Gordon's Great Escape (in India)
Discussion
It was ok I thought, but felt fairly staged. The backpack thing was nonsensical. I have spent a lot of time there and went through the slums a couple of times about seven years ago. What it true is how generous,friendly and hospitable people are when they accept you, no matter how poor. There is also a huge regional variation in the food.
What really surprised me was his horsing around in fairly dirty water and not getting a major intestinal bug. I am usually very careful abdout water and street food there.He was obviously in his element at the TAj, though that really felt much more conventional.
What really surprised me was his horsing around in fairly dirty water and not getting a major intestinal bug. I am usually very careful abdout water and street food there.He was obviously in his element at the TAj, though that really felt much more conventional.
I sort of liked it, but it was all a bit too 'look at me' .. even down to the little pic before the adverts showing GR in 3 great escape cameos .. and he had to take his shirt off at every available opportunity. And his use of the 'f' ford was just, well, totally incongruous in some of the situations.
Agree about the backpack .. how patronising!
Agree about the backpack .. how patronising!
t, fSort of enjoyable - watched them all anyway. I think it was India I was enjoying rather than Ramsey though.
Agree about the swearing. Just seemed really out of place and inappropriate. I was interested to see if he curbed it while he was there. As he didn't I do believe he has some kind of problem whereby he swears involuntarily. Which is interesting in itself.
Rick Stein is much easier to watch when doing the travelling chef thing. You can be sure he's not going to try and challenge someone to a pull up competition just because he couldn't stick it in the kitchen. Gordon's actual willy waving must have been edited out (thankfully).
Agree about the swearing. Just seemed really out of place and inappropriate. I was interested to see if he curbed it while he was there. As he didn't I do believe he has some kind of problem whereby he swears involuntarily. Which is interesting in itself.
Rick Stein is much easier to watch when doing the travelling chef thing. You can be sure he's not going to try and challenge someone to a pull up competition just because he couldn't stick it in the kitchen. Gordon's actual willy waving must have been edited out (thankfully).
Bullett said:
my big issue with GR's programs is that he repeats himself so much. Too much coming up after the break and previously and another recap. An hour program is 30 minutes without the recaps and ads.
Noticed this on f-word and kitchen nightmares. is he catering to the us market here?
Not limited to this show, whatever it is.Noticed this on f-word and kitchen nightmares. is he catering to the us market here?
It's prevalent in many of the low-tech mass-market pap produced recently. Really irks me.
Well, it is a cooking show, so I will generally watch it, even if I don't like the presenter. I feel that food is their profession, so there are things to learn from them.
Jamie Oliver's USA thing (who I don't like), was better, as he went more into the food, culture, and the people. I still wouldn't buy his book - have bought two, and I don't really like them as they always have recipes with a Jamie twist, as I guess he feels that he must.
But in the USA series, I found the mexican and bbq cookoff very intesting, and inspired me to find out more, so Jamie isn't all bad!
As for Gordon's offering, I felt it was more about Gordon Ramsey Inc, than Indian people/culture/food, which was glossed over. The train kitchen was interesting, but he moans about the conditions, and then has to do the pull up challenge - why? And the swearing, why?
They could have gone into more depth at the Indian wedding, but the focus was on a whole goat. When it comes to serving, Gordon stands at the background and barks "Next!" at the guests - you are in another culture, not a school dining room in Britan!
One of the Indian/British TV comedy blokes did a series on India a year or so ago, and covered a wedding feast better, and his wasn't a food program.
And the setups were just where tacky. Train breaks down, so he goes outside and makes snide comments to the Indian train driver/engineer. He sits outside, with the camera man, but the train pulls off without warning (yeah right), and he has to run onto a moving train, but the camera man is onboard first, and has the shot.... He rides a motorbike (no helmet, bit risky), and stalls at a railway crossing, where there is a cameraman setup with the perfect shot (geee!), but then we hear honking, but the gates are still down for about 30 seconds - post production me thinks...
In the F Word this series he went all action man, and with this, he just kept going.
Floyd did it better (and Stein too)- I saw one of his show from his Indian series made about 8 years ago recently, which actually went into depth of the food!
And breath.........
Jamie Oliver's USA thing (who I don't like), was better, as he went more into the food, culture, and the people. I still wouldn't buy his book - have bought two, and I don't really like them as they always have recipes with a Jamie twist, as I guess he feels that he must.
But in the USA series, I found the mexican and bbq cookoff very intesting, and inspired me to find out more, so Jamie isn't all bad!
As for Gordon's offering, I felt it was more about Gordon Ramsey Inc, than Indian people/culture/food, which was glossed over. The train kitchen was interesting, but he moans about the conditions, and then has to do the pull up challenge - why? And the swearing, why?
They could have gone into more depth at the Indian wedding, but the focus was on a whole goat. When it comes to serving, Gordon stands at the background and barks "Next!" at the guests - you are in another culture, not a school dining room in Britan!
One of the Indian/British TV comedy blokes did a series on India a year or so ago, and covered a wedding feast better, and his wasn't a food program.
And the setups were just where tacky. Train breaks down, so he goes outside and makes snide comments to the Indian train driver/engineer. He sits outside, with the camera man, but the train pulls off without warning (yeah right), and he has to run onto a moving train, but the camera man is onboard first, and has the shot.... He rides a motorbike (no helmet, bit risky), and stalls at a railway crossing, where there is a cameraman setup with the perfect shot (geee!), but then we hear honking, but the gates are still down for about 30 seconds - post production me thinks...
In the F Word this series he went all action man, and with this, he just kept going.
Floyd did it better (and Stein too)- I saw one of his show from his Indian series made about 8 years ago recently, which actually went into depth of the food!
And breath.........
LordGrover said:
Bullett said:
my big issue with GR's programs is that he repeats himself so much. Too much coming up after the break and previously and another recap. An hour program is 30 minutes without the recaps and ads.
Noticed this on f-word and kitchen nightmares. is he catering to the us market here?
Not limited to this show, whatever it is.Noticed this on f-word and kitchen nightmares. is he catering to the us market here?
It's prevalent in many of the low-tech mass-market pap produced recently. Really irks me.
smack said:
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As for Gordon's offering, I felt it was more about Gordon Ramsey Inc, than Indian people/culture/food, which was glossed over. The train kitchen was interesting, but he moans about the conditions, and then has to do the pull up challenge - why? And the swearing, why?
They could have gone into more depth at the Indian wedding, but the focus was on a whole goat. When it comes to serving, Gordon stands at the background and barks "Next!" at the guests - you are in another culture, not a school dining room in Britan!
One of the Indian/British TV comedy blokes did a series on India a year or so ago, and covered a wedding feast better, and his wasn't a food program.
And the setups were just where tacky. Train breaks down, so he goes outside and makes snide comments to the Indian train driver/engineer. He sits outside, with the camera man, but the train pulls off without warning (yeah right), and he has to run onto a moving train, but the camera man is onboard first, and has the shot.... He rides a motorbike (no helmet, bit risky), and stalls at a railway crossing, where there is a cameraman setup with the perfect shot (geee!), but then we hear honking, but the gates are still down for about 30 seconds - post production me thinks...
In the F Word this series he went all action man, and with this, he just kept going.
Floyd did it better (and Stein too)- I saw one of his show from his Indian series made about 8 years ago recently, which actually went into depth of the food!
.........
It was about Gordon. Gordon, Gordon. He has peaked, and the only way is down.As for Gordon's offering, I felt it was more about Gordon Ramsey Inc, than Indian people/culture/food, which was glossed over. The train kitchen was interesting, but he moans about the conditions, and then has to do the pull up challenge - why? And the swearing, why?
They could have gone into more depth at the Indian wedding, but the focus was on a whole goat. When it comes to serving, Gordon stands at the background and barks "Next!" at the guests - you are in another culture, not a school dining room in Britan!
One of the Indian/British TV comedy blokes did a series on India a year or so ago, and covered a wedding feast better, and his wasn't a food program.
And the setups were just where tacky. Train breaks down, so he goes outside and makes snide comments to the Indian train driver/engineer. He sits outside, with the camera man, but the train pulls off without warning (yeah right), and he has to run onto a moving train, but the camera man is onboard first, and has the shot.... He rides a motorbike (no helmet, bit risky), and stalls at a railway crossing, where there is a cameraman setup with the perfect shot (geee!), but then we hear honking, but the gates are still down for about 30 seconds - post production me thinks...
In the F Word this series he went all action man, and with this, he just kept going.
Floyd did it better (and Stein too)- I saw one of his show from his Indian series made about 8 years ago recently, which actually went into depth of the food!
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