You Tube blocking music videos for UK

[pistonlager]

Neil_H said:

I agree, what they should be doing is seeing Youtube as a marketing tool, not a point of sale. It's not Itunes. The music industry is a dinosaur and they just can't get their heads around the internet, they're still clinging to the traditional way of selling music and it just isn't going to work any more.
If MP3s hadn't come along we'd all still be paying 18 quid for a fking CD.

If I had some nails I'd be banging them on the head for you.
I'm glad they're not paying YT to plug signed bands.
I'm all for downloads, especially when you can hear 20 seconds of a song from the album you want,
that way you can make sure you're not buying a lemon.
I paid £20 for Graham Cox's solo album a few years back, had I been able to preview HMV would have been £20 poorer. Me no like!

[chevy-stu]

Adam B said:

chevy-stu said:

I don't think it's a a right or wrong move... I think that PRS felt they should do something to protect the artists who are having their work listened to/viewed for free.

like the radio?!?!?

do people really sit and watch youtube rather than buying a CD or downloading a track? maybe I am getting old but I want to listen to the music in the car / in deent quality on my stereo at home etc, I don't want to have my PC playing youtube

youtube was a great resource for rarer music and smaller bands, used to use it to research music which I then buy if i like

Not really as the radio stations like venues, pubs etc.. pay large amounts in royalties via people like PRS to the artists & publishers.

Yes, some people do listen to rubbish quality and poor pictures of stuff on youtube rather than buy it.. Same as the kids you see listening to songs on 1/4" speakers on mobile phones, sounds terrible but they don't care, most poeple can't tell the difference between a vinyl record, CD or 98mb MP3
I too personally prefer a reasonable level of sound quality, but we are in the minority..

[pistonlager]

chevy-stu said:

Adam B said:

chevy-stu said:

I don't think it's a a right or wrong move... I think that PRS felt they should do something to protect the artists who are having their work listened to/viewed for free.

like the radio?!?!?

do people really sit and watch youtube rather than buying a CD or downloading a track? maybe I am getting old but I want to listen to the music in the car / in deent quality on my stereo at home etc, I don't want to have my PC playing youtube

youtube was a great resource for rarer music and smaller bands, used to use it to research music which I then buy if i like

Not really as the radio stations like venues, pubs etc.. pay large amounts in royalties via people like PRS to the artists & publishers.

Yes, some people do listen to rubbish quality and poor pictures of stuff on youtube rather than buy it.. Same as the kids you see listening to songs on 1/4" speakers on mobile phones, sounds terrible but they don't care, most poeple can't tell the difference between a vinyl record, CD or 98mb MP3
I too personally prefer a reasonable level of sound quality, but we are in the minority..

I think the world has lost the art of listening, It's only musicians and audio buffs who really care nowadays.
Everyones gone compression mad!
If record companies and the PRS want to raise more revenue they should release a licence for albums to be produced by small run vinyl plants.
Then those who want to appreciate all the studio work gone into an album can then hear it properly/nicely

Edited by pistonlager on Wednesday 11th March 13:28

[Scraggles]

a lot of the music I listen to is elctronically made, eg goa and psy trance, putting it onto vinyl and then back to mp3 is pointless, can't play vinyl in my car very easily ?

[pistonlager]

Scraggles said:

a lot of the music I listen to is elctronically made, eg goa and psy trance, putting it onto vinyl and then back to mp3 is pointless, can't play vinyl in my car very easily ?

That's cos it's easy music.
Had it been recorded on 2inch tape, valve desk and real analogue synths It would be greatly more appreciated on vinyl.
'Any colour you like' of 'dark side of the moon' is a good marker... Or 'on the run'

Edited by pistonlager on Thursday 12th March 08:06

[Scraggles]

u miss the point, I like the electronic music,

currently listening to:-

http://70.85.113.10:8004
Network received: 37390169 bytes
Server: SHOUTcast Distributed Network Audio Server/win32 v1.9.8
Content-Type: audio/mpeg
Metadata received: 5075 bytes
Metadata interval: 8192 bytes
Stream name: ((((( ( ( ( ( ( ( M U N D O P S Y ) ) ) ) ) ) ))))))))
Current title: VA - Psy Trance Euphoria Mixed By John Oo Fleming (Heaven And Hell)

pink floyd and the like is ok, but not my sort of music

[pistonlager]

Scraggles said:

u miss the point, I like the electronic music,

currently listening to:-

http://70.85.113.10:8004
Network received: 37390169 bytes
Server: SHOUTcast Distributed Network Audio Server/win32 v1.9.8
Content-Type: audio/mpeg
Metadata received: 5075 bytes
Metadata interval: 8192 bytes
Stream name: ((((( ( ( ( ( ( ( M U N D O P S Y ) ) ) ) ) ) ))))))))
Current title: VA - Psy Trance Euphoria Mixed By John Oo Fleming (Heaven And Hell)

pink floyd and the like is ok, but not my sort of music

That's fine, I'm just saying todays Electronica is made differently,
I used that floyd song as a reference because it's truly analogue and will almost certainly have a fuller sound than if it was made today.

[Scraggles]

have to agree with that

[neilr]

Trouble with the music industry is that it knows no end to its greed. It wants you to pay for the music you listen to (not unreasonable really) and then, once it has your money, it wants more, and even then thats still not enough.

The whole PRS extracting money from small firms having the radio on at work or for example in garages where customers might here it, is disgusting. It already collects monies from the Media that plays the music, in this case radio, but no, the industry wants to be paid for that twice. Its hypocrisy knows no bounds.

The old line of 'protecting artists interests' is a crock and always has been. It's simply a case of a man behind an industry desk thinking "someones listening to music and not paying me, I can't have that happening" A bit like the fiasco a while back when certain artists (yes im looking at you Arctic Monkeys) wanted to set up a system to get a percentage of resold tickets for live shows. How they ever thought they would police that is anyones guess, but it was just as contempable.

[Scraggles]

have bought a load of cd's when changed from casettes, these days it is easier to download whole albums for free off the net, certainly easier than driving into town and looking at CD's with a few nice tracks on and mostly tat

music downloads directory is a bit under 6 GB, all of it legal and released under creative commons licence, just in case peeps thought had swiped it