Are DJs Musicians ?
Discussion
Plotloss said:
The Dude said:
DJs musicians?
Fashionable organ grinders. Nothing more, nothing less.
They have a skill, yes, but it isn't being a musician.
Go and listen to Smokebelch IIFashionable organ grinders. Nothing more, nothing less.
They have a skill, yes, but it isn't being a musician.
I'll look forward to your retraction...
But they ain't musicians.
Ah, now hairs are being split.
Of course a musician can dabble at playing a couple of records at the same time, musical spinning plates if you like.
But does the fact that he does this actually make him a musician?
You could argue "Are DJs bin-men?" if the person spinning the tunes empties your wheelie bin by day.
It's like the old addage about jazz being the last refuge of the untalented. I think it applies extremely well to Norman Cook and DJing.
Of course a musician can dabble at playing a couple of records at the same time, musical spinning plates if you like.
But does the fact that he does this actually make him a musician?
You could argue "Are DJs bin-men?" if the person spinning the tunes empties your wheelie bin by day.
It's like the old addage about jazz being the last refuge of the untalented. I think it applies extremely well to Norman Cook and DJing.
I looked it up...........
mu·si·cian Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[myoo-zish-uhn]
–noun
1. a person who makes music a profession, esp. as a performer of music.
2. any person, whether professional or not, skilled in music.
1. My view is that DJs dont make music a profession, they make "playing music" a profession. A subtle difference.
2. My view is that someone who is already skilled in music may become a DJ but this is as a related secondary skill. Conversely someone who has only ever DJ'd cannot transfer over to the musician side as easily, but thats another argument.
Not all DJs are musicians, but some are. They are different things. A musician can always be a DJ but a DJ is'nt always a musician.
Having said that all that, I'm loving it and would recommend anyone to try it.
mu·si·cian Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[myoo-zish-uhn]
–noun
1. a person who makes music a profession, esp. as a performer of music.
2. any person, whether professional or not, skilled in music.
1. My view is that DJs dont make music a profession, they make "playing music" a profession. A subtle difference.
2. My view is that someone who is already skilled in music may become a DJ but this is as a related secondary skill. Conversely someone who has only ever DJ'd cannot transfer over to the musician side as easily, but thats another argument.
Not all DJs are musicians, but some are. They are different things. A musician can always be a DJ but a DJ is'nt always a musician.
Having said that all that, I'm loving it and would recommend anyone to try it.
Evil Jack said:
Plotloss said:
The Dude said:
You could be onto something there...
as did
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Well, its a start.
Plotloss said:
Evil Jack said:
Plotloss said:
The Dude said:
You could be onto something there...
as did
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Well, its a start.
Edited by Evil Jack on Wednesday 23 January 12:15
sleep envy said:
Plotloss said:
sleep envy said:
but aside from that, he's shite
Can you listen to MP3s at work?
As for Oakie not being a good DJ, he wouldnt be in the position to build a business if he wasnt.
Spectrum rocked (yes I am that old and yes I should have stopped a long time ago)
Sounds like the old skool are dominating things here.
As far as I'm concerned, they're still making music, try listening to something like Sasha's 2005 essential mix where he's remixing on the fly as he goes through using the elements of the songs as he goes. It's as much "musicianship" as anything I reckon. (Oh, and he's also a classically trained pianist!)
Using the definition early doors, a drummer is a musician, and dj's certainly aren't any less so. As for the snob that went on about chord progression, well that's only really any use if you're a string player. Try sitting a woodwind or brass player down with a guitar and asking them to do it then telling them they aren't musicians.
They'd be in a similar state to you being put behind a set of decks and looking and feeling like the prick you sound.
Also, using the definition, someone like Pavarotti isn't a musician?
HMMMMMMMMMMMM.
As far as I'm concerned, they're still making music, try listening to something like Sasha's 2005 essential mix where he's remixing on the fly as he goes through using the elements of the songs as he goes. It's as much "musicianship" as anything I reckon. (Oh, and he's also a classically trained pianist!)
Using the definition early doors, a drummer is a musician, and dj's certainly aren't any less so. As for the snob that went on about chord progression, well that's only really any use if you're a string player. Try sitting a woodwind or brass player down with a guitar and asking them to do it then telling them they aren't musicians.
They'd be in a similar state to you being put behind a set of decks and looking and feeling like the prick you sound.
Also, using the definition, someone like Pavarotti isn't a musician?
HMMMMMMMMMMMM.
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