Who Are Your 'Off Switch' Artists?

[Hub]

paulguitar said:

I thought the film 'Yesterday' did this quite well. In a world where there was no Beatles, people then get to hear songs like 'Yesterday' and 'Elenor Rigby' for the first time and are absolutely dumbfounded by how brilliant they are.

Bit flawed really though - the songs wouldn't have a greater impact today than they did 50-60 years ago. Music has evolved and the tracks wouldn't just top the charts now.

[paulguitar]

Hub said:

paulguitar said:

I thought the film 'Yesterday' did this quite well. In a world where there was no Beatles, people then get to hear songs like 'Yesterday' and 'Elenor Rigby' for the first time and are absolutely dumbfounded by how brilliant they are.

Bit flawed really though - the songs wouldn't have a greater impact today than they did 50-60 years ago. Music has evolved and the tracks wouldn't just top the charts now.

To my mind, they are so enormously superior to the chart music of today that actually I suspect they might have even more of an impact. Or has music become so much less important that they'd not get noticed so much? It's a fascinating unknown.

[blingybongy]

paulguitar said:

To my mind, they are so enormously superior to the chart music of today that actually I suspect they might have even more of an impact. Or has music become so much less important that they'd not get noticed so much? It's a fascinating unknown.

Long and Winding Road certainly wouldn't.

[paulguitar]

blingybongy said:

Long and Winding Road certainly wouldn't.

That's a great song. Is it the (talented but flawed music producer) Phil Spector's saccharine choir/orchestra that's the issue? If it is, you're in good company. McCartney hated it too.

[blingybongy]

paulguitar said:

That's a great song. Is it the (talented but flawed music producer) Phil Spector's saccharine choir/orchestra that's the issue? If it is, you're in good company. McCartney hated it too.

Don't know, I just loathe it.

[irocfan]

Hub said:

Bit flawed really though - the songs wouldn't have a greater impact today than they did 50-60 years ago. Music has evolved and the tracks wouldn't just top the charts now.

given that most of the stuff that tops the charts is total and utter shyte that's not really a vote for the quality of music today

[paulguitar]

irocfan said:

Hub said:

Bit flawed really though - the songs wouldn't have a greater impact today than they did 50-60 years ago. Music has evolved and the tracks wouldn't just top the charts now.

given that most of the stuff that tops the charts is total and utter shyte that's not really a vote for the quality of music today

I'd speculate it wouldn't be controversial to suggest that the quality of 'chart' music has deteriorated hugely since the '60s. Having said that, we don't have a real idea of how Beatles songs would do if released into today's market, even though they would clearly be enormously musically superior.

[Hub]

paulguitar said:

irocfan said:

Hub said:

Bit flawed really though - the songs wouldn't have a greater impact today than they did 50-60 years ago. Music has evolved and the tracks wouldn't just top the charts now.

given that most of the stuff that tops the charts is total and utter shyte that's not really a vote for the quality of music today

I'd speculate it wouldn't be controversial to suggest that the quality of 'chart' music has deteriorated hugely since the '60s. Having said that, we don't have a real idea of how Beatles songs would do if released into today's market, even though they would clearly be enormously musically superior.

I'm guessing you're no spring chicken!

Popular music evolves, even if you don't like it. We've seen cycles of musical themes and genres coming back over the years, usually over 20-30 year cycles - the 60s were cool in the 90s etc, but rock and guitar pop have been done to death and now out of fashion for so long they will probably be seen as archaic going forward. The Beatles would not be cool now, but they were at the time because it was fresh, new and exciting.

They did have the benefit of being the first to come up with new melodies and chord progressions, which is probably a lot harder now! The film doesn't really explore the influence that they had overall though, and assumes that music progressed in the same way, just without Oasis!

[paulguitar]

Hub said:

I'm guessing you're no spring chicken!

Popular music evolves, even if you don't like it. We've seen cycles of musical themes and genres coming back over the years, usually over 20-30 year cycles - the 60s were cool in the 90s etc, but rock and guitar pop have been done to death and now out of fashion for so long they will probably be seen as archaic going forward. The Beatles would not be cool now, but they were at the time because it was fresh, new and exciting.

They did have the benefit of being the first to come up with new melodies and chord progressions, which is probably a lot harder now! The film doesn't really explore the influence that they had overall though, and assumes that music progressed in the same way, just without Oasis!

I was born in the '70s.

I think I'm significantly influenced by the fact that I've been performing 200 shows a year for 25 years, which is rather a lot of gigs, and I have an instinct for what I believe to be great music, based on the way the songs 'feel', and I suppose the way they communicate with audiences.

It's nothing at all to do with what is 'cool' or 'fashionable'.

[parakitaMol.]

Alternatively you could just find the sound of the Beatles really grating and their voices really horrible without any deconstructed analysis

The whole of Folk music is just the same, nails on blackboard. Penny whistles, melodians, fiddles and shanties. Awfulness.

[P5BNij]

Nickbrapp said:

blingybongy said:

paulguitar said:

Beatles.


Not sure if serious?

He's not alone. I can't stand The Beetles (sic) either.
Long and Winding road makes me feel physically sick.

I can appreciate their music was probably good when it came out but now it’s just so droll and boring sounding, all the songs sound the same and really nothing special

They where just the one direction of the 60s

Really? Do you think 'Love Me Do' sounds exactly the same as 'Tomorrow Never Knows' or 'Strawberry Fields Forever'?

[blingybongy]

P5BNij said:

Really? Do you think 'Love Me Do' sounds exactly the same as 'Tomorrow Never Knows' or 'Strawberry Fields Forever'?

Pretty much.
In so much as I hate all of them.

[Cloudyday]

My first post so please be kind.
I get that not everyone likes The Beatles, personal choice and all that but surely you don’t think Love Me Do sounds anything like Tomorrow Never Knows!! You might still hate the sound, okay, but the songs are nothing at all similar.

[LunarOne]

Cloudyday said:

My first post so please be kind.
I get that not everyone likes The Beatles, personal choice and all that but surely you don’t think Love Me Do sounds anything like Tomorrow Never Knows!! You might still hate the sound, okay, but the songs are nothing at all similar.

Welcome to Pistonheads! I think you'll find no place on earth with such divergent opinions. You may have realised that already...

[Cloudyday]

Thank you LunarOne. I do, I’ve been reading for a while so just tipping my toes into the water but wanted to join in. More other issues than cars much as I like them. Never really got a chance to get interesting cars much as I want too

[Speed 3]

LunarOne said:

I'm a big fan of Cher and I even like Believe, which was the first songs of its kind where that vocoder/autotune was used deliberately. It inspired two decades of imitators and was therefore a very influential song.

Far superior version by DMA's:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmwFnoMoDDg

[toon10]

There are plenty of artists I dislike but in terms of actually running for the dial, probably...

Beyonce. Especially all the single ladies. The most anger inducing song in history.
Red Hot Chilli Peppers.
Most rap and modern R 'n' B artists

[parakitaMol.]

Cloudyday said:

My first post so please be kind.
I get that not everyone likes The Beatles, personal choice and all that but surely you don’t think Love Me Do sounds anything like Tomorrow Never Knows!! You might still hate the sound, okay, but the songs are nothing at all similar.

Having be physically unable to listen to any of their 'music' without my head bleeding I could not possibly compare song by song or I would actually die - worse than Covid. To me, that jangly jarring bippity bop sound they have is unmistakable and awful. Therefore it's 'all the same' to me - that doesnt mean I can't tell the difference between one awful ditty to another awful ditty.

Welcome to the Head of Pissing Off - oh sorry, that's me, I mean Pistonheads

[paulguitar]

parakitaMol. said:

Having be physically unable to listen to any of their 'music' without my head bleeding I could not possibly compare song by song or I would actually die - worse than Covid. To me, that jangly jarring bippity bop sound they have is unmistakable and awful. Therefore it's 'all the same' to me - that doesnt mean I can't tell the difference between one awful ditty to another awful ditty.

Welcome to the Head of Pissing Off - oh sorry, that's me, I mean Pistonheads

Do you think 'A Day in the Life is a 'ditty'?

[parakitaMol.]

paulguitar said:

parakitaMol. said:

Having be physically unable to listen to any of their 'music' without my head bleeding I could not possibly compare song by song or I would actually die - worse than Covid. To me, that jangly jarring bippity bop sound they have is unmistakable and awful. Therefore it's 'all the same' to me - that doesnt mean I can't tell the difference between one awful ditty to another awful ditty.

Welcome to the Head of Pissing Off - oh sorry, that's me, I mean Pistonheads

Do you think 'A Day in the Life is a 'ditty'?

Nursery rhyme ditty.
Worse than children singing, whistling and Mariah Carey.

Fishing heads.