Are you 'stuck' in a particular era for a band?
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just going off the back of "...does rock music sound dated..." I was wondering if you are stuck with a band in a particular era?
For example I love Rush but after Hold Your Fire I'm fairly 'meh' - appreciate it but don't love it.
AC/DC lost me round about The Razor's Edge
Black Sabbath LOVED Dio's version and Ozzy
Ozzy his first 3 solo albums and then not me
The above having been said I still saw Rush several times until 2015, would still see AC/DC today (as long as the Geordie "pub-singer" was fronting them!) and have/had tickets to see Ozzy with Priest (postponed twice 3rd try is Oct - can't see it happening at all, sadly).
It's not even a case of not liking music anymore as I grow older since I love a lot of the new wave of German industrial rock (Rammstein, Megahertz, Esbrecher) and newer rock (3 Days Grace, Breaking Benjamin etc).
For example I love Rush but after Hold Your Fire I'm fairly 'meh' - appreciate it but don't love it.
AC/DC lost me round about The Razor's Edge
Black Sabbath LOVED Dio's version and Ozzy
Ozzy his first 3 solo albums and then not me
The above having been said I still saw Rush several times until 2015, would still see AC/DC today (as long as the Geordie "pub-singer" was fronting them!) and have/had tickets to see Ozzy with Priest (postponed twice 3rd try is Oct - can't see it happening at all, sadly).
It's not even a case of not liking music anymore as I grow older since I love a lot of the new wave of German industrial rock (Rammstein, Megahertz, Esbrecher) and newer rock (3 Days Grace, Breaking Benjamin etc).
To be truthful I am.
I seem to like music from the late 70s to the very early 80s, my favourite artist made my favourite albums during this era, Rumours, Breakfast In America, But Seriously Folks etc.
You make a good point about Rush, even though your a big fan you own up when an album they release isn't to your taste anymore. I'm not familiar with all Rush albums only owning Hemispheres and Permanent Waves and the one with Big Money on? Anyway I remember all too well back in the day when a diehard fan of a group or singer wouldn't come clean when the new release was a bit of a duffer. It happened a lot as the 80s got going as the nasty reverb appeared everywhere and now sounds nasty and dated compared to a lot of late 70s stuff but every artist was guilty, say compare Steve Winwood's Arc Of A Diver to Back In The High Life or Genesis Duke compared to Invisible Touch.
As for the German stuff you listen to now just sounds a racket to me.
Don't shoot me as the other posted wanted to, it's just my opinion.
I seem to like music from the late 70s to the very early 80s, my favourite artist made my favourite albums during this era, Rumours, Breakfast In America, But Seriously Folks etc.
You make a good point about Rush, even though your a big fan you own up when an album they release isn't to your taste anymore. I'm not familiar with all Rush albums only owning Hemispheres and Permanent Waves and the one with Big Money on? Anyway I remember all too well back in the day when a diehard fan of a group or singer wouldn't come clean when the new release was a bit of a duffer. It happened a lot as the 80s got going as the nasty reverb appeared everywhere and now sounds nasty and dated compared to a lot of late 70s stuff but every artist was guilty, say compare Steve Winwood's Arc Of A Diver to Back In The High Life or Genesis Duke compared to Invisible Touch.
As for the German stuff you listen to now just sounds a racket to me.
Don't shoot me as the other posted wanted to, it's just my opinion.
ELO: From New World Record through to Secret Messages. Every album and track - awesome. What went before and after (with one or two exceptions)..nah!
Simple Minds is an odd one. From Life in a Day through to Once Upon a Time in 1985, they were fabulous. Then went off the boil. But their last four albums from Graffiti Soul in 2009 have been, IMO, four of their best.
Simple Minds is an odd one. From Life in a Day through to Once Upon a Time in 1985, they were fabulous. Then went off the boil. But their last four albums from Graffiti Soul in 2009 have been, IMO, four of their best.
Johnnytheboy said:
I love Queen up until Jazz, then my interest stops dead.
I love David Bowie up until Aladdin Sane, ditto.
I love AC/DC until Bon Scott dies, ditto.
YepI love David Bowie up until Aladdin Sane, ditto.
I love AC/DC until Bon Scott dies, ditto.
Yep
Yep
I'm not familiar with Slayer so can't comment.
With David Bowie there seems to be certain members of the cool and trendy scene that won't have anything said against David Bowie's recordings, he made some dreadful music over the years and also some fantastic music I hasten to add. You can add Pink Floyd to that statement also.
I most of these for me are more to do with lineup especially vocalists, there's a few I can think of where things changed stylistically in part of a discography, or are just plain crap after a certain point.
First 5 Metallica albums and the first 5 Slayer albums (haunting the chapel EP really good also) are obvious ones, personally I don't think any of those are my favourite trash records. There's quite a few more in metal;
Sabbath with Dio are the only ones I would reach for, also his first 4 solo records.
Iron Maiden - Bruce albums, though I haven't actually heard the two with Blaze Bayley yet, it probably won't change what I always go back to.
In Flames pre Clayman. Dark Tranquility - The Gallery is good but Mind's I is the only one I really go back to, the two after that just not for me at all, the three following again are Ok but that's about it.
Candlemass - debut and Messiah Marcolin albums.
Maybe less known but as its where my name comes from, Borknagar - First two with Garm, then the next two with Simen Hestnaes - after that Vintersorg is a great vocalist too but it doesn't grab me, they now have millions of singers with all three of them back (last record is supposed to be good though).
Dimmu Borgir - first three albums and only the next two with the new keyboard player.
First 5 Metallica albums and the first 5 Slayer albums (haunting the chapel EP really good also) are obvious ones, personally I don't think any of those are my favourite trash records. There's quite a few more in metal;
Sabbath with Dio are the only ones I would reach for, also his first 4 solo records.
Iron Maiden - Bruce albums, though I haven't actually heard the two with Blaze Bayley yet, it probably won't change what I always go back to.
In Flames pre Clayman. Dark Tranquility - The Gallery is good but Mind's I is the only one I really go back to, the two after that just not for me at all, the three following again are Ok but that's about it.
Candlemass - debut and Messiah Marcolin albums.
Maybe less known but as its where my name comes from, Borknagar - First two with Garm, then the next two with Simen Hestnaes - after that Vintersorg is a great vocalist too but it doesn't grab me, they now have millions of singers with all three of them back (last record is supposed to be good though).
Dimmu Borgir - first three albums and only the next two with the new keyboard player.
Edited by Winterway on Wednesday 24th June 11:47
For me, my interest in Depeche Mode albums is like a bell curve, with Violator being the absolute pinnacle and each subsequent album being of less and less interest to me.
Black Celebration and Music for the Masses are just before the peak of Violator, and Songs of Faith and Devotion and Ultra are the start of the downward trend. I still bought every subsequent album and used to listen to them over and over, but it was almost like I was having to train myself to actually like them.
Delta Machine was the first album I didn't even bother listening to on the day of release and I still haven't even listened to Spirit three years after it's release.
The other band I am massively into is Blur and the Life Trilogy of Modern Life is Rubbish, Park Life and The Great Escape, as far as I am concerned every track is brilliant. After that each album had several good tracks, but I never listen to any of them all the way through.
Black Celebration and Music for the Masses are just before the peak of Violator, and Songs of Faith and Devotion and Ultra are the start of the downward trend. I still bought every subsequent album and used to listen to them over and over, but it was almost like I was having to train myself to actually like them.
Delta Machine was the first album I didn't even bother listening to on the day of release and I still haven't even listened to Spirit three years after it's release.
The other band I am massively into is Blur and the Life Trilogy of Modern Life is Rubbish, Park Life and The Great Escape, as far as I am concerned every track is brilliant. After that each album had several good tracks, but I never listen to any of them all the way through.
Johnnytheboy said:
I love David Bowie up until Aladdin Sane, ditto.
The Holy Trilogy of Hunky Dory, The Rise & Fall and Aladdin Sane are loved by most Bowie fans. And many think it was downhill from there. In terms of whole albums, I'd say Scary Monsters (1980) was as good as those three. But many other albums were pretty decent, especially the Berlin stuff, Low/ Heroes/ Station to Station. Young Americans is pretty good, and Let's Dance was a huge selling album that brought many new fans who were too young for the early 70s stuff. TwigtheWonderkid said:
and Let's Dance was a huge selling album that brought many new fans who were too young for the early 70s stuff.
Agree Twigy regarding popularity of Let's Dance, David Bowie + Chic production should equate to a fantasic album unfortunately what was against it imho was the year it was made, it just sounds like a typical 80s record to me now.Just my opinion mind you.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
The Holy Trilogy of Hunky Dory, The Rise & Fall and Aladdin Sane are loved by most Bowie fans. And many think it was downhill from there. In terms of whole albums, I'd say Scary Monsters (1980) was as good as those three. But many other albums were pretty decent, especially the Berlin stuff, Low/ Heroes/ Station to Station. Young Americans is pretty good, and Let's Dance was a huge selling album that brought many new fans who were too young for the early 70s stuff.
Lodger is the third of the 'Berlin' trilogy. Station comes before Low, but I always associate it with the Berlin stuff because of the cover design, and the title track. I always associate Scary Monsters with the Berlin stuff as well.Raygun said:
Agree Twigy regarding popularity of Let's Dance, David Bowie + Chic production should equate to a fantasic album unfortunately what was against it imho was the year it was made, it just sounds like a typical 80s record to me now.
Just my opinion mind you.
Terrible cover too.Just my opinion mind you.
Halmyre said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
The Holy Trilogy of Hunky Dory, The Rise & Fall and Aladdin Sane are loved by most Bowie fans. And many think it was downhill from there. In terms of whole albums, I'd say Scary Monsters (1980) was as good as those three. But many other albums were pretty decent, especially the Berlin stuff, Low/ Heroes/ Station to Station. Young Americans is pretty good, and Let's Dance was a huge selling album that brought many new fans who were too young for the early 70s stuff.
Lodger is the third of the 'Berlin' trilogy. Station comes before Low, but I always associate it with the Berlin stuff because of the cover design, and the title track. I always associate Scary Monsters with the Berlin stuff as well.Raygun said:
Agree Twigy regarding popularity of Let's Dance, David Bowie + Chic production should equate to a fantasic album unfortunately what was against it imho was the year it was made, it just sounds like a typical 80s record to me now.
Just my opinion mind you.
Terrible cover too.Just my opinion mind you.
Just my opinion.
Halmyre said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
The Holy Trilogy of Hunky Dory, The Rise & Fall and Aladdin Sane are loved by most Bowie fans. And many think it was downhill from there. In terms of whole albums, I'd say Scary Monsters (1980) was as good as those three. But many other albums were pretty decent, especially the Berlin stuff, Low/ Heroes/ Station to Station. Young Americans is pretty good, and Let's Dance was a huge selling album that brought many new fans who were too young for the early 70s stuff.
Lodger is the third of the 'Berlin' trilogy. Station comes before Low, but I always associate it with the Berlin stuff because of the cover design, and the title track. I always associate Scary Monsters with the Berlin stuff as well.Raygun said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
and Let's Dance was a huge selling album that brought many new fans who were too young for the early 70s stuff.
Agree Twigy regarding popularity of Let's Dance, David Bowie + Chic production should equate to a fantasic album unfortunately what was against it imho was the year it was made, it just sounds like a typical 80s record to me now.Just my opinion mind you.
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