Bad reputations!!
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Started working for a firm in late 2017, good firm, decent money for the role.
Job I am doing is very basic though, bit menial, blokes are fine though.
Issue is I am on a Fixed Term Contract, just been renewed until end of 2018.
New project came up, 4 new jobs all permanent contract, so applied and have interview next week.
Trouble is bloke that is going to be running it has a truly awful reputation as being a first class **** of a boss.
Now obviously I am not daft, take the interview, do your best and see if you get it.
Am half tempted though to say something I know, that is that I am aware of at least 6 people who haven't applied because of him. I will not do it, but maybe might decline the job and inform HR!
What would you do in this circumstance? I could easily suck it up and try it.
Job I am doing is very basic though, bit menial, blokes are fine though.
Issue is I am on a Fixed Term Contract, just been renewed until end of 2018.
New project came up, 4 new jobs all permanent contract, so applied and have interview next week.
Trouble is bloke that is going to be running it has a truly awful reputation as being a first class **** of a boss.
Now obviously I am not daft, take the interview, do your best and see if you get it.
Am half tempted though to say something I know, that is that I am aware of at least 6 people who haven't applied because of him. I will not do it, but maybe might decline the job and inform HR!
What would you do in this circumstance? I could easily suck it up and try it.
chunder27 said:
Started working for a firm in late 2017, good firm, decent money for the role.
Job I am doing is very basic though, bit menial, blokes are fine though.
Issue is I am on a Fixed Term Contract, just been renewed until end of 2018.
New project came up, 4 new jobs all permanent contract, so applied and have interview next week.
Trouble is bloke that is going to be running it has a truly awful reputation as being a first class **** of a boss.
Now obviously I am not daft, take the interview, do your best and see if you get it.
Am half tempted though to say something I know, that is that I am aware of at least 6 people who haven't applied because of him. I will not do it, but maybe might decline the job and inform HR!
What would you do in this circumstance? I could easily suck it up and try it.
If you say something you won't get the new job and I imagine they'll find a way to push you out of the existing one. Keep your trap shut IMO.Job I am doing is very basic though, bit menial, blokes are fine though.
Issue is I am on a Fixed Term Contract, just been renewed until end of 2018.
New project came up, 4 new jobs all permanent contract, so applied and have interview next week.
Trouble is bloke that is going to be running it has a truly awful reputation as being a first class **** of a boss.
Now obviously I am not daft, take the interview, do your best and see if you get it.
Am half tempted though to say something I know, that is that I am aware of at least 6 people who haven't applied because of him. I will not do it, but maybe might decline the job and inform HR!
What would you do in this circumstance? I could easily suck it up and try it.
Simply am in a contract position, vacancy is for a perm role.
Job I am doing is menial, dull. New job is new project, likely more interesting.
But, manager has an awful reputation! Am half tempted to tell him! Simple as that
I know at least 6 people who would have applied were it not for him.
That is not a good situation for a manager to be in.
Job I am doing is menial, dull. New job is new project, likely more interesting.
But, manager has an awful reputation! Am half tempted to tell him! Simple as that
I know at least 6 people who would have applied were it not for him.
That is not a good situation for a manager to be in.
Is this how you think it will go?
Boss man: So what makes you ideal for the role?
Chunder27: Well no one else applied because they think you’re a dick.
Boss man: Excuse me?
Chunder27: Well if you do me a favour by giving me the job, I’ll tell everyone that you’re such a nice man because you don’t want them thinking you’re a dick, do you?
Boss man: You’ve got the job, congratulations!
Boss man: So what makes you ideal for the role?
Chunder27: Well no one else applied because they think you’re a dick.
Boss man: Excuse me?
Chunder27: Well if you do me a favour by giving me the job, I’ll tell everyone that you’re such a nice man because you don’t want them thinking you’re a dick, do you?
Boss man: You’ve got the job, congratulations!
chunder27 said:
Simply am in a contract position, vacancy is for a perm role.
Job I am doing is menial, dull. New job is new project, likely more interesting.
But, manager has an awful reputation! Am half tempted to tell him! Simple as that
I know at least 6 people who would have applied were it not for him.
That is not a good situation for a manager to be in.
Why tell him? What do you get out of it, apart from the fact you won’t get the more interesting job?Job I am doing is menial, dull. New job is new project, likely more interesting.
But, manager has an awful reputation! Am half tempted to tell him! Simple as that
I know at least 6 people who would have applied were it not for him.
That is not a good situation for a manager to be in.
Never burn bridges, you never know when you will want to cross them again.
Don’t know what age you are, but in the past I have been supremely guilty of forming my opinions based on what others have told me about people. Not any more....... Other than for proven, convicted criminals :smile:
Please don’t do it. Take the interview, hope you do well - then form your own opinion.
Good luck
Please don’t do it. Take the interview, hope you do well - then form your own opinion.
Good luck
StescoG66 said:
Don’t know what age you are, but in the past I have been supremely guilty of forming my opinions based on what others have told me about people. Not any more....... Other than for proven, convicted criminals :smile:
Please don’t do it. Take the interview, hope you do well - then form your own opinion.
Good luck
Good advice. Go for the interview and make you own mind up rather than listening to others.Please don’t do it. Take the interview, hope you do well - then form your own opinion.
Good luck
Take the job, do as you're told and I'm sure everything will be fine. I've worked for companies which had that stigma attached to them and I never had a problem. It turns out it's the staff that are the t
ts and therefore giving the manager a reputation when I fact all the manager wants is his workforce to crack on. Just keep your head down and do your best.
ts and therefore giving the manager a reputation when I fact all the manager wants is his workforce to crack on. Just keep your head down and do your best. It's a weird situation, one I have never encountered before.
In the one hand it's taking you from a fixed term role into a perm role, new project, etc etc.
But I don't work well with pushy and forceful people, never have and this is what he is like. Has favourites etc.
Yes I know it's hearsay, but it is EVERYONE, not just the odd few in a decent size workforce, and the section he runs is a morgue, no banter, no fun, just head down slaving.
And that does I am afraid factor into an opinion, rightly or wrongly.
In the one hand it's taking you from a fixed term role into a perm role, new project, etc etc.
But I don't work well with pushy and forceful people, never have and this is what he is like. Has favourites etc.
Yes I know it's hearsay, but it is EVERYONE, not just the odd few in a decent size workforce, and the section he runs is a morgue, no banter, no fun, just head down slaving.
And that does I am afraid factor into an opinion, rightly or wrongly.
Turbotechnic said:
Take the job, do as you're told and I'm sure everything will be fine. I've worked for companies which had that stigma attached to them and I never had a problem. It turns out it's the staff that are the tts and therefore giving the manager a reputation when I fact all the manager wants is his workforce to crack on. Just keep your head down and do your best.
I took a job once when I thought the hiring manager in the interview was going to be trouble. It turns out he was everything I had thought in the interview and more, and I ended up leaving 18 months later. ts and therefore giving the manager a reputation when I fact all the manager wants is his workforce to crack on. Just keep your head down and do your best. One of my team said to me at the time, "life is too short, and there are too many jobs out there to spend it working for a sh*t boss", which helped take the decision to resign in a one to one meeting where I was getting yet another chewing out.
However, it certainly taught me a few things, made me look at my own style and approach to work, and how to work with challenging individuals. Pain of working with this manager aside, it was a good stepping stone to where I am now, so wasn't really a waste of my time, and I don't have any regrets.
I've also worked for and with people who I got on with when others couldn't - so you may find this happens. It's quite a strong position being the "good cop" people can deal with when they don't want to deal with your boss.
For the bad manager I had above, I did deliberately have a Plan B I could bring into play if it all went wrong (which was to ensure I had a few months pay in the bank so I could afford some time off to set myself up as a contractor), and I kicked that into action once I knew I was on my way out. That helped keep my mind steady and focussed on the next part of my career and kept the worry of leaving my job away.
One thing to remember for an interview is that you are interviewing them just as much as they are interviewing you.
I have had at least one interview where the job sounded great, however, I have turned the offer down based upon the interviewer. If you think that they are a dick in the interview, what makes you think they will change once you start to work for them.
One interview I went to I had the agency call me the late afternoon before the interview first thing the next day to let me know that the interviewer had decided that they wanted me to prepare some information that meant a good few hours work. Since I was already working and didn't get home until 7 this took most of the rest of the evening. Warning bells were ringing already. Then I get into the interview and HR were there but the interviewer wasn't. She turned up half an hour in and basically wanted me to justify why I had prepared the information in a different manner to the way she would, the information was correct, just calculated differently. She sat there glowering across the table looking like I had offered to kill her first born. Finished the interview then got straight on the phone to the agency to let them know that there was no way on earth I would accept a job from that company.
I have had at least one interview where the job sounded great, however, I have turned the offer down based upon the interviewer. If you think that they are a dick in the interview, what makes you think they will change once you start to work for them.
One interview I went to I had the agency call me the late afternoon before the interview first thing the next day to let me know that the interviewer had decided that they wanted me to prepare some information that meant a good few hours work. Since I was already working and didn't get home until 7 this took most of the rest of the evening. Warning bells were ringing already. Then I get into the interview and HR were there but the interviewer wasn't. She turned up half an hour in and basically wanted me to justify why I had prepared the information in a different manner to the way she would, the information was correct, just calculated differently. She sat there glowering across the table looking like I had offered to kill her first born. Finished the interview then got straight on the phone to the agency to let them know that there was no way on earth I would accept a job from that company.
Rule Number 1 for any employee - HR are not there for you, they are their to protect the organisation who employs them and the upper management.
Rule Number 2 for any employee - HR are not always right, in fact they are very often wrong and will only push the solution that is the easiest for them and the company, and it is often staffed by people who can best be described as being less than optimal. There are some real pearls in there who are fantastic at their job, but sadly they are the exception rather than the rule.
Rule Number 2 for any employee - HR are not always right, in fact they are very often wrong and will only push the solution that is the easiest for them and the company, and it is often staffed by people who can best be described as being less than optimal. There are some real pearls in there who are fantastic at their job, but sadly they are the exception rather than the rule.
chunder27 said:
It's a weird situation, one I have never encountered before.
In the one hand it's taking you from a fixed term role into a perm role, new project, etc etc.
But I don't work well with pushy and forceful people, never have and this is what he is like. Has favourites etc.
Yes I know it's hearsay, but it is EVERYONE, not just the odd few in a decent size workforce, and the section he runs is a morgue, no banter, no fun, just head down slaving.
And that does I am afraid factor into an opinion, rightly or wrongly.
Don't apply for the job then if it's not something you would enjoy. Telling him/HR or whoever won't change that.In the one hand it's taking you from a fixed term role into a perm role, new project, etc etc.
But I don't work well with pushy and forceful people, never have and this is what he is like. Has favourites etc.
Yes I know it's hearsay, but it is EVERYONE, not just the odd few in a decent size workforce, and the section he runs is a morgue, no banter, no fun, just head down slaving.
And that does I am afraid factor into an opinion, rightly or wrongly.
Not sure what the problem is here.
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