Joy Division

[rjfp1962]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Am I the only one who felt a bit disappointed by New Order. Yes, they did some ok stuff, but imho, unlike Joy Division, they were nothing special

I have only got the double CD "Singles" of New Order and there is quite a few here that I don't like very much.
In fairness though, Joy Division were a very different band to New Order - Just taking Ian's lyrics away for one, and the band going off in new directions..

I do like this though. "Temptation"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxDv_RTdLQo

[AJB88]

I like NO but as a different band to JD, much prefer their electronic stuff. latest album was quite good.

[anonymous-user]

I actually prefer new order to joy division. I like both but I probably got into new order first and then joy division through them.

[Penelope Stopit]

bigandclever said:

This at MIF? Tunes and a *lot* of chat, which is no doubt very interesting but you might be FFwding a bit

https://www.facebook.com/NewOrderOfficial/videos/n...

Thank you

AJB88 said:

only just remembered what the venue is called, Castlefield Bowl. Also saw Hacienda Classical there.

Ok then

[Penelope Stopit]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Am I the only one who felt a bit disappointed by New Order. Yes, they did some ok stuff, but imho, unlike Joy Division, they were nothing special

Temptation is amazing, have chosen it to be played at my funeral

[rjfp1962]

Penelope Stopit said:

Temptation is amazing, have chosen it to be played at my funeral

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxDv_RTdLQo

Great video too! No harm putting it up again.....!

[Penelope Stopit]

rjfp1962 said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxDv_RTdLQo

Great video too! No harm putting it up again.....!

Thank you, got it

This is the version that I often play

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfuWyd8jpM0

[towser]

vixen1700 said:

bigandclever said:

This might be of interest to some ... pre-orders for signed editions of Fast Forward: Volume 2 by Stephen Morris, £20 to you. Signed Volume 1 goes for about £25 so kerching!

https://www.waterstones.com/book/fast-forward/step...

Quite enjoyed the first one (the acid story ) and got me to discover this obscure treat:

https://youtu.be/J4l9VQSPU7Y

Just started listening to the audiobook of part 1 read by Stephen Morris himself. He’s such a likeable chap.

[rjg48]

Penelope Stopit said:

Temptation is amazing, have chosen it to be played at my funeral

Thieves Like Us wouldn't be a bad call.

www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=thieves+l...

Live on Top of the Pops.

[GC8]

Ceremony: nothing else comes close.

[Penelope Stopit]

rjg48 said:

Penelope Stopit said:

Temptation is amazing, have chosen it to be played at my funeral

Thieves Like Us wouldn't be a bad call.

www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=thieves+l...

Live on Top of the Pops.

Everything is already arranged, there's no going back now

Is the keyboard player the same one as a few years back? I think she is

[rjfp1962]

Yes. Gillian Gilbert has been in New Order since the beginning. I believe she is married to drummer Stephen Morris.

[rjg48]

Penelope Stopit said:

rjg48 said:

Penelope Stopit said:

Temptation is amazing, have chosen it to be played at my funeral

Thieves Like Us wouldn't be a bad call.

www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=thieves+l...

Live on Top of the Pops.

Everything is already arranged, there's no going back now

Is the keyboard player the same one as a few years back? I think she is

Stephen and Gillian made two albums as The Other Two

I have the one by Hooky as Monaco somewhere. On vinyl.

[rjg48]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRhIAQAiTtY

Monaco - What Do You Want From Me?


Had forgotten how good this was.

[bigandclever]

rjg48 said:

I have the one by Hooky as Monaco somewhere. On vinyl.

I’ve got one of his DJ sets on cd somewhere. I think it was from the cover of mixmag

if you know, you know

[rjfp1962]

Why did Hooky leave New Order? Usually there is a clash of characters... Bernard Sumner?

[bigandclever]

rjfp1962 said:

Why did Hooky leave New Order? Usually there is a clash of characters... Bernard Sumner?

Broadly, Hooky thought his bass was getting less and less part of the sound. The rest of them thought he was living in the past.

And then, later: a proper fallout over royalties; the sale of the Hacienda rights; Bad Lieutenant; The Light; ‘ttto’; miming accusations; and Johnny Marr

[rjfp1962]

bigandclever said:

Broadly, Hooky thought his bass was getting less and less part of the sound. The rest of them thought he was living in the past.

And then, later: a proper fallout over royalties; the sale of the Hacienda rights; Bad Lieutenant; The Light; ‘ttto’; miming accusations; and Johnny Marr

Hooky's bass was a key part of the Joy Division sound, and was the driver to so many of their songs - I loved it!

With New Order going down the path of keyboards, synth and new techniques, I guess the bass guitar became redundant...

And royalties/money - The biggest argument in a band......! or one of them..!

[rjg48]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UYnyiL8-VI&li...

Warsaw

Full Album.

[anonymous-user]

GC8 said:

Ceremony: nothing else comes close.

https://youtu.be/NAmyMqL1AkI

1981

New order songs still sound quite modern to me and pretty timeless.

I was surprised looking through their classics on YouTube and seeing all the early and mid 80s dates.