Tonights Ross Kemp on Afghanistan...
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Simply the most hard hitting front line coverage yet. Patroling with the Marines, one of them pays with his life when an IED goes off. Just a few hundred yards from Kemp (a civvy). The explosion itself is caught on tape. Cant say I've seen any other programs with Journos in that close to the action.
Moving scenes from Hedly Court earlier too.
And they expect our troops to be in this kack hole for another 15 years or so.
Moving scenes from Hedly Court earlier too.
And they expect our troops to be in this kack hole for another 15 years or so.
i have also watched this tonight and it is trully moving and astonishing what are lads and ladies put up with out there i watched the last series that ross kemp did and this one and it is absouloutely mind blowing. are govement needs to A) support our troops alot better B) pay them what they deserve . because at the moment our govement does not do this. you only have to look at the old landie defenders they were good back in the day but warfare technolige has advanced so much the landies are no good for this any more. are lads need something better stronger tougher quicker.
this is why i also back help for hereos all the way and have done several things to help raise money for are troops. and if the govement rekon anouther 15 years they best help are troops now. before the casualties of war will become even greater than they need to be.
this is why i also back help for hereos all the way and have done several things to help raise money for are troops. and if the govement rekon anouther 15 years they best help are troops now. before the casualties of war will become even greater than they need to be.
Didn't manage to see this last night but will watch Sky+ later on.
As for Journalist being that close to the action, read this
http://www.amazon.com/Generation-Kill-Captain-America-American/dp/0399151931
Hope the link worked...
Its also a tv series now. not seen it yet
Ross
As for Journalist being that close to the action, read this
http://www.amazon.com/Generation-Kill-Captain-America-American/dp/0399151931
Hope the link worked...
Its also a tv series now. not seen it yet
Ross
Eric Mc said:
And didn't John Simpson find himself right in the middle of a Friendly Fire incident when a US Navy F-14 bombed the journalist's convoy rather than the correct target?
I believe so. Believe he was hit by some flying debris too, remember seeing him lying on the floor holding his stomach. Wasn't he with a convey and one of the other trucks was completely destroyed ?smifffymoto said:
I've got rid of sky.Is it on the web anywhere? I look but can't find it(1 st two episodes were brill,then got rid)
Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryA-y3XkY2c&fea...I don't have sky and have watched the whole series on youtube.
Eric Mc said:
And didn't John Simpson find himself right in the middle of a Friendly Fire incident when a US Navy F-14 bombed the journalist's convoy rather than the correct target?
Yeah - but that was because he was in the right place at the wrong time. Kemp and his crew have delberately put themselves in harm's way. I always used to think he was an "all mouth and trousers" pretend TV "hard man". Not any more. The man has steel ones.Simpo Two said:
I wonder why Kemp didn't join the Army to start with, rather than becoming an actor and rather naively promoting New Labour?
Because he wanted to be an actor more, I suppose.Often, people don't realise that they have an alternative potential career in them until later in life.
I would liken his experiences in Afghanistan to the experiences of those who fought in WW2. Back then, most soldiers were civilians who had never intended to fight a war but ended up because of circumstances in the front line. They just had to get on with it. Professional soldiers are different in that they are doing what they always wanted to do (up to point).
audidoody said:
Eric Mc said:
And didn't John Simpson find himself right in the middle of a Friendly Fire incident when a US Navy F-14 bombed the journalist's convoy rather than the correct target?
Yeah - but that was because he was in the right place at the wrong time. Kemp and his crew have delberately put themselves in harm's way. I always used to think he was an "all mouth and trousers" pretend TV "hard man". Not any more. The man has steel ones.Kemp takes 'embedding' to a different league. CLearly s
tting himself at times, he still goes forward right to the point of conflict. He also has the bottle and balls to tell it like it is, and isnt constrained by Beeb editorial directives to give 'balanced and politically correct' reporting. FFS the Beeb would have us listening to how unfair it was for taliban insurgents to not be given their oppertunity to present their objectives....Eric Mc said:
And didn't John Simpson find himself right in the middle of a Friendly Fire incident when a US Navy F-14 bombed the journalist's convoy rather than the correct target?
No.The specials who they were traveling with spotted an active MBT, sent the grid co-ordinates to air, BUT they (the civs) made the error of grouping by a disabled MBT to watch the strike going in..................
War journos put themselves into some very dangerous situations - mainly pushed forward by the media circus that they report for. A fairly famous TV news journo was looking to buy my boat a few years ago to retire on in France. We went out for a plod around the Solent, and got some time to talk about his retirement - he looked a bit young for that.
A couple of years previously, he was on a boat running around the Gulf and was attacked by fairly heavy fire. The result was that the boat was blown up, and he was thrown high into the air, coming down on the transom of the boat, breaking his back. That was the point he decided it wasn't worth it any more.
I asked about his options to stay a little further back from the dangerous stuff, and he said that although you are not 'forced' to get right in there, the news companies suggest that 'it is good for your continuing career' if you do get as close to the action as possible - in short, get in, or get sacked.
RK makes the choice to front the programme and go there himself - he either likes the excitement or is quite brave. The output seems to be a very good insight into what our brave lads and lasses face on a daily basis. Good tele.
[selfish_coward] Rather them than me.... [/selfish_coward].
Question: If you were ever on holiday abroad and bumped into Kate Aidie, would you pack up and go home?
A couple of years previously, he was on a boat running around the Gulf and was attacked by fairly heavy fire. The result was that the boat was blown up, and he was thrown high into the air, coming down on the transom of the boat, breaking his back. That was the point he decided it wasn't worth it any more.
I asked about his options to stay a little further back from the dangerous stuff, and he said that although you are not 'forced' to get right in there, the news companies suggest that 'it is good for your continuing career' if you do get as close to the action as possible - in short, get in, or get sacked.
RK makes the choice to front the programme and go there himself - he either likes the excitement or is quite brave. The output seems to be a very good insight into what our brave lads and lasses face on a daily basis. Good tele.
[selfish_coward] Rather them than me.... [/selfish_coward].
Question: If you were ever on holiday abroad and bumped into Kate Aidie, would you pack up and go home?
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