Joy Division

[take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey]

rjg48 said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UYnyiL8-VI&li...

Warsaw

Full Album.

And the band name before joy division.

I recall all the Nazi and anti semitism hooha over the various names.

[Penelope Stopit]

rjfp1962 said:

Yes. Gillian Gilbert has been in New Order since the beginning. I believe she is married to drummer Stephen Morris.

Thank you, got it

[Penelope Stopit]

rjg48 said:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRhIAQAiTtY

Monaco - What Do You Want From Me?


Had forgotten how good this was.

Have heard that in the past, would never have guessed who it was

[Penelope Stopit]

Still a touch off topic

New Order - Crystal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CHdI2yDF4c

Like this very much

[rjg48]

Penelope Stopit said:

rjg48 said:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRhIAQAiTtY

Monaco - What Do You Want From Me?


Had forgotten how good this was.

Have heard that in the past, would never have guessed who it was

Was getting confused.

It was the Hook's Band Revenge who's album I own.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0Cwu9tX060

One True Passion

Early 90s.

[Halmyre]

This may be of interest:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHLbaOLWjpc&ab...

[AJB88]

That is good.

[bigandclever]

New podcast.

http://www.neworder.com/newordernow/2020/10/9/tran...

[Penelope Stopit]

rjg48 said:

Was getting confused.

It was the Hook's Band Revenge who's album I own.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0Cwu9tX060

One True Passion

Early 90s.

Ok then

Mmmm not for me

[Penelope Stopit]

Halmyre said:

This may be of interest:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHLbaOLWjpc&ab...

Clever

[towser]

Stumbled across this on a YouTube meander...best audio quality I’ve heard of a JD concert.

https://youtu.be/13N1vl7sOFQ

[GC8]

That's better than the Factory live records.

[parakitaMol.]

towser said:

Stumbled across this on a YouTube meander...best audio quality I’ve heard of a JD concert.

https://youtu.be/13N1vl7sOFQ

That's super!

I was lucky enough to see them supporting Buzzcocks (at Bournemouth Winter Gardens) on 2nd November 1979

[CoolC]

bigandclever said:

New podcast.

http://www.neworder.com/newordernow/2020/10/9/tran...

Great find. I'll look forward to listening to that.

[rjfp1962]

R.I.P Ian Curtis on what would have been his 65th birthday.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhCLalLXHP4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbeNRHtpgOk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PtvIr2oiaE

[dobly]

Does anyone know who in Joy Division came up with the title Closer?
And is it closer, as in near to, or closer, as in the ending of / the last thing?
Always bugged me, after all these years that I don't know the answers...

[MiseryStreak]

dobly said:

Does anyone know who in Joy Division came up with the title Closer?
And is it closer, as in near to, or closer, as in the ending of / the last thing?
Always bugged me, after all these years that I don't know the answers...

Peter Hook pronounces it as the first meaning in this interview:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rY_Z62mHB2U

It’s a good question though, I’d never thought of the second meaning of the word and the poignancy of that and the tomb on the cover following Curtis’ suicide.

[rjfp1962]

MiseryStreak said:

It’s a good question though, I’d never thought of the second meaning of the word and the poignancy of that and the tomb on the cover following Curtis’ suicide.

I think I read somewhere that the rest of the band just thought Ian's lyrics were just "poetry" and not from far deeper place...!

[AJB88]

MiseryStreak said:

Peter Hook pronounces it as the first meaning in this interview:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rY_Z62mHB2U

It’s a good question though, I’d never thought of the second meaning of the word and the poignancy of that and the tomb on the cover following Curtis’ suicide.

I've always thought it was the first, but heard a few interviews where they said it could mean the 2nd.

[rjfp1962]

Just found this on BBC News website - "Joy Division: Photographer Kevin Cummins on photographing the post-punk icons"
Ian's daughter Natalie asking Kevin specifically, if he'd taken any pictures of her dad smiling...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-5901...