Lets look at our guitars thread

Lets look at our guitars thread

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Stan the Bat

8,932 posts

213 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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Do like LP's without the pickguard. thumbup

Chicken Chaser

7,812 posts

225 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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Mr.Jimbo said:
To be honest if there wasn’t such a gulf in pricing between a Gibson and the Epi I’d have probably gone for an LP standard HP, but at 6x the cost I really couldn’t justify it, but I’ve only just got back into playing. This apparently is a long tenon neck which is the closest you can get to a Gibson and the pickups sound good (but I doubt I’d know the difference between the Epiphone buckers and the 57 Gibson’s mine has)

Interested about Andertons, love their videos and if I hadn’t got such a good deal on this I was going to stop by when I came back to England and get one from them specifically (and knowing my luck play a Gibson as well and get roped into that) - maybe dodged a bullet.

As Chappers would say though mine is the correct “without pick guard” spec, funny story in the cheap Gibson/expensive epiphone video
Dont forget the tone pots and switches are much better than the Epi stuff too. I've got an Epi 335 Pro which sounds great, but the tone controls arent that progressive.

I played a Gibson LP studio and the Epiphone LP Tribute plus alongside each other as there was little in the price when I bought mine. I preferred the feel of the Epiphone so went for that. The Gibson felt unfinished in places.

singlecoil

33,666 posts

247 months

Thursday 6th December 2018
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Chicken Chaser said:
Dont forget the tone pots and switches are much better than the Epi stuff too. I've got an Epi 335 Pro which sounds great, but the tone controls arent that progressive.

I played a Gibson LP studio and the Epiphone LP Tribute plus alongside each other as there was little in the price when I bought mine. I preferred the feel of the Epiphone so went for that. The Gibson felt unfinished in places.
There's no doubt that a set of CTS pots and a couple of decent pickups will improve any Epiphone. Apart from the name on the headstock I really can't see any reason why anyone would prefer a Gibson version.

ilovequo

775 posts

182 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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My Takamine Tan76 - bought on ebay over 10 years ago! Love it...

Has a cpt 1 (valve driven) preamp which sounds great through a system even with my crap playing...


Edited by ilovequo on Monday 10th December 22:39

dojo

741 posts

136 months

Wednesday 12th December 2018
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wombleh said:
...I'd heard that the best Epiphones are the older korean ones...
Don't know about that but the early 80s Jap Squires are the real deal!! Take one of them over a US Fender from the same era any day of the week

vsonix

3,858 posts

164 months

Wednesday 12th December 2018
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Don1 said:
For me personally it's the name. I will always take a Fender over a Squire, a Gibson over an Epiphone. Am I a snob, with delusions of grandeur? Definitely. hehe

All though I loathe Andertons (a long story about very poor customer service), Chappers and The Captain do some brilliant videos, (especially the blindfold challenges). Gibson Vs Epiphone was one such, cheapest Gibson Vs most expensive Epiphone - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsL6X8uG9-U

Anyway, I hope you get to sell it for a price that works for you.
Some of their videos are amusing but many are dross. I don't think it's really helped by the fact that 'The Captain' isn't a massively charismatic guy, some of the interviews he does are not so good. I saw one with Guthrie Govan the other day, Guthrie's clearly a funny guy if a little socially awkward, he usually comes across quite well in interviews but in this one you could really sense that Lee (Captain) wasn't really vibing with him and the whole thing came out really awkward.
In fairness, he obviously knows guitars from years in the business, being able to feel the difference between nitrocellulose and other laquer on a neck blindfold definitely shows he has experience, but he's not a very interesting player which makes a lot of the videos where he's testing or comparing guitars quite dull. I don't know if you've noticed but every time he picks up a guitar, he plays exactly the same lick... which is OK but then he only seem to have that and two others in the repertoire.

Chapman on the other hand is clearly a far more competent player and will explore much more of the tonal range of the instrument as well as play a few different styles and techniques which actually mean I can enjoy listening to the instruments being tested and not get bored of 'that' lick over and over again.

Andertons are obviously doing the right thing with the way they're using the channel to leverage their store at the same time as providing watchable content but at the same time I think to fully succeed they need to get someone else in who is a better foil for Chapman to bounce off and is just a little more interesting to watch play guitar.

Evangelion

7,729 posts

179 months

Wednesday 12th December 2018
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Chappers gets on my nerves TBH. He insists on playing every guitar at maximum speed with maximum distortion, with the result that they all sound exactly the same.

When he starts tuning the bottom string down, I switch off. I hate it when people do that, if you want to play a bass, flog the guitar and buy one.

Chicken Chaser

7,812 posts

225 months

Wednesday 12th December 2018
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I watch a lot of Andertons, That Pedal Show etc but tend to watch more when Pete is on Andertons rather than Chappers as its less of a shred-fest.



OldSkoolRS

6,754 posts

180 months

Wednesday 12th December 2018
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dojo said:
wombleh said:
...I'd heard that the best Epiphones are the older korean ones...
Don't know about that but the early 80s Jap Squires are the real deal!! Take one of them over a US Fender from the same era any day of the week
I've got both: A 1982 JV Squier Strat and a mid 1990s Korean Epiphone Les Paul, both bought new by me and I agree with Dojo.

I've played many other Strats and Les Pauls over the years and I'd take my JV Strat over any of them (though I particularly like a 7.25" radius, which most other Strats don't have).

I would have sold the Epiphone and bought a Gibson one, but it's not worth a great deal and I have since bought a Gibson Les Paul 60s Tribute Gold Top, which has P90s so at least I have the two options for LPs, but I prefer the P90s over the (upgraded Bareknuckle) humbuckers in the Epiphone. I even preferred my friend's 2015 Gibson LP over the Epiphone and the 2015 models aren't particularly well thought of by 'the experts' (nothing wrong with his in my view though, but it didn't have robot tuners which was the main criticism if I recall correctly).

Edited by OldSkoolRS on Wednesday 12th December 17:11

vsonix

3,858 posts

164 months

Wednesday 12th December 2018
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Evangelion said:
Chappers gets on my nerves TBH. He insists on playing every guitar at maximum speed with maximum distortion, with the result that they all sound exactly the same.

When he starts tuning the bottom string down, I switch off. I hate it when people do that, if you want to play a bass, flog the guitar and buy one.
Yeah but it's not *all* he does. Plus his more animated personality makes him generally more entertaining to watch. He's a more lively conversationalist and it shows in the interviews. I'm sure Lee's a good lad and nice to chat to over a pint but imho doesn't have the 'vim' needed to be a compelling presenter.

vsonix

3,858 posts

164 months

Wednesday 12th December 2018
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OldSkoolRS said:
[...] robot tuners [...]
What are/were Gibson thinking?!?
And putting them on an LP Standard, of all models?

I understand experimentation and innovation can be fun but this is the sort of thing best kept confined to the fringes until it has proved itself.

Evangelion

7,729 posts

179 months

Wednesday 12th December 2018
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vsonix said:
Evangelion said:
Chappers gets on my nerves TBH. He insists on playing every guitar at maximum speed with maximum distortion, with the result that they all sound exactly the same.

When he starts tuning the bottom string down, I switch off. I hate it when people do that, if you want to play a bass, flog the guitar and buy one.
Yeah but it's not *all* he does ...
Perhaps he's mellowed recently then, I haven't bothered watching him for at least a year.


ETA - I've just watched the latest Anderton's video, which consists purely of Lee, on his own, demonstrating a guitar. I was impressed, no fretboard wkery and very little extreme fuzz.


Edited by Evangelion on Wednesday 12th December 23:25

vsonix

3,858 posts

164 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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Evangelion said:
When he starts tuning the bottom string down, I switch off. I hate it when people do that, if you want to play a bass, flog the guitar and buy one.
That's personal preference surely? The vast majority of 1990s alternative rock and a lot of metal was written in drop-D tuning, especially the main Seattle grunge bands. In the 00s, Nu-Metal came along, first people were using heavier strings and dropping down to C and B tunings, now we have cheap 'extended range' seven and eight strings that do it better. Of course you could also go for a 6-string baritone guitar. I quite like some of the stuff Mark Letteri does with his...

video here

Then again I also play bass so really don't mind blurring the lines at all.

Even better, get a baritone guitar with dual output so the low strings and high strings to go separate amps!

Edited by vsonix on Thursday 13th December 17:52


Edited by vsonix on Thursday 13th December 17:54

Stan the Bat

8,932 posts

213 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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Chappers does tend to ruin the videos for me.

YMMV

vsonix

3,858 posts

164 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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OK just to potentially muddy the waters even further I was watching some other stuff of theirs and they were both getting on my nerves a bit. Maybe I just need to step back and breathe. Or watch the Belching Swede (Ola Englund) for a bit instead.

Nik Gnashers

771 posts

157 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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ilovequo said:
My Takamine Tan76 - bought on ebay over 10 years ago! Love it...

Has a cpt 1 (valve driven) preamp which sounds great through a system even with my crap playing...


Edited by ilovequo on Monday 10th December 22:39
That's a lovely guitar.
Had a Takamine myself years ago, very nice build quality, I just didn't gel with it for some reason.
I think it was maybe because it was very bright sounding, and I prefer a warmer tone.

Don1

15,950 posts

209 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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There's a 12 string acoustic in a charity shop here in welwyn - £100ish I think. Just an FYI...

Mastodon2

13,826 posts

166 months

Sunday 16th December 2018
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Evangelion said:
Chappers gets on my nerves TBH. He insists on playing every guitar at maximum speed with maximum distortion, with the result that they all sound exactly the same.

When he starts tuning the bottom string down, I switch off. I hate it when people do that, if you want to play a bass, flog the guitar and buy one.
I agreed that Chappers is awful, he's very sloppy and his vibrato is painful to listen to. If you want to go fast, you've got to be clean and have great technique.

What have alternate tunings on guitar got to do with playing bass guitar though? You'll have to enlighten me on this one. You know they tend to have different musical roles right? hehe

Evangelion

7,729 posts

179 months

Sunday 16th December 2018
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Well the bottom string on a guitar is low enough already, and if you take it down any further, it no longer sounds like a guitar, more like musical murder.

(But without the musical bit.)

Nik Gnashers

771 posts

157 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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I guess you chaps are talking about electric guitars yes ?
I use a lot of alternative tunings, but on my acoustic guitar, and it sounds magical. Drop D, DADGAD, DADGBD, DADEAD, CGCGBE, etc....