Great debut albums

[P5BNij]

Nik da Greek said:

Spacemen 3's Sound of Confusion ... not actually even their best album but talk about creating genres!

Our 'local' band made good, haven't listened to that for years! Preferred 'Perfect Prescription' though, 'Feel So Good' is a stand out track for me on that album. The Spacemen were heavily influenced by the Velvet's debut LP, still one of my favourites...

[Nik da Greek]

Spacemen 3 are one of those bands where if you never saw them live, you've missed an absolute musical epiphany. I still have a little knot in my chest, twenty-odd years later, from experiencing Rollercoaster in a stty little dive of a club. When it stopped half the crowd nearly fell over cos there was nothing left to push against Admittedly, the Purple Oms might have had something to do with it ... Live in Europe 1989 is probably my favourite live album, ever.

It was funny seeing John Cale interviewed on that awful Hardtalk on the BBC news channel (which is something I'd normally avoid like the plague as Steven Sackur is a total arse-pot) but hearing Cale bemoaning Lou Reed wanting to "go back to making cute friendly folk music" just when the Velvets were on the brink of achieving something truly great was a bit weird. Cale said he lost interest at that point, but for me much of White Light White Heat descends into annoyingly unlistenable gibberish right in the middle of the best choons. Rather like all the pings and noodles Fripp insisted on spoiling King Crimson tracks with. The Velvet Underground and Nico is unarguably one of the greatest debut albums in any genre though. Such a shame

[Nik da Greek]

And because that was quite a boring post, and in the spirit of thread pollution... from the "best covers" thread... The Sisters' Sister Ray/Ghostrider

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhwIroLgtVo

[P5BNij]

Nik da Greek said:

Spacemen 3 are one of those bands where if you never saw them live, you've missed an absolute musical epiphany. I still have a little knot in my chest, twenty-odd years later, from experiencing Rollercoaster in a stty little dive of a club. When it stopped half the crowd nearly fell over cos there was nothing left to push against Admittedly, the Purple Oms might have had something to do with it ... Live in Europe 1989 is probably my favourite live album, ever.

It was funny seeing John Cale interviewed on that awful Hardtalk on the BBC news channel (which is something I'd normally avoid like the plague as Steven Sackur is a total arse-pot) but hearing Cale bemoaning Lou Reed wanting to "go back to making cute friendly folk music" just when the Velvets were on the brink of achieving something truly great was a bit weird. Cale said he lost interest at that point, but for me much of White Light White Heat descends into annoyingly unlistenable gibberish right in the middle of the best choons. Rather like all the pings and noodles Fripp insisted on spoiling King Crimson tracks with. The Velvet Underground and Nico is unarguably one of the greatest debut albums in any genre though. Such a shame

Saw Spacemen 3 locally several times and after their '91 split saw Pete Kember do a pub back room gig to promote his first solo LP. The pub isn't there anymore but it had a great atmosphere when bands were playing. Was at their last local gig when the 'Hipnotised' single was released, a cracking record that. Somewhere I have a very fuzzy VHS recording of their appearance on Rapido in '91, seems a lifetime ago now! Last I heard Pete was very busy in America doing oodles of soundtrack work, no surprise there really. Always enjoyed Jason's post- Spacemen stuff.

Amazing how good the Velvets still sound nearly fifty years on.

[popeyewhite]

This takes me back. Brilliant album. Good times.

[tr7ster]

Seven pages and nobody has mentioned SRV's Texas Flood yet?

I'll also nominate Skunk Anansie's Paranoid and Sunburnt. I remember seeing it advertised a few times in Kerrang but paid no attention, then when hearing they were going to be support at a gig I was going to thought I'd better check them out beforehand. Duly borrowing the CD from the local music library I took it home and listened to it from start to finish and was blown away. Their later efforts were good, but nothing matched the angry, vibrant assault of their debut. I think that can be at least partially attributed to having a different drummer from shortly after the album's release; while Mark Richardson is a fine player, for me he's never displayed the intensity or complexity that Robbie France did on P&S.

[vournikas]

LikesBikes said:

Don't think it's been mentioned?

Alanis Morissette - Jagged Little Pill

Great album!

Wordy, tuneful, angry, reflective in equal measures.

[marcosgt]

popeyewhite said:

This takes me back. Brilliant album. Good times.

Some great albums getting a mention here (Outlandos D'Amour brought back some memories), but this one 100%.

I'm going to throw in "Rattlesnakes" by Lloyd Cole and the Commotions too.



I played this album to death when I first got it and it's one of those albums I go back to time and time again. Oddly, after the second album I completely lost musical track of Lloyd Cole and it was only an idle trawl on Google that revealed he'd been making albums almost continuously.

This led me to go and see him perform live at Shepherd's Bush a couple of years ago, which was a brilliant evening and introduced me to a lot of great songs I'd never heard, but it was still the early "Rattlesnakes" songs that stood out.

M

[MarshPhantom]

P5BNij said:

Nik da Greek said:

Spacemen 3 are one of those bands where if you never saw them live, you've missed an absolute musical epiphany. I still have a little knot in my chest, twenty-odd years later, from experiencing Rollercoaster in a stty little dive of a club. When it stopped half the crowd nearly fell over cos there was nothing left to push against Admittedly, the Purple Oms might have had something to do with it ... Live in Europe 1989 is probably my favourite live album, ever.

It was funny seeing John Cale interviewed on that awful Hardtalk on the BBC news channel (which is something I'd normally avoid like the plague as Steven Sackur is a total arse-pot) but hearing Cale bemoaning Lou Reed wanting to "go back to making cute friendly folk music" just when the Velvets were on the brink of achieving something truly great was a bit weird. Cale said he lost interest at that point, but for me much of White Light White Heat descends into annoyingly unlistenable gibberish right in the middle of the best choons. Rather like all the pings and noodles Fripp insisted on spoiling King Crimson tracks with. The Velvet Underground and Nico is unarguably one of the greatest debut albums in any genre though. Such a shame

Saw Spacemen 3 locally several times and after their '91 split saw Pete Kember do a pub back room gig to promote his first solo LP. The pub isn't there anymore but it had a great atmosphere when bands were playing. Was at their last local gig when the 'Hipnotised' single was released, a cracking record that. Somewhere I have a very fuzzy VHS recording of their appearance on Rapido in '91, seems a lifetime ago now! Last I heard Pete was very busy in America doing oodles of soundtrack work, no surprise there really. Always enjoyed Jason's post- Spacemen stuff.

Amazing how good the Velvets still sound nearly fifty years on.

I've seen Spacemen 3 twice, Sonic Boom was good in Brighton a couple of years ago. Also the reformed Velvets at Glastonbury, where I also saw Spiritualized a couple of times. Always good.

Always thought Spacemen 3 were superb.

[LikesBikes]

[technodup]

House Of Pain - House Of Pain (Fine Malt Lyrics)

Introduced me to the hip hop sound in 92ish, and into the HOP/Cypress Hill/Funkdoobiest sound before rap was all bling and ting. Son Doobie and B-Real were the soundtrack to my early teens.

Jump Around is the one even your granny knows but there's much more going on than that.

I'll forgive the occasional glorifying of Sinn Fein.

[daphantom]

GNR - Appetite for destruction
The Doors - The Doors
Jamiroquai - Emergency on planet earth
Pearl Jam - Ten
Kate Bush - Kick inside
Stone roses -stone roses
The smiths - the smiths
Morrissey - viva hate
Sex pistols - never mind the bks
Jimi Hendrix -are you experienced?


Alanis morisette - jagged little pill wouldve been squeezed in but i dont think it was her debut album as she made a "poppy" type album a few years earlier before she reinvented herself

Edited by daphantom on Saturday 20th February 17:19

[Ultraviolet]

irocfan said:

This was also a great debut...

Saw them live in Derby in a smallish venue. The sound was ballistic - the speakers would move your hands if you held them above your head. Not sure the album would be one of my greats though... Bit too 'generic rock' for me

Uv

[ExocetApe]

The only band i have seen that could compare to Spacemen 3 was Mogwai.

T in the park a few years ago and i'm sure Mogwai were producing better sound once they had walked off the stage than Blur were while they were still 'playing' their set!

[bomma220]

[Bring on the clowns]

'Grin' - by Grin (Nils Lofgren)

'Music From Big Pink' - The Band

'Other Lives' - By Other Lives

'Ameritown' - by Eastern Conference Champions

'Fleet Foxes' - by Fleet Foxes (seems to be a naming theme here...)

'Oh Wonder' - by Oh Wonder(!)

'The Age of Understatement' - The Last Shadow Puppets

[Nik da Greek]

Feeling whimsical today, so...


Nick Drake - Five Leaves Left https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4nwiDyetGg

Kristi Stassinopoulou - Echotropia (well, it was the first you could get in the UK) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0Plk6fcetM

Anika Moa - Thinking Room https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4YzOo2gmuQ

Melanie - Born To Be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kAcuNrN3JU

Pop Will Eat Itself - Box Frenzy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTvBWn_Rr1g

CRASS - The Feeding of the 5000 (probably NSFW!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKAHU5-pS_A


Can't help reverting to type at the end there, bugger Errrrm, has anyone mentioned Jake Bugg yet? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EL20VKlvbs

[DocJock]

vournikas said:

I'd also include :



The interplay between Jeff Beck and Rod Stewart is fantastic, especially Morning Dew and Ol' Man River

Superb album in every way.

[DocJock]

Maybe I've missed it, but, Derek & The Dominos - Layla and assorted lovesongs

[K12beano]

DocJock said:

Maybe I've missed it, but, Derek & The Dominos - Layla and assorted lovesongs

Thought about that - brilliant album - but not really a "debut" is it? For the same reason, I suppose Rory Gallagher's "Rory Gallagher" can't count though

I'd say,


The Doors

Are We Not Men? We Are Devo!

....and...

Are You Experienced