Top Contender for "I Just Don't Get it..."?

Top Contender for "I Just Don't Get it..."?

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slopes

38,831 posts

188 months

Tuesday 15th February 2022
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Reggae
Rap
Radiohead
Oasis - in fact anything featuring the Gallagher brothers
Thom Yorke
Paul Weller
Morrisey - bell end

Magnum 475

3,551 posts

133 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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Anything featuring 'Autotune'.

If you can't f**king sing, don't try to be a f**king singer. Go do something you can do. The latest trend seems to be to take someone who looks good, get them to 'sing', then use electronics to make it sound acceptable. People actually buy this s**t that's made by people with looks but no talent.

There are one or two vids on Youtube of singers with / without autotune - most of them are shockingly bad singers. In fact, calling them 'singers' is an insult to people who can actually sing.

Don1

15,951 posts

209 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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Magnum 475 said:
Anything featuring 'Autotune'.

If you can't f**king sing, don't try to be a f**king singer. Go do something you can do. The latest trend seems to be to take someone who looks good, get them to 'sing', then use electronics to make it sound acceptable. People actually buy this s**t that's made by people with looks but no talent.

There are one or two vids on Youtube of singers with / without autotune - most of them are shockingly bad singers. In fact, calling them 'singers' is an insult to people who can actually sing.
I was coming here to write exactly this.

Cher has a lot to answer for hehe

Magnum 475

3,551 posts

133 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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Don1 said:
Magnum 475 said:
Anything featuring 'Autotune'.

If you can't f**king sing, don't try to be a f**king singer. Go do something you can do. The latest trend seems to be to take someone who looks good, get them to 'sing', then use electronics to make it sound acceptable. People actually buy this s**t that's made by people with looks but no talent.

There are one or two vids on Youtube of singers with / without autotune - most of them are shockingly bad singers. In fact, calling them 'singers' is an insult to people who can actually sing.
I was coming here to write exactly this.

Cher has a lot to answer for hehe
She does - but it's moved on a lot since then. Autotune now is far more subtle, and far better able to imitate a real voice. I've met people who think Becky G can sing and don't actually realise that she's totally auto-tuned! It must limit the scope of their 'live' performances though.


Stan the Bat

8,935 posts

213 months

Thursday 17th February 2022
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Can auto-tune not be used in a live situation ?

Magnum 475

3,551 posts

133 months

Friday 18th February 2022
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Stan the Bat said:
Can auto-tune not be used in a live situation ?
I genuinely don't know. I've always assumed not, as it has to be able to correct pitch, tone, and vocal quality. I've always assumed it's applied to a recorded vocal by someone who's got an idea of what the song is supposed to sound like. When you listen to just how much work autotune is doing to some of our latest 'singers', I'd be surprised if it could do it in a live concert. But maybe it's moved to the point where it can - not sure.

Here's an example with Becky G who I mentioned a couple of posts ago...



Autotune is having to do a lot of work to correct what little vocal ability she has.


Edited by Magnum 475 on Friday 18th February 08:15

gazza285

9,824 posts

209 months

Friday 18th February 2022
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Stan the Bat said:
Can auto-tune not be used in a live situation ?
I do know of one popular beat combo that play to a backing track, said backing track has the vocals on it as the singer just cannot cut it in a live situation.

That’s one band that has certainly embraced the technology available…

Bullett

10,889 posts

185 months

Friday 18th February 2022
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Autotune can work in a number of ways, in the studio it can be tweaked endlessly to get what you want. In a live situation it just has to work, this is why you get those videos of singers sounding awful live, the autotune has failed.

When you play with autotune it modifies the tone to be what it should be, that can be based on a 'guess' the device listens to the audio and works out what it should be or it can be based on a pre-programed sequence or sometimes a direct feed of info in real-time such as midi data (note information).
I use a TC Helicon Mic Mechanic, it will move me by a semitone if I'm off live. Hard to hear yourself at a pub gig sometimes.

Stan the Bat

8,935 posts

213 months

Friday 18th February 2022
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gazza285 said:
Stan the Bat said:
Can auto-tune not be used in a live situation ?
I do know of one popular beat combo that play to a backing track, said backing track has the vocals on it as the singer just cannot cut it in a live situation.

That’s one band that has certainly embraced the technology available…
Not really a 'backing track' then.

More a miming thing. music

gazza285

9,824 posts

209 months

Saturday 19th February 2022
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Stan the Bat said:
gazza285 said:
Stan the Bat said:
Can auto-tune not be used in a live situation ?
I do know of one popular beat combo that play to a backing track, said backing track has the vocals on it as the singer just cannot cut it in a live situation.

That’s one band that has certainly embraced the technology available…
Not really a 'backing track' then.

More a miming thing. music
They have embraced miming the vocals over a live band then. I have no idea if they embrace an auto tune in the studio though.

drab

420 posts

153 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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Florence + machine. Painful
Adele. Awful

Magnum 475

3,551 posts

133 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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drab said:
Adele. Awful
Adele. Hmmm. Attempts to sound soulful & emotive. Actually, just sounds constipated.


catso

14,791 posts

268 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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Magnum 475 said:
drab said:
Adele. Awful
Adele. Hmmm. Attempts to sound soulful & emotive. Actually, just sounds constipated.
She did a good James Bond song though, like Shirley Bassey but most unlike that abomination by Sam Smith - dreadful screeching sound that it was.

Gin and Ultrasonic

179 posts

40 months

Monday 21st February 2022
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Kendrick Lamar, who seems to be massively critically acclaimed for some unknown reason. His 'To Pimp a Butterfly' album is fusion of mumbled rap and the worst that free-form jazz has to offer from a 'rapper' who sounds like he's trying to rap in the deepest pretend voice he has while he waits for his voice to break. To be fair I only tried to listen to this album, but that was enough!

silverthorn2151

6,298 posts

180 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2022
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Elvis Presley

Can't stand a single thing about him. Immediate turn off.

dandarez

13,293 posts

284 months

Sunday 27th February 2022
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Sam Smith
I can't stand they.

Closely followed by that 'banjo' strummer, Head She Ran