iHalal food - what if you are against it?
Discussion
kenny Chim 4 said:
Shaid GTB said:
kenny Chim 4 said:
Should that be true, then it is disgusting. As you can imagine, I would never, nor have, visited such a place.
Anyway its simple business. The workplace canteen is there to make money, not because the boss loves you but simply to make sure that if you are going to spend money on your lunch then better doing it in house rather than out.
If 75% of the workforce eat halal meat then it makes sense to make sure it is on the menu so that this 75% is chattered for and the likely of this 75% spending dinner money off site is reduced. If 75% of the workforce were serial bacon munchers then it would make sense to make sure there is plenty of bacon there even to the point were you risk losing the 25% who aren't bacon munchers. Nothing to do with outcry, religion or PC. It's business.
Edited by Shaid GTB on Thursday 26th November 01:05
eh?He basically said you're a moron ( +1 ) and that it is simply down to supply and demeand. Simple business at the end of the day.
kenny Chim 4 said:
Ok, so it's all down to this thing called 'demeand' and, yes, it is the end of the day.
Bang on there, you see, at the end of the day we all need to look at the demeand and see whether at the end of the day you can actually supply the main part of your employees because at the end of the day that is whats going to get you the most business from the demeand at the end of the day.Edited by kenny Chim 4 on Thursday 26th November 01:15
H_Kan said:
Before I start, no I'm not muslim, I'm actually a vege Hindu.
Ry-B are you really that dim? First of all, many many places both work canteens and takeaways serve only non halal meat. The staff canteen at Thorpe Park sold only non halal, the vast majority of lunch places in Soho are not halal. My muslim colleagues in either place will just bring food from home or eat vege/ fish. The notion of there being an outcry is absurd.
Secondly, on the issue of your work place canteen, surely it is simply supply and demand. Doing halal means 75% can use the canteen along with a sizeable amount of the remaining 25% who aren't too fussed. Do non halal only and immedieately you've put off 3/4 of the workforce. Doing both is not really feasible I imagine and is still likely to put of a proportion of your 75%. Simple commercial sense.
Yep, pretty on the money really and frankly common sense. Sad that people are so prejudiced that they would actually censor their eating habits based on their prejudices of people. Ry-B are you really that dim? First of all, many many places both work canteens and takeaways serve only non halal meat. The staff canteen at Thorpe Park sold only non halal, the vast majority of lunch places in Soho are not halal. My muslim colleagues in either place will just bring food from home or eat vege/ fish. The notion of there being an outcry is absurd.
Secondly, on the issue of your work place canteen, surely it is simply supply and demand. Doing halal means 75% can use the canteen along with a sizeable amount of the remaining 25% who aren't too fussed. Do non halal only and immedieately you've put off 3/4 of the workforce. Doing both is not really feasible I imagine and is still likely to put of a proportion of your 75%. Simple commercial sense.
H_Kan said:
Also 968 and 4nonymous, the majority of curry places in Hounslow and Southall aren't halal. Both are far better then the cack served in Brick Lane. BL is full of Bangladeshi run places puporting to be Indian. Been to a few places along there and the food is a joke compared to the Indian food you can find in Southall, Hounslow, Wembley, Harrow etc.
Oooh now here's contention. 
Most of the places I've been to in Southall are Halal, actually. The food is OK. Brick Lane is cack, I quite agree, however the food in Southall isn't all that amazing either, certainly no better than Tayyabs or many of the other Whitechapel/Tooting establishments, however, I'm a meatarian, so I can't speak of the veggie stuff! So in this regard, Southall probably is much better in that regard.... mind you have to tried that place on Drummond Street (the Veggie one)?To the OP,
as someone else stated, works canteens are provided as a benefit to the employees and are often subsidised. They are rarely run as profit making ventures. It is not acceptable that you should have to partake in somebody elses medieval religious ritual if you want to eat meat in the canteen.
You haven't explained the size of the organisation, whether it is public or private sector etc. You really do need to take it up with your employer or HR department. It is quite possible that in their eagerness to placate the Muslim employees they have overlooked the fact that they are excluding and offending many others that will not eat or be in the vicinity of halal as a point of principle or as part of their personal or religious beliefs. You will find that there are many other people with similar views to yourself.
It really is up to you to raise it through the appropriate channels. Imagine if the situation were reversed, and then take a leaf out of the Muslim communities book as guidance.
Finally, I'm intrigued as to how the majority Muslim employees will react. It's always educational and predictable when the Muslim community are asked to display any consideration for the sensibility and sensitivities of others, especially when they are the majority.
Good luck and let us know how you get on.
PP
as someone else stated, works canteens are provided as a benefit to the employees and are often subsidised. They are rarely run as profit making ventures. It is not acceptable that you should have to partake in somebody elses medieval religious ritual if you want to eat meat in the canteen.
You haven't explained the size of the organisation, whether it is public or private sector etc. You really do need to take it up with your employer or HR department. It is quite possible that in their eagerness to placate the Muslim employees they have overlooked the fact that they are excluding and offending many others that will not eat or be in the vicinity of halal as a point of principle or as part of their personal or religious beliefs. You will find that there are many other people with similar views to yourself.
It really is up to you to raise it through the appropriate channels. Imagine if the situation were reversed, and then take a leaf out of the Muslim communities book as guidance.
Finally, I'm intrigued as to how the majority Muslim employees will react. It's always educational and predictable when the Muslim community are asked to display any consideration for the sensibility and sensitivities of others, especially when they are the majority.
Good luck and let us know how you get on.
PP
Pickled Piper said:
Imagine if the situation were reversed,
Finally, I'm intrigued as to how the majority Muslim employees will react. It's always educational and predictable when the Muslim community are asked to display any consideration for the sensibility and sensitivities of others, especially when they are the majority.
Good luck and let us know how you get on.
PP
Stop chatting out your arse,Finally, I'm intrigued as to how the majority Muslim employees will react. It's always educational and predictable when the Muslim community are asked to display any consideration for the sensibility and sensitivities of others, especially when they are the majority.
Good luck and let us know how you get on.
PP
What would happen if the sitation was reversed?
jamoor said:
Pickled Piper said:
Imagine if the situation were reversed,
Finally, I'm intrigued as to how the majority Muslim employees will react. It's always educational and predictable when the Muslim community are asked to display any consideration for the sensibility and sensitivities of others, especially when they are the majority.
Good luck and let us know how you get on.
PP
Stop chatting out your arse,Finally, I'm intrigued as to how the majority Muslim employees will react. It's always educational and predictable when the Muslim community are asked to display any consideration for the sensibility and sensitivities of others, especially when they are the majority.
Good luck and let us know how you get on.
PP
What would happen if the sitation was reversed?
Ninjaboy said:
jamoor said:
Pickled Piper said:
Imagine if the situation were reversed,
Finally, I'm intrigued as to how the majority Muslim employees will react. It's always educational and predictable when the Muslim community are asked to display any consideration for the sensibility and sensitivities of others, especially when they are the majority.
Good luck and let us know how you get on.
PP
Stop chatting out your arse,Finally, I'm intrigued as to how the majority Muslim employees will react. It's always educational and predictable when the Muslim community are asked to display any consideration for the sensibility and sensitivities of others, especially when they are the majority.
Good luck and let us know how you get on.
PP
What would happen if the sitation was reversed?
Pickled Piper said:
To the OP,
as someone else stated, works canteens are provided as a benefit to the employees and are often subsidised. They are rarely run as profit making ventures. It is not acceptable that you should have to partake in somebody elses medieval religious ritual if you want to eat meat in the canteen.
You haven't explained the size of the organisation, whether it is public or private sector etc. You really do need to take it up with your employer or HR department. It is quite possible that in their eagerness to placate the Muslim employees they have overlooked the fact that they are excluding and offending many others that will not eat or be in the vicinity of halal as a point of principle or as part of their personal or religious beliefs. You will find that there are many other people with similar views to yourself.
It really is up to you to raise it through the appropriate channels. Imagine if the situation were reversed, and then take a leaf out of the Muslim communities book as guidance.
Finally, I'm intrigued as to how the majority Muslim employees will react. It's always educational and predictable when the Muslim community are asked to display any consideration for the sensibility and sensitivities of others, especially when they are the majority.
Good luck and let us know how you get on.
PP
Wether you like it or not canteens are there to make money. If there is demand someone will supply and make money in the process. Why else would their prices rival some of the established sandwich shops out there? as someone else stated, works canteens are provided as a benefit to the employees and are often subsidised. They are rarely run as profit making ventures. It is not acceptable that you should have to partake in somebody elses medieval religious ritual if you want to eat meat in the canteen.
You haven't explained the size of the organisation, whether it is public or private sector etc. You really do need to take it up with your employer or HR department. It is quite possible that in their eagerness to placate the Muslim employees they have overlooked the fact that they are excluding and offending many others that will not eat or be in the vicinity of halal as a point of principle or as part of their personal or religious beliefs. You will find that there are many other people with similar views to yourself.
It really is up to you to raise it through the appropriate channels. Imagine if the situation were reversed, and then take a leaf out of the Muslim communities book as guidance.
Finally, I'm intrigued as to how the majority Muslim employees will react. It's always educational and predictable when the Muslim community are asked to display any consideration for the sensibility and sensitivities of others, especially when they are the majority.
Good luck and let us know how you get on.
PP
To answer the ops question the answer is nothing! If there is no halal food in the canteen Muslims would either go for the veggie option on the menu or go down the local chippy. For years there has not been halal food in various places. Was there any uproar, none that i heard of, but some clever bod realised there is a demand and hence supplied and they make money in the process. Yes the supply would have come from requests from Muslims. However I do believe that the canteen shouldn't ignore the needs of the other 25% as that would be the 'specialised/niche' market and this is where any good saleman will tell you that you get away with higher prices.
Finally you really do actually believe that Muslims have nothing better to do other than complain about things dont you. Well HELLO Moron! You only have to pick up some paper or browse some net forum to find people like you moaning and b
hing about every and any thing. Please keep your sarcastic prejudicial views and comments to yourself, they are not needed, wanted or appreciated. Go on some other forum and spread your disease but not here.Shaid GTB said:
Pickled Piper said:
To the OP,
as someone else stated, works canteens are provided as a benefit to the employees and are often subsidised. They are rarely run as profit making ventures. It is not acceptable that you should have to partake in somebody elses medieval religious ritual if you want to eat meat in the canteen.
You haven't explained the size of the organisation, whether it is public or private sector etc. You really do need to take it up with your employer or HR department. It is quite possible that in their eagerness to placate the Muslim employees they have overlooked the fact that they are excluding and offending many others that will not eat or be in the vicinity of halal as a point of principle or as part of their personal or religious beliefs. You will find that there are many other people with similar views to yourself.
It really is up to you to raise it through the appropriate channels. Imagine if the situation were reversed, and then take a leaf out of the Muslim communities book as guidance.
Finally, I'm intrigued as to how the majority Muslim employees will react. It's always educational and predictable when the Muslim community are asked to display any consideration for the sensibility and sensitivities of others, especially when they are the majority.
Good luck and let us know how you get on.
PP
Wether you like it or not canteens are there to make money. If there is demand someone will supply and make money in the process. Why else would their prices rival some of the established sandwich shops out there? as someone else stated, works canteens are provided as a benefit to the employees and are often subsidised. They are rarely run as profit making ventures. It is not acceptable that you should have to partake in somebody elses medieval religious ritual if you want to eat meat in the canteen.
You haven't explained the size of the organisation, whether it is public or private sector etc. You really do need to take it up with your employer or HR department. It is quite possible that in their eagerness to placate the Muslim employees they have overlooked the fact that they are excluding and offending many others that will not eat or be in the vicinity of halal as a point of principle or as part of their personal or religious beliefs. You will find that there are many other people with similar views to yourself.
It really is up to you to raise it through the appropriate channels. Imagine if the situation were reversed, and then take a leaf out of the Muslim communities book as guidance.
Finally, I'm intrigued as to how the majority Muslim employees will react. It's always educational and predictable when the Muslim community are asked to display any consideration for the sensibility and sensitivities of others, especially when they are the majority.
Good luck and let us know how you get on.
PP
To answer the ops question the answer is nothing! If there is no halal food in the canteen Muslims would either go for the veggie option on the menu or go down the local chippy. For years there has not been halal food in various places. Was there any uproar, none that i heard of, but some clever bod realised there is a demand and hence supplied and they make money in the process. Yes the supply would have come from requests from Muslims. However I do believe that the canteen shouldn't ignore the needs of the other 25% as that would be the 'specialised/niche' market and this is where any good saleman will tell you that you get away with higher prices.
Finally you really do actually believe that Muslims have nothing better to do other than complain about things dont you. Well HELLO Moron! You only have to pick up some paper or browse some net forum to find people like you moaning and b
hing about every and any thing. Please keep your sarcastic prejudicial views and comments to yourself, they are not needed, wanted or appreciated. Go on some other forum and spread your disease but not here.Ninjaboy said:
Shaid GTB said:
Pickled Piper said:
To the OP,
as someone else stated, works canteens are provided as a benefit to the employees and are often subsidised. They are rarely run as profit making ventures. It is not acceptable that you should have to partake in somebody elses medieval religious ritual if you want to eat meat in the canteen.
You haven't explained the size of the organisation, whether it is public or private sector etc. You really do need to take it up with your employer or HR department. It is quite possible that in their eagerness to placate the Muslim employees they have overlooked the fact that they are excluding and offending many others that will not eat or be in the vicinity of halal as a point of principle or as part of their personal or religious beliefs. You will find that there are many other people with similar views to yourself.
It really is up to you to raise it through the appropriate channels. Imagine if the situation were reversed, and then take a leaf out of the Muslim communities book as guidance.
Finally, I'm intrigued as to how the majority Muslim employees will react. It's always educational and predictable when the Muslim community are asked to display any consideration for the sensibility and sensitivities of others, especially when they are the majority.
Good luck and let us know how you get on.
PP
Wether you like it or not canteens are there to make money. If there is demand someone will supply and make money in the process. Why else would their prices rival some of the established sandwich shops out there? as someone else stated, works canteens are provided as a benefit to the employees and are often subsidised. They are rarely run as profit making ventures. It is not acceptable that you should have to partake in somebody elses medieval religious ritual if you want to eat meat in the canteen.
You haven't explained the size of the organisation, whether it is public or private sector etc. You really do need to take it up with your employer or HR department. It is quite possible that in their eagerness to placate the Muslim employees they have overlooked the fact that they are excluding and offending many others that will not eat or be in the vicinity of halal as a point of principle or as part of their personal or religious beliefs. You will find that there are many other people with similar views to yourself.
It really is up to you to raise it through the appropriate channels. Imagine if the situation were reversed, and then take a leaf out of the Muslim communities book as guidance.
Finally, I'm intrigued as to how the majority Muslim employees will react. It's always educational and predictable when the Muslim community are asked to display any consideration for the sensibility and sensitivities of others, especially when they are the majority.
Good luck and let us know how you get on.
PP
To answer the ops question the answer is nothing! If there is no halal food in the canteen Muslims would either go for the veggie option on the menu or go down the local chippy. For years there has not been halal food in various places. Was there any uproar, none that i heard of, but some clever bod realised there is a demand and hence supplied and they make money in the process. Yes the supply would have come from requests from Muslims. However I do believe that the canteen shouldn't ignore the needs of the other 25% as that would be the 'specialised/niche' market and this is where any good saleman will tell you that you get away with higher prices.
Finally you really do actually believe that Muslims have nothing better to do other than complain about things dont you. Well HELLO Moron! You only have to pick up some paper or browse some net forum to find people like you moaning and b
hing about every and any thing. Please keep your sarcastic prejudicial views and comments to yourself, they are not needed, wanted or appreciated. Go on some other forum and spread your disease but not here.Ninjaboy said:
Fairly typical response, someone has an opinion on Islam that might not be totally PC or challenges why the majority of the uk should bend over backward to accept their laws/belifes and you call them a moron and a racist.
Actually no. I grew up in an area with little Halal meat available, my parents still live there, and things haven't changed tremendously. No one made or makes any attempt to force their agenda. Those who felt it was important to eat halal (exactly like Jews who keep Kosher) just ate veggie/fish, and there was and is no fuss. I think the poster you responded to has a singular inability to debate on a rational level consequently his response was uncalled for, however your point is actually rather sensationalist which is not a surprise given the media hysteria surrounding such issues.
Shaid GTB said:
Finally you really do actually believe that Muslims have nothing better to do other than complain about things dont you. Well HELLO Moron! You only have to pick up some paper or browse some net forum to find people like you moaning and bhing about every and any thing. Please keep your sarcastic prejudicial views and comments to yourself, they are not needed, wanted or appreciated. Go on some other forum and spread your disease but not here.
You said " Well HELLO Moron" and then decide to tell him hing about every and any thing. Please keep your sarcastic prejudicial views and comments to yourself, they are not needed, wanted or appreciated. Go on some other forum and spread your disease but not here."Please keep your sarcastic prejudicial views and comments to yourself, they are not needed, wanted or appreciated"
Rather ironic isn't it telling him not to do what you just did.
But I guess it's ok for you to do it isn't it?
Andy
Islam is a tolerant faith and the West has it all wrong .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XcSQJSOab8&fea...
(Jews are apes, Christians are pigs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XcSQJSOab8&fea...
(Jews are apes, Christians are pigs)
Marquis_Rex said:
Islam is a tolerant faith and the West has it all wrong .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XcSQJSOab8&fea...
(Jews are apes, Christians are pigs)
Still crying, or is that trolling? Branching out into new forums to spread hatred and prejudice eh?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XcSQJSOab8&fea...
(Jews are apes, Christians are pigs)
zakelwe said:
Shaid GTB said:
Finally you really do actually believe that Muslims have nothing better to do other than complain about things dont you. Well HELLO Moron! You only have to pick up some paper or browse some net forum to find people like you moaning and bhing about every and any thing. Please keep your sarcastic prejudicial views and comments to yourself, they are not needed, wanted or appreciated. Go on some other forum and spread your disease but not here.
You said " Well HELLO Moron" and then decide to tell him hing about every and any thing. Please keep your sarcastic prejudicial views and comments to yourself, they are not needed, wanted or appreciated. Go on some other forum and spread your disease but not here."Please keep your sarcastic prejudicial views and comments to yourself, they are not needed, wanted or appreciated"
Rather ironic isn't it telling him not to do what you just did.
But I guess it's ok for you to do it isn't it?
Andy
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