Following on from gary moore thread.....

Following on from gary moore thread.....

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funk odyssey

1,983 posts

229 months

Tuesday 17th February 2009
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good guitarist does not often equal technical vituosity


Most shredders leave me cold but that could just be the awful guitar demo style production that they all seem to have....


I want a recorded guitar to sound like it's being played in the room with you, to be able to hear little scrapes of the pick etc

a good example is at the beginning of Brown Sugar by the stones -- not even a Keef song but turn up the volume and you can hear the interaction between him and the guitar.


regarding chemistry - I think John Frusciante is amazing but I've hated almost everything RHCPs have done since about '92 - maybe he trancends the band --- Flea certainly does but in a bad way!


Jmmy Page is a good example of a great guitarist who puts lots of soul into his playing -- some say it's very sloppy - it's certainly not shred .... but even a confirmed Fender man like me can tolerate his Les Paul sound!


Slash is another -- I hate Guns n Roses (Velvet Revolver are an irrelevance in comparison though)-- always have done - but Slash has one guitar sound and one type of solo that he squeezes into every band/song/appearence -- it just works and it always sounds great

Ferg

15,242 posts

257 months

Tuesday 17th February 2009
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Stablelad said:
Ferg said:
Stablelad said:
Killer Queen
We Are The Champions
Bo-Rap
Play The Game
Save Me
Don't Stop me Know
Show Must Go On
Keep Yourself Alive, Seven Seas..., Now I'm Here, Ogre Battle, Father To Son, Funny How Love Is, Brighton Rock etc
Meh! Mostly Brian.
...and when the band were at their most exciting! smile

Invisible man

39,731 posts

284 months

Tuesday 17th February 2009
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funk odyssey said:
good guitarist does not often equal technical vituosity


Most shredders leave me cold but that could just be the awful guitar demo style production that they all seem to have....


I want a recorded guitar to sound like it's being played in the room with you, to be able to hear little scrapes of the pick etc

a good example is at the beginning of Brown Sugar by the stones -- not even a Keef song but turn up the volume and you can hear the interaction between him and the guitar.
yes It's more about the space not how many notes you can fit into it, Ry Cooders Paris Texas is a good example...and play the studio version of The Ring by Robin Trower, the amps are up so high you can hear them hum before he hits a note

ratbane

1,374 posts

216 months

Tuesday 17th February 2009
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Stablelad said:
bga said:
Alex Lifeson
Buggermarathonitis!.....There's another awesome player! bounce

Edited by Stablelad on Monday 16th February 21:46
Alex Lifeson is a great example of perfect/appropriate playing in each song. As part of a three piece band he has to get it just right. This is where I am coming from. No other guitarist would make Rush sound like that. Same goes for Page in Zep, Townsend in The Who etc, etc,. It is unlikely that AL would fit perfectly into any other band, but in Rush he is sublime.

Most of the "best" guitarists have grown up with the band that made them successful.

By the way, I still think Queen became a bit of a pantomime act from the early 1980s onwards.

Edited by ratbane on Tuesday 17th February 10:46

funk odyssey

1,983 posts

229 months

Tuesday 17th February 2009
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ratbane said:
Stablelad said:
bga said:
Alex Lifeson
Buggermarathonitis!.....There's another awesome player! bounce

Edited by Stablelad on Monday 16th February 21:46
Alex Lifeson is a great example of perfect/appropriate playing in each song. As part of a three piece band he has to get it just right. This is where I am coming from. No other guitarist would make Rush sound like that. Same goes for Page in Zep, Townsend in The Who etc, etc,. It is unlikely that AL would fit perfectly into any other band, but in Rush he is sublime.

Most of the "best" guitarists have grown up with the band that made them successful.
I hate U2 but The Edge is a good example of your point

ratbane

1,374 posts

216 months

Tuesday 17th February 2009
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funk odyssey said:
ratbane said:
Stablelad said:
bga said:
Alex Lifeson
Buggermarathonitis!.....There's another awesome player! bounce

Edited by Stablelad on Monday 16th February 21:46
Alex Lifeson is a great example of perfect/appropriate playing in each song. As part of a three piece band he has to get it just right. This is where I am coming from. No other guitarist would make Rush sound like that. Same goes for Page in Zep, Townsend in The Who etc, etc,. It is unlikely that AL would fit perfectly into any other band, but in Rush he is sublime.

Most of the "best" guitarists have grown up with the band that made them successful.
I hate U2 but The Edge is a good example of your point
True. I'm no fan of U2 either, but The Edge is a perfect example.


Ferg

15,242 posts

257 months

Tuesday 17th February 2009
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ratbane said:
True. I'm no fan of U2 either, but The Edge is a perfect example.
Not even Boy and October...? scratchchin

Ferg

15,242 posts

257 months

Tuesday 17th February 2009
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ratbane said:
By the way, I still think Queen became a bit of a pantomime act from the early 1980s onwards.
I agree. That's quite a popular opnion in my experience, just not here on PH. smile

chevy-stu

5,392 posts

228 months

Tuesday 17th February 2009
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funk odyssey said:
ratbane said:
Stablelad said:
bga said:
Alex Lifeson
Buggermarathonitis!.....There's another awesome player! bounce

Edited by Stablelad on Monday 16th February 21:46
Alex Lifeson is a great example of perfect/appropriate playing in each song. As part of a three piece band he has to get it just right. This is where I am coming from. No other guitarist would make Rush sound like that. Same goes for Page in Zep, Townsend in The Who etc, etc,. It is unlikely that AL would fit perfectly into any other band, but in Rush he is sublime.

Most of the "best" guitarists have grown up with the band that made them successful.
I hate U2 but The Edge is a good example of your point
Or Andy Summers / The Police...

ratbane

1,374 posts

216 months

Tuesday 17th February 2009
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chevy-stu said:
funk odyssey said:
ratbane said:
Stablelad said:
bga said:
Alex Lifeson
Buggermarathonitis!.....There's another awesome player! bounce

Edited by Stablelad on Monday 16th February 21:46
Alex Lifeson is a great example of perfect/appropriate playing in each song. As part of a three piece band he has to get it just right. This is where I am coming from. No other guitarist would make Rush sound like that. Same goes for Page in Zep, Townsend in The Who etc, etc,. It is unlikely that AL would fit perfectly into any other band, but in Rush he is sublime.

Most of the "best" guitarists have grown up with the band that made them successful.
I hate U2 but The Edge is a good example of your point
Or Andy Summers / The Police...
I suppose so, but Andy Summers was good enough to work with Fripp. I was a big Police fan in the first incarnation, and never really thought AS was that good. I thought he was the most improved during their reunited gigs.

ratbane

1,374 posts

216 months

Tuesday 17th February 2009
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Ferg said:
ratbane said:
True. I'm no fan of U2 either, but The Edge is a perfect example.
Not even Boy and October...? scratchchin
You're not wrong there.

Invisible man

39,731 posts

284 months

Wednesday 18th February 2009
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What are we actually looking for here? someone adept at shredding or twiddling? someone with the identity to create something new, a visionary, experimentalist?

With respect to this I suggest Adam Jones as he, IMO, has the most amazing power and uniqueness of sound that even Fripp said could be seen to influence in Crimsons modern stuff

snowy slopes

Original Poster:

38,828 posts

187 months

Wednesday 18th February 2009
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My original post was just to get people to decide who they thought the greatest guitarist was/is. As this is a very open subject, it could be because they are technically adept, or that they contribute to songs in a particular way, for example rythm guitarists whilst not as flashy as lead, provides the background for the lead guitarist to show off. Now using that analogy, then james hetfield,izzy stradlin and scott ian are all good examples of a great player, but if its showing off you like, then as has been posted steve vai,matt bellamy,zakk wylde and clapton are all good examples. Its entirely upto your individual taste!














P.S. forgot nono from french band trust, now he can play the guitar!

MrOnTheRopes

1,425 posts

246 months

Thursday 19th February 2009
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For people who appreciate beautiful guitar playing biggrin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUpc0YNkkJ0&fea...

End of thread.

None of that 'endless speed notes, fit as many notes as possible into one bar' load of drivel - just good honest lovely tone and feeling.

Could have picked a thousand more videos but that one is fine smile






smiller

11,711 posts

204 months

Thursday 19th February 2009
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I'll see your Clapton, and raise you a Stevie Ray:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWLw7nozO_U

with .13 gauge strings....



MrOnTheRopes

1,425 posts

246 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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smiller said:
I'll see your Clapton, and raise you a Stevie Ray:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWLw7nozO_U

with .13 gauge strings....
Hahaha - now before I clicked that link I was thinking "I hope he's chosen Texas Flood from El Mocambo" biggrin

Yes I love Stevie too

JuniorD

8,627 posts

223 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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I'm a big fan of Tommy Emmanuel and Vai but just got wind of this chap,
John Denner who, most amazingly, was born without a right hand and has only been playing for about 4-5 years.
Watching him do Eddie Van Halen and Vai shreds is humbling

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuepuSokn9M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvYA4TbdNUs (playing 'Eruption')

Bob Loblaw

466 posts

205 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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satchbot said:
Michael Angelo Batio
rofl Possibly the least musical guitar player I could imagine

Ferg

15,242 posts

257 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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Wilko Johnson makes his Tele sing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0sSQtFj42E

bow

funk odyssey

1,983 posts

229 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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Ferg said:
Wilko Johnson makes his Tele sing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0sSQtFj42E

bow
he should never be allowed to sing though ----