Gig Plans - 2020

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snuffy

9,765 posts

284 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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popeyewhite said:
The Black Crowes are still at The Apollo Manchester on Oct 20.
Their website has pretty much everything either cancelled or rescheduled for sometime in 2021. Seems very odd that a few have not been been changed (like The Black Crowes).

I'd tickets for The Hairy Bikers in October in Liverpool at the Philharmonic Hall. Everything has been cancelled/rescheduled until the 31 of October.



Starfighter

4,927 posts

178 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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I had a date with a friend to see The Shies in Bristol this spring. The gig is now confirmed for May 21.

Deathmole

959 posts

45 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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Yetski said:
I have tickets for the Glasgow show, really looking forward to that as I have only seen them once and it was at a festival. I'm a big fan so getting to one of their own shows has been something that has been on the to do list for years.

Just gotta keep on waiting I guess grumpy

popeyewhite

19,890 posts

120 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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snuffy said:
Their website has pretty much everything either cancelled or rescheduled for sometime in 2021. Seems very odd that a few have not been been changed (like The Black Crowes).
Their world tour kicks off in the UK... I'm worried the reason for no change is they can't reschedule the UK dates and may have to cancel. So basically they're biding their time anf hoping the UK leg can go ahead without virus restrictions. According to Gov.uk gigs should be restarting beginning of Oct. [shrugs]

FunkyNige

8,883 posts

275 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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snuffy said:
FunkyNige said:
Frank Turner's playing a live gig tonight at The Grand in Clapham to see how feasible gigs are at the moment with social distancing. I don't think we need masks at gigs do we? I went to an art exhibition at the weekend and they said we didn't need one in there.
Maybe seated Jazz gigs can start up soon but I don't know what's going to have to happen in order to open up enough for crowds of people getting sweaty and singing in a tiny area.
I don' think you need a mask as long as people are 2m apart. That works if it's a new event, since they can limit the ticket sales. But not if it's already sold out at pre-CV levels (because who decides who can't go?).

But, at 2m, as you say, are they feasible economically ?

And if they go back to normal capacity, I reckon that would mean masks. And again, as you say, how's that going to work ?

2m makes it a pretty sad experience, and masks makes it both a sad an physically uncomfortable experience.
Looks like that gig I mentioned was part of a trial to see how the new setup would work, he's done a write-up here
The sad part is
"The Grand was at less than 20% of capacity (around 200 people), but [the owner] had to double the number of staff working, to meet all the guidelines. There was no talent spend (I didn’t get paid), and no advertising spend (the show sold out pretty much straight away), and yet it still lost money."

snuffy

9,765 posts

284 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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FunkyNige said:
Looks like that gig I mentioned was part of a trial to see how the new setup would work, he's done a write-up here
The sad part is
"The Grand was at less than 20% of capacity (around 200 people), but [the owner] had to double the number of staff working, to meet all the guidelines. There was no talent spend (I didn’t get paid), and no advertising spend (the show sold out pretty much straight away), and yet it still lost money."
I just finished ready his write-up.

I've been to some gigs with seating like that (JTQ was the last one I think), but being on my own I was sat with strangers. Will they let you even do that now ? A table for one sir ?

Live music can't survive at 20% capacity. For example, the last gig I went to was to see James Grant (Love and Money). It was full, but no more than 150 people, all seated. About £20 a ticket (£3,000 in sales). Then take out the costs involved and what's left for the man on stage ? Not much, if anything. Never mind if the capacity is reduced by so much. It don't work.




Deathmole

959 posts

45 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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Oh, I was meant to be at Wacken in Germany this week too; more reason to be miffed frown

Heartworm

1,923 posts

161 months

Thursday 30th July 2020
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Deathmole said:
Oh, I was meant to be at Wacken in Germany this week too; more reason to be miffed frown
I had no idea how much I was going to miss sitting in a muddy field.

marcosgt

11,021 posts

176 months

Friday 31st July 2020
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Rapidly becoming Gig Plans -2021 - Ben Watt's moved his November dates to May 2021 now.

I can't see Blancmange in October happening either...

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snuffy

9,765 posts

284 months

Friday 31st July 2020
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After today's latest HMG announcement there will not be any performances of any sort this year.

Heartworm

1,923 posts

161 months

Friday 31st July 2020
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Machine head have cancelled the rescheduled dates they had, lamb of god/Kreator rescheduling for dec 2021.
It must be hurting these bands badly from a financial side.

Deathmole

959 posts

45 months

Friday 31st July 2020
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Heartworm said:
Deathmole said:
Oh, I was meant to be at Wacken in Germany this week too; more reason to be miffed frown
I had no idea how much I was going to miss sitting in a muddy field.
cry same

Just looked at the forecast for the area - it's amazing! 28c and dry, bloody typical as it's normally a wash out! laugh

Turn7

23,610 posts

221 months

Friday 31st July 2020
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Have booked a ticket for Frank Turners Show 2500 stream.....full band and hi quality audio/visuals promised for £12

Rod200SX

8,087 posts

176 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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Just got an email through that Guns N Roses in glasgow has been rescheduled to Thursday 24th June 2021.

Was hoping it'd still be within a day or two of Green day (it's now on the following Monday) so that'll make it a good bit more expensive but hey ho. It's a gig at least!

epom

11,527 posts

161 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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Just saw the same here, for a Tuesday night frown

egor110

16,864 posts

203 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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Rod200SX said:
Just got an email through that Guns N Roses in glasgow has been rescheduled to Thursday 24th June 2021.

Was hoping it'd still be within a day or two of Green day (it's now on the following Monday) so that'll make it a good bit more expensive but hey ho. It's a gig at least!
It's a gig , if it actually happens thats a whole other thing .

snuffy

9,765 posts

284 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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egor110 said:
It's a gig , if it actually happens thats a whole other thing .
I think they are only coming up with new dates in the hope that you will not ask for a refund. I've not asked for any refunds, but I don't expect any of the new dates to happen.

I wonder what will happen when a rescheduled date is rescheduled for a second time ?

irocfan

40,459 posts

190 months

Thursday 6th August 2020
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snuffy said:
I wonder what will happen when a rescheduled date is rescheduled for a second time ?
well i'm already on the 3rd time (which will also be cancelled) fo rOzzy andPriest. Given Ozzy's health I'm not convinced I'll see him again frown

popeyewhite

19,890 posts

120 months

Thursday 6th August 2020
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irocfan said:
snuffy said:
I wonder what will happen when a rescheduled date is rescheduled for a second time ?
well i'm already on the 3rd time (which will also be cancelled) fo rOzzy andPriest. Given Ozzy's health I'm not convinced I'll see him again frown
You may well be right unfortunately. I saw Sabbath the last two tours and Oz was in markedly poorer health the last time ('17 ?).

V8 Stang

4,382 posts

183 months

Tuesday 11th August 2020
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Just taken a punt and spent £608 on a ticket for Download 2021.

Do we think festivals should be all good again by next June?