Lets look at our guitars thread
Discussion
JLC25 said:
singlecoil said:
The main factor will be the density, I think that if a pine body were exactly the same weight as an alder one then the difference would be negligible. But most pine is less dense than most alder, so I would expect a pine guitar which was otherwise identical to have a different ADSR envelope to an alder one.
Ahh well just stick EMGs in so they all sound the same I guess!In any case, I've always felt that how the artist feels about his instrument is going to affect the sound he gets as (which is of course a subjective thing) more than minor differences in the construction. And if the wood it's made from is part of what contributes to that feeling then it's making a difference.
singlecoil said:
Would you want them to all sound the same?
Sarcasm on my part there - I don't own an active guitar and rarely used them. They have their place though. There's a Billy Corgan rig rundown where he speaks about density. Top of my head he speaks about a 70s Strat he owns (which already weigh a ton anyway) which is particularly heavy. He says about it being cut from nearer the centre of the tree so water retention etc. Affects it and how most 70s with this issue sound dull but he has a fondness for it.
While we are/were on the topic of tone, pickups etc... I've heard a lot of (good) hype about Iron Gear pickups. £30 a pop and put the big names to shame apparently. I've been thinking about trying some out but I can't decide what to do for. I want to put them in my Squier Supersonic which has a 2x HB design - I mostly use it to play jazzy funky stuff but like to churn out dense, overdriven stuff from time to time. Main consideration is because it's an original 90s Supersonic, I'd quite like to avoid any physical mods so I don't wanna butcher the scratchplate or anything. I also don't want to have to trial and error my way through the extensive lineup as obvs this would negate any of the benefits of their low price. Has anyone on here got any experience with them?
vsonix said:
While we are/were on the topic of tone, pickups etc... I've heard a lot of (good) hype about Iron Gear pickups. £30 a pop and put the big names to shame apparently. I've been thinking about trying some out but I can't decide what to do for. I want to put them in my Squier Supersonic which has a 2x HB design - I mostly use it to play jazzy funky stuff but like to churn out dense, overdriven stuff from time to time. Main consideration is because it's an original 90s Supersonic, I'd quite like to avoid any physical mods so I don't wanna butcher the scratchplate or anything. I also don't want to have to trial and error my way through the extensive lineup as obvs this would negate any of the benefits of their low price. Has anyone on here got any experience with them?
Yes. Have experience with the Steel Foundry Overwound set in a Tele. Nice but quite noisy tbh. I think i have a Steam Hammer in cream floating about which i'll be happy to let go for a very good price, never wired in?JLC25 said:
oddball1313 said:
I'm of an opposite view with Line 6 gear - had the original Pod XT live which i could never get quite close enough to the sound I wanted and then tried another approach of an M9 into my Marshall JVM Valve amp. The distortions and fuzzes just sound nasty and contrived and the modulations don't even come close to standard Boss pedals. I think their gear always looks better on paper than in practice
Have you had the chance to try a Helix Unit? Been playing with it out the box tonight. Depth of what you can do and tone is incredible. Once I've got it through some monitors I'm fairly certain the difference will be near on impossible to tell for most people. I've always used analog gear, but this is genuinely all I can see myself needing for a long time.
gmaz said:
My latest. 2004 PRS Santana SE bought for £127 on ebay. Previous owner has replaced the pickups with Wizard humbuckers w/ switched coil taps which sound superb. I've never heard of Wizard but apparently they were £80 each and had a good reputation.
I really have a soft spot for PRS...sold mine this year 
I'm not sure why they aren't more prevalent then they are in the guitar world. To me they're a great mix of the best features of Ginson & Fender, play well, feel nicely balanced & decent vfm. I wonder if it's the Korean budget ones with wooly pups & fotoflamey finishes hurting the brand?
Eddie Strohacker said:
I wonder if it's the Korean budget ones with wooly pups & fotoflamey finishes hurting the brand?
I have a customer who paid a lot for one (I hadn't realised they cost that much) and he complains about feedback from the pickups at loud volumes. He will get them changed for something decent when he can afford it.In the meantime, move further away from the amp I guess. I have the same issue with an Ibanez hollowbody.
PRS' do have a 'sound' that I like but cant reproduce when I play one though. Have the same issue with Strats. Infact, the only one that sounded exactly as I heard someone else play was a Wylde Audio Odin into a Marshall JVM which I'd put down to EMGs being EMGs
PRS' do have a 'sound' that I like but cant reproduce when I play one though. Have the same issue with Strats. Infact, the only one that sounded exactly as I heard someone else play was a Wylde Audio Odin into a Marshall JVM which I'd put down to EMGs being EMGs
Eddie Strohacker said:
I'm not sure why they aren't more prevalent then they are in the guitar world. To me they're a great mix of the best features of Ginson & Fender, play well, feel nicely balanced & decent vfm. I wonder if it's the Korean budget ones with wooly pups & fotoflamey finishes hurting the brand?
I think their genesis as an ultra-high end boutique brand which has slowly morphed into a mass produced product hasn't helped. They've lacked any really great players on their books. Al Di Meola is the exception, as a long time PRS user, but aside from that they don't really have any great names. Carlos Santana, maybe, but I can't imagine he'll sell many guitars these days. They don't have great endorsers that will draw in prospective players. vsonix said:
While we are/were on the topic of tone, pickups etc... I've heard a lot of (good) hype about Iron Gear pickups. £30 a pop and put the big names to shame apparently. I've been thinking about trying some out but I can't decide what to do for. I want to put them in my Squier Supersonic which has a 2x HB design - I mostly use it to play jazzy funky stuff but like to churn out dense, overdriven stuff from time to time. Main consideration is because it's an original 90s Supersonic, I'd quite like to avoid any physical mods so I don't wanna butcher the scratchplate or anything. I also don't want to have to trial and error my way through the extensive lineup as obvs this would negate any of the benefits of their low price. Has anyone on here got any experience with them?
Just installed a Steamhammer/Texas Loco set in an HSS Jackson Performer that I'm refurbishing and they really are very good. The Steamhammer sounds very savage but cleans up nicely too. The Locos are quite high output for single coils but again they have very nice clean tones. I am a Seymour Duncan fanboy but to my ears the Irongears give them a run for their money.gmaz said:
My latest. 2004 PRS Santana SE bought for £127 on ebay. Previous owner has replaced the pickups with Wizard humbuckers w/ switched coil taps which sound superb. I've never heard of Wizard but apparently they were £80 each and had a good reputation.
Value!I bought my SE new back in 2003, and still have it. I doubt I'll ever sell it as it's such a good "all-rounder".
Having said that, it's now used for crunchy Blues stuff with a Vox amp as the Ibanez SA360 I bought last year is super for clean tunes through a Princeton.
Loyly said:
I think their genesis as an ultra-high end boutique brand which has slowly morphed into a mass produced product hasn't helped. They've lacked any really great players on their books. Al Di Meola is the exception, as a long time PRS user, but aside from that they don't really have any great names. Carlos Santana, maybe, but I can't imagine he'll sell many guitars these days. They don't have great endorsers that will draw in prospective players.
In the heavier music world, they've nailed the best guitar suited for it under £1000 with the SE Holcombe. Genuinely one of the best production guitars on the market right now!JLC25 said:
In the heavier music world, they've nailed the best guitar suited for it under £1000 with the SE Holcombe. Genuinely one of the best production guitars on the market right now!
"Best guitar suited for it"? In your opinion. The specs aren't what I'd want for a guitar to play heavy music, not to mention the quality of the tops are absolutely rubbish. Mastodon2 said:
"Best guitar suited for it"? In your opinion. The specs aren't what I'd want for a guitar to play heavy music, not to mention the quality of the tops are absolutely rubbish.
Alpha/Omega pickups, flat radius, great scale length for down tuning, satin neck, 24 frets. The only thing I'd say is missing is a Floyd Rose - for me and lots of others that's fine. It's built for a purpose, like the Jim Root Fender - and like that model has sold extremely well, even to people who don't like the artist. The whole package and spec feels more considered than a lot of Jackson/Esp/Schecter offerings. Obviously opinions and all of that, but go into a guitar shop or forum with £1000 budget and ask for a guitar that can do metal - It'll be recommended fairly quick.Again tops wise majority I've seen are more than par for the course - especially at £800.
Chaps
Finally got around to wall mounting my collection, after moving house recently.
So, Right to Left are;
- Gibson Les Paul Studio, 2012
- Fender (MIA) Strat, 1992
- Fender (MIM) Custom 72 Telecaster
- Antoria Jumbo acoustic, 1966 (Resto project)
- Taylor 318 CE electro acoustic, 2016
Cheers!
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