Genesis

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generationx

6,781 posts

106 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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I enjoy “And Then There Were Three” very much, then Abacab, Duke and Genesis. Invisible Touch has a couple of good offerings then from We Can’t Dance it really starts to go down hill.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Saturday 7th September 2019
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Duke is considered by Rutherford, Banks, and Collins as their favourite album, and it’s mine as well, although I can find things to enjoy on Abacab and Genesis, although only a couple on the former, and. only Home By The Sea 1&2 on the latter.

The only album of the “classic era” I’ve never got is Lamb Lie Down. Give me Selling England By The Pound all day long. Regarding that album, I find it remarkable that Peter Gabriel wanted to veto the extended 7/8 instrumental section in The Cinema Show....

Evangelion

7,737 posts

179 months

Saturday 7th September 2019
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Simonium said:
... The only album of the “classic era” I’ve never got is Lamb Lie Down. Give me Selling England By The Pound all day long. Regarding that album, I find it remarkable that Peter Gabriel wanted to veto the extended 7/8 instrumental section in The Cinema Show....
Really? What an idiot! It's probably my favourite part of any album, anytime, ever - with the possible exception of the one in Firth Of Fifth.

For me, they got better and better and the high point was Trick Of The Tail/Wind And Wuthering, although And Then There Were Three and Duke were also pretty good. Then they went down from there. Although having said that, Genesis' worst is till better than anybody else's best.

(PS - I've never managed to get into Lamb Lies Down either.)

Unbusy

934 posts

98 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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cherryowen said:
keirik said:
Nah, they were finished at foxtrot when Steve Hackett left
IMVHO
Spot on. Couldn’t be replaced and wasn’t. What he added to the music was way beyond what anyone else could come close to. I like Rutherford but he’s not gifted like Hackett is.
There is a lot of vitriol against Collins over the direction he took the band. Certainly commercially successful but each album got worse with 80% being total pish. At times the genius of Banks could still shine through enough and give us old dinosaurs a pleasurable moment.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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Unbusy said:
There is a lot of vitriol against Collins over the direction he took the band.
Imho
They had to give that whacky Gabriel era the elbow, to me it sounded dated, they carried it on when he left with Trick Of The Tail although the music was great, Wind And Wuthering was a fantastic album, And Then There Were Three was a good album too perhaps not as good as Wind And Wuthering and then came Duke, the culmination, the Gabriel elfs and goblins era had gone, they hadn't sold out to nasty 80s production yet, just a classy album.
Perhaps Duke was the last album Phil Collins was still humble.

Evangelion

7,737 posts

179 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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Raygun said:
Unbusy said:
There is a lot of vitriol against Collins over the direction he took the band.
Imho
They had to give that whacky Gabriel era the elbow, etc ...
Absolutely, would agree with all that.

Halmyre

11,215 posts

140 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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Unbusy said:
cherryowen said:
keirik said:
Nah, they were finished at foxtrot when Steve Hackett left
IMVHO
Spot on. Couldn’t be replaced and wasn’t. What he added to the music was way beyond what anyone else could come close to. I like Rutherford but he’s not gifted like Hackett is.
There is a lot of vitriol against Collins over the direction he took the band. Certainly commercially successful but each album got worse with 80% being total pish. At times the genius of Banks could still shine through enough and give us old dinosaurs a pleasurable moment.
I think Phil gets a bad press on this. He may have been leading the band in a certain direction, but Tony and Mike were pushing him along.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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Evangelion said:
Raygun said:
Unbusy said:
There is a lot of vitriol against Collins over the direction he took the band.
Imho
They had to give that whacky Gabriel era the elbow, etc ...
Absolutely, would agree with all that.
Also not forgetting standing in the rain on a damp October saturday in 1982 at Milton Keynes to help get some money for Gabriel's WOMAD after he previously put on a WOMAD festival that was a flop.

Unbusy

934 posts

98 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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I must be whacky then through and through. hehe
I adore the PG era and know many guys of the same opinion. Well, 4.
Sadly I know all the words and have done for decades. Not a week goes by without one of the classic era CDs being played in chez moi. Once a dinosaur ...
Hackett is touring at the moment with SEBT£ and Spectral Mornings coming to a city near you quite soon. The music is of a time, no doubt, long may it continue to float my boat.
I appreciate why the later music gained a strong following and I sometime dip into it selectively.
Making a living playing the whacky era is a Canadian group called The Musical Box. A quite exquisite experience. They even use the original slides from the Lamb tour. No puppets in sight. smile

anonymous-user

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55 months

Friday 13th September 2019
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Unbusy said:
I must be whacky then through and through. hehe
I adore the PG era and know many guys of the same opinion. Well, 4.
Sadly I know all the words and have done for decades. Not a week goes by without one of the classic era CDs being played in chez moi. Once a dinosaur ...
Hackett is touring at the moment with SEBT£ and Spectral Mornings coming to a city near you quite soon. The music is of a time, no doubt, long may it continue to float my boat.
I appreciate why the later music gained a strong following and I sometime dip into it selectively.
Making a living playing the whacky era is a Canadian group called The Musical Box. A quite exquisite experience. They even use the original slides from the Lamb tour. No puppets in sight. smile
I've got that album Genesis Revisited by Steve Hackett where he has Paul Carrick singing Your Own Special Way on it, fantastic.

Dolf Stoppard

1,323 posts

123 months

Saturday 14th September 2019
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Surprised nobody has mentioned Thotch...

https://youtu.be/FkHrr0VOjZk