I cut out little pink pigs and attatched them to toothpics and stuck them in the dishes they should avoid. They thought it was funny and were certainly not offended.
Orig Post is more a principle thing.
Irritating and wrong in workplace, ok in a restaurant though.
On a lighter note, my wife has some friends that don't eat pork, at a recent party I cut out little pink pigs and attatched them to toothpics and stuck them in the dishes they should avoid. They thought it was funny and were certainly not offended.
Ninjaboy said:
Roger645 said:
I think if most people saw the welfare of the animals of general supermarket meat prior to their slaughter Halal would be the least of their worries.
No matter how you dress it up slaughter is not a pretty thing. I would be interested to know of how many of the anti Halal brigade eat game?
The op wants to have a choice that the point of the tread, if it were the other way around there out be an outcry about lack of choice/ religous freedom. I would be very unhappy about having to eat Halal meat as it's from a faith i don't follow and i think it's cruel i can't see anyway it can be dressed up as anything diffrent.No matter how you dress it up slaughter is not a pretty thing. I would be interested to know of how many of the anti Halal brigade eat game?
but have no other option) but to eat meat that has been preyed upon by a religion of which I do not follow. When in Rome do as the Romans...
I wouldn't go to another country and ask them to change how they prepare their meat, or how they dress, clean their teeth, drive their car etc.
Ry_B said:
My point exactly. If it was the other way round there would be an outcry. Why should I be forced (well not quite forced but have no other option) but to eat meat that has been preyed upon by a religion of which I do not follow.
It is, more often than not the other way round, in the majority of this country and there is no outcry. I grew up in a county and went to a school where there was no such option. It was not an issue for my family, but for those that did value this, they made their own arrangements for food. I have friends who keep Halal and friends who keep Kosher, none of them cause 'an outcry'. but have no other option) but to eat meat that has been preyed upon by a religion of which I do not follow. Ry_B said:
Ninjaboy said:
Roger645 said:
I think if most people saw the welfare of the animals of general supermarket meat prior to their slaughter Halal would be the least of their worries.
No matter how you dress it up slaughter is not a pretty thing. I would be interested to know of how many of the anti Halal brigade eat game?
The op wants to have a choice that the point of the tread, if it were the other way around there out be an outcry about lack of choice/ religous freedom. I would be very unhappy about having to eat Halal meat as it's from a faith i don't follow and i think it's cruel i can't see anyway it can be dressed up as anything diffrent.No matter how you dress it up slaughter is not a pretty thing. I would be interested to know of how many of the anti Halal brigade eat game?
but have no other option) but to eat meat that has been preyed upon by a religion of which I do not follow. When in Rome do as the Romans...
I wouldn't go to another country and ask them to change how they prepare their meat, or how they dress, clean their teeth, drive their car etc.
Ry_B said:
Ninjaboy said:
Roger645 said:
I think if most people saw the welfare of the animals of general supermarket meat prior to their slaughter Halal would be the least of their worries.
No matter how you dress it up slaughter is not a pretty thing. I would be interested to know of how many of the anti Halal brigade eat game?
The op wants to have a choice that the point of the tread, if it were the other way around there out be an outcry about lack of choice/ religous freedom. I would be very unhappy about having to eat Halal meat as it's from a faith i don't follow and i think it's cruel i can't see anyway it can be dressed up as anything diffrent.No matter how you dress it up slaughter is not a pretty thing. I would be interested to know of how many of the anti Halal brigade eat game?
but have no other option) but to eat meat that has been preyed upon by a religion of which I do not follow. When in Rome do as the Romans...
I wouldn't go to another country and ask them to change how they prepare their meat, or how they dress, clean their teeth, drive their car etc.
If 75% of your workforce was vegetarian, and the kitchens decided not to bother making a meat dish every day as there simply wasn't demand or it wasn't viable, or the wholesalers wouldn't sell them such a small amount of meat or similar how would you feel?
It's simply a market responding to supply and Demand, much the reason why KFC now have 21 Halal stores in the UK, they see that there is a demand for a product, and they will fulfil it where legal.
Do you smoke weed or something? As you seem a bit paranoid.
Also I will be surprised if you haven't eaten Halal food without realising it a few times.
Edited by jamoor on Wednesday 25th November 23:31
jamoor said:
Also I will be surprised if you haven't eaten Halal food without realising it a few times.
Oh, I try to ensure that I do not by simply looking out for this odious symbol on menus and on fliers posted weekly through my letterbox: http://al-aqabah.com/images/Halal%20logo.jpgIt's incredible how many 'genuine Italian' takeaways contain that religious symbolism on their leaflets which I abhor.
Please look out for it and do not buy anything from these parasites.
kenny Chim 4 said:
jamoor said:
Also I will be surprised if you haven't eaten Halal food without realising it a few times.
Oh, I try to ensure that I do not by simply looking out for this odious symbol on menus and on fliers posted weekly through my letterbox: http://al-aqabah.com/images/Halal%20logo.jpgIt's incredible how many 'genuine Italian' takeaways contain that religious symbolism on their leaflets which I abhor.
Please look out for it and do not buy anything from these parasites.
Ry_B said:
Ninjaboy said:
Roger645 said:
I think if most people saw the welfare of the animals of general supermarket meat prior to their slaughter Halal would be the least of their worries.
No matter how you dress it up slaughter is not a pretty thing. I would be interested to know of how many of the anti Halal brigade eat game?
The op wants to have a choice that the point of the tread, if it were the other way around there out be an outcry about lack of choice/ religous freedom. I would be very unhappy about having to eat Halal meat as it's from a faith i don't follow and i think it's cruel i can't see anyway it can be dressed up as anything diffrent.No matter how you dress it up slaughter is not a pretty thing. I would be interested to know of how many of the anti Halal brigade eat game?
but have no other option) but to eat meat that has been preyed upon by a religion of which I do not follow. When in Rome do as the Romans...
I wouldn't go to another country and ask them to change how they prepare their meat, or how they dress, clean their teeth, drive their car etc.
Ry-B are you really that dim? First of all, many many places both work canteens and takeaways serve only non halal meat. The staff canteen at Thorpe Park sold only non halal, the vast majority of lunch places in Soho are not halal. My muslim colleagues in either place will just bring food from home or eat vege/ fish. The notion of there being an outcry is absurd.
Secondly, on the issue of your work place canteen, surely it is simply supply and demand. Doing halal means 75% can use the canteen along with a sizeable amount of the remaining 25% who aren't too fussed. Do non halal only and immedieately you've put off 3/4 of the workforce. Doing both is not really feasible I imagine and is still likely to put of a proportion of your 75%. Simple commercial sense.
Also 968 and 4nonymous, the majority of curry places in Hounslow and Southall aren't halal. Both are far better then the cack served in Brick Lane. BL is full of Bangladeshi run places puporting to be Indian. Been to a few places along there and the food is a joke compared to the Indian food you can find in Southall, Hounslow, Wembley, Harrow etc.
jamoor said:
jamoor said:
You do know that not all halal food has that symbol on it? I have seen it a few times, example Chicken products in Costco are generally Halal, as are the Hot Dogs in the cafe, but they don't mention it anywhere.
Should that be true, then it is disgusting. As you can imagine, I would never, nor have, visited such a place. kenny Chim 4 said:
jamoor said:
jamoor said:
You do know that not all halal food has that symbol on it? I have seen it a few times, example Chicken products in Costco are generally Halal, as are the Hot Dogs in the cafe, but they don't mention it anywhere.
Should that be true, then it is disgusting. As you can imagine, I would never, nor have, visited such a place. You will probbably eat it more often than you think, you just don't know it, costco appears to be the last place you would expect to have alot of halal food.
Edited by jamoor on Thursday 26th November 01:05
kenny Chim 4 said:
Should that be true, then it is disgusting. As you can imagine, I would never, nor have, visited such a place.
Anyway its simple business. The workplace canteen is there to make money, not because the boss loves you but simply to make sure that if you are going to spend money on your lunch then better doing it in house rather than out.
If 75% of the workforce eat halal meat then it makes sense to make sure it is on the menu so that this 75% is chattered for and the likely of this 75% spending dinner money off site is reduced. If 75% of the workforce were serial bacon munchers then it would make sense to make sure there is plenty of bacon there even to the point were you risk losing the 25% who aren't bacon munchers. Nothing to do with outcry, religion or PC. It's business.
Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 26th November 01:05
H_Kan said:
Ry_B said:
Ninjaboy said:
Roger645 said:
I think if most people saw the welfare of the animals of general supermarket meat prior to their slaughter Halal would be the least of their worries.
No matter how you dress it up slaughter is not a pretty thing. I would be interested to know of how many of the anti Halal brigade eat game?
The op wants to have a choice that the point of the tread, if it were the other way around there out be an outcry about lack of choice/ religous freedom. I would be very unhappy about having to eat Halal meat as it's from a faith i don't follow and i think it's cruel i can't see anyway it can be dressed up as anything diffrent.No matter how you dress it up slaughter is not a pretty thing. I would be interested to know of how many of the anti Halal brigade eat game?
but have no other option) but to eat meat that has been preyed upon by a religion of which I do not follow. When in Rome do as the Romans...
I wouldn't go to another country and ask them to change how they prepare their meat, or how they dress, clean their teeth, drive their car etc.
Ry-B are you really that dim? First of all, many many places both work canteens and takeaways serve only non halal meat. The staff canteen at Thorpe Park sold only non halal, the vast majority of lunch places in Soho are not halal. My muslim colleagues in either place will just bring food from home or eat vege/ fish. The notion of there being an outcry is absurd.
Secondly, on the issue of your work place canteen, surely it is simply supply and demand. Doing halal means 75% can use the canteen along with a sizeable amount of the remaining 25% who aren't too fussed. Do non halal only and immedieately you've put off 3/4 of the workforce. Doing both is not really feasible I imagine and is still likely to put of a proportion of your 75%. Simple commercial sense.
Also 968 and 4nonymous, the majority of curry places in Hounslow and Southall aren't halal. Both are far better then the cack served in Brick Lane. BL is full of Bangladeshi run places puporting to be Indian. Been to a few places along there and the food is a joke compared to the Indian food you can find in Southall, Hounslow, Wembley, Harrow etc.
What's your favourite place in Southall?
Shaid GTB said:
kenny Chim 4 said:
Should that be true, then it is disgusting. As you can imagine, I would never, nor have, visited such a place.
Anyway its simple business. The workplace canteen is there to make money, not because the boss loves you but simply to make sure that if you are going to spend money on your lunch then better doing it in house rather than out.
If 75% of the workforce eat halal meat then it makes sense to make sure it is on the menu so that this 75% is chattered for and the likely of this 75% spending dinner money off site is reduced. If 75% of the workforce were serial bacon munchers then it would make sense to make sure there is plenty of bacon there even to the point were you risk losing the 25% who aren't bacon munchers. Nothing to do with outcry, religion or PC. It's business.
Edited by Shaid GTB on Thursday 26th November 01:05
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