The Beatles

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Evangelion

7,729 posts

178 months

Sunday 6th September 2020
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I too respectfully disagree, but not quite as much as zygalski. White album, yes, loads of filler, miss out all the rubbish and it could have been a very good single album.

Nothing wrong with Let it Be - a collection of good songs, they just didn't have George Martin producing them.

zygalski

7,759 posts

145 months

Sunday 6th September 2020
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I'd much rather listen to MMT as a collection of songs rather than the white album or let it be.

Mark V GTD

2,226 posts

124 months

Monday 7th September 2020
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Fascinating views here.. I for one love LIB - although I would normally listen to Let It Be (Naked) rather then the Spector (over) produced version from 1970. As for The White Album - well it just would not have its wonderful variety and quirkiness without the 'filler' songs such as Rocky, BB, Piggies et al....

DickyC

49,758 posts

198 months

Monday 7th September 2020
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zygalski said:
I'd much rather listen to MMT as a collection of songs rather than the white album or let it be.
The first two minutes of Flying for me, please. On a loop.

Mark V GTD

2,226 posts

124 months

Monday 7th September 2020
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Love that one too - I believe its their only song officially credited to all four Beatles.

Wacky Racer

38,162 posts

247 months

Monday 7th September 2020
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Spot Kate Ford (Tracy Barlow) from Corrie on here:-


Evangelion

7,729 posts

178 months

Tuesday 8th September 2020
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She's the Christine Keeler lookalike stepping off the kerb at 1:48 and i believe it was her first acting job. (Well it was 1994.)

P5BNij

15,875 posts

106 months

Tuesday 8th September 2020
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Always liked that video, amazing to think the Anthology kicked off twenty six years ago and it's fifty years since they split up.

The details in the vid are spot on, Tara Browne crashed the Elan when he swerved to avoid a parked van, his biography by Paul Howard is well worth a punt.

I've got 'Tomorrow Never Knows' playing rather loud as I type this.... wink

Mark V GTD

2,226 posts

124 months

Tuesday 8th September 2020
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Great choice of song!

I would think that Revolver would make a great deluxe album set - maybe on its 55th birthday next summer? I ordered the Abbey Road one but not yet opened the cellophane on it - I managed to pick it up on Amazon for £60 but the other ones are quite expensive now.

Has anyone heard the surround sound versions? I am building my system back up to support 5.1 but its not there yet.

P5BNij

15,875 posts

106 months

Tuesday 8th September 2020
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Mark V GTD said:
Great choice of song!

I would think that Revolver would make a great deluxe album set - maybe on its 55th birthday next summer? I ordered the Abbey Road one but not yet opened the cellophane on it - I managed to pick it up on Amazon for £60 but the other ones are quite expensive now.

Has anyone heard the surround sound versions? I am building my system back up to support 5.1 but its not there yet.
One of the strengths of Revolver is the way it feels completely self contained, it feels like a fully rounded piece of work but it would have been even better if they'd dumped 'Yellow Submarine' and replaced it with 'Paperback Writer' and 'Rain'. George's 'Love You To' is sometimes dismissed as a one note dirge but I think it sounds fantastic even now. At this point in their career they were brimming with a slightly arrogant self confidence and it shows when you listen to it, and like Rubber Soul, they didn't need to put the band name on the cover. It was released in August '66 right in the middle of their last world tour yet they didn't play a single track from it on stage, then again it would've been impossible to replicate Tomorrow Never Knows live with the gear they were using. Any other band would have happliy coasted on the success of the LP's sales for quite a while, but they were back inside Abbey Road at the end of November to start work on what would become Sgt.Pepper. By Christmas the papers were full of stories about them breaking up so Brian Epstein insisted they pull Penny Lane and Strawberry Fields Forever off the intended album and release them as a double A-side asap.

On 20th December they were doorstepped at Abbey Road by an ITN News film crew to find out what they were up to....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_jP-tOKXXQ

nonsequitur

20,083 posts

116 months

Tuesday 8th September 2020
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P5BNij said:
Mark V GTD said:
Great choice of song!

I would think that Revolver would make a great deluxe album set - maybe on its 55th birthday next summer? I ordered the Abbey Road one but not yet opened the cellophane on it - I managed to pick it up on Amazon for £60 but the other ones are quite expensive now.

Has anyone heard the surround sound versions? I am building my system back up to support 5.1 but its not there yet.
One of the strengths of Revolver is the way it feels completely self contained, it feels like a fully rounded piece of work but it would have been even better if they'd dumped 'Yellow Submarine' and replaced it with 'Paperback Writer' and 'Rain'. George's 'Love You To' is sometimes dismissed as a one note dirge but I think it sounds fantastic even now. At this point in their career they were brimming with a slightly arrogant self confidence and it shows when you listen to it, and like Rubber Soul, they didn't need to put the band name on the cover. It was released in August '66 right in the middle of their last world tour yet they didn't play a single track from it on stage, then again it would've been impossible to replicate Tomorrow Never Knows live with the gear they were using. Any other band would have happliy coasted on the success of the LP's sales for quite a while, but they were back inside Abbey Road at the end of November to start work on what would become Sgt.Pepper. By Christmas the papers were full of stories about them breaking up so Brian Epstein insisted they pull Penny Lane and Strawberry Fields Forever off the intended album and release them as a double A-side asap.

On 20th December they were doorstepped at Abbey Road by an ITN News film crew to find out what they were up to....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_jP-tOKXXQ
The thought of 'Strawberry Fields ' and Penny Lane' on Sgt Pepper sends a quiver down my spine. Would still be in the top ten fifty years on.

Mark V GTD

2,226 posts

124 months

Tuesday 8th September 2020
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Wow P5BNij you certainly know your stuff!

The Beatles really did operate at a heck of a rate of output - incomparable to todays bands.

The one that impresses me the most is if you consider the time between the UK release of the 30 track double album 'The Beatles' and the first day in the studio for rehearsing/recording their intended next album 'Let It Be' - 41 days!!

extraT

1,758 posts

150 months

Tuesday 8th September 2020
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“And I Love Her” is, in my opinion at least, their greatest song and one of the best ever written. McCartney’s voice as he sings “bright are the stars that shine, dark is the night” is spine-tingling stuff.

paulguitar

23,440 posts

113 months

Tuesday 8th September 2020
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extraT said:
“And I Love Her” is, in my opinion at least, their greatest song and one of the best ever written. McCartney’s voice as he sings “bright are the stars that shine, dark is the night” is spine-tingling stuff.
And the key-change is one of the best ever.

DickyC

49,758 posts

198 months

Tuesday 8th September 2020
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nonsequitur said:
The thought of 'Strawberry Fields ' and Penny Lane' on Sgt Pepper sends a quiver down my spine. Would still be in the top ten fifty years on.
Where would they have sat on the album, I wonder? What would they have displaced? Or would the album just have been longer?

The Sgt Pepper intro has to stay where it is and probably With A Little Help and you can't move A Day In The Life. That stays at the end.

Evangelion

7,729 posts

178 months

Tuesday 8th September 2020
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DickyC said:
The Sgt Pepper intro has to stay where it is and probably With A Little Help and you can't move A Day In The Life. That stays at the end.
And Good Morning has to segue into Sgt Pepper Reprise, which has to segue into A Day In The Life so those have to stay where they are also. I think the album would have to have been longer, as there aren't really any two tracks you could point to and say, 'they're weak, they can go.'

nonsequitur

20,083 posts

116 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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Mark V GTD said:
Wow P5BNij you certainly know your stuff!

The Beatles really did operate at a heck of a rate of output - incomparable to todays bands.

The one that impresses me the most is if you consider the time between the UK release of the 30 track double album 'The Beatles' and the first day in the studio for rehearsing/recording their intended next album 'Let It Be' - 41 days!!
Their first album 'Please Please Me' was recorded in one 18 hour session at Abbey Road.

Wacky Racer

38,162 posts

247 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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nonsequitur said:
Their first album 'Please Please Me' was recorded in one 18 hour session at Abbey Road.
The very first album I bought in 1963.

32s/6d.

nonsequitur

20,083 posts

116 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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Wacky Racer said:
nonsequitur said:
Their first album 'Please Please Me' was recorded in one 18 hour session at Abbey Road.
The very first album I bought in 1963.

32s/6d.
I still have my copy - dog eared - that I took to school to look cool. (Failed, because the place was wall to wall Beatles albums)

Evangelion

7,729 posts

178 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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nonsequitur said:
Their first album 'Please Please Me' was recorded in one 18 hour session at Abbey Road.
It was actually only 13 hours! To be fair, four of the songs had already been recorded - but that's still bloody impressive!


Edited by Evangelion on Wednesday 9th September 12:13