The Beatles why does every one think they were so great?
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Nadyenka said:
I do not understand why every one say how great they were.I do not like any of the music they have make.Why do so many persons love them so much I am not try to insult them I just do not understand why so many persons say they were so good.
Right place, right time.They were the first band to write and perform their own compositions which were at least in the latter times nicely structured, generally catchy tunes with good harmony for the day and generally the right length for a radio single.
Did anyone mention the fact that the girls loved them and where the girls went the boys followed.
Saw them in concert in 1964, didn't hear a thing but being in the middle of a crush of thousands of hot and panting young TLMs ( tasty little morsels ) certainly made up for that.
Apart from Revolver and Sgt Peppers didn't think much of them at the time but with more listening there really is some classy and clever writing in most of their songs.
Edited by suthol on Tuesday 7th April 13:02
right place, right time, right songs sums it up perfectly. they made rock/r&b more accessible and agreeable to parents/radio/tv. partly as they were nice cheery white boys with english manners rather than southern US hellraisers.
with things like this you really can't imagine what it must have been like at the time. i liken it to the era in which i discovered music, loads of crappy pop and dance then britpop exploded and i was hooked. you have to remember that the early 60's was really the birth of the teenager, who went to parties and had disposable income.
i have to be in the mood for early beatles but when i am the songwriting is quite brilliant. i do prefer the later, heavier/darker [?] material though. if i had to choose i would also say i preferred the early rock, r&b and doo wop that preceeded them.
i would recommend the book "Awopbopaloobop Alopbamboom" by Nik Cohn. written in the late 60's by a 22yr old, pretty good dissection of the rise of pop culture and the bands within it.
with things like this you really can't imagine what it must have been like at the time. i liken it to the era in which i discovered music, loads of crappy pop and dance then britpop exploded and i was hooked. you have to remember that the early 60's was really the birth of the teenager, who went to parties and had disposable income.
i have to be in the mood for early beatles but when i am the songwriting is quite brilliant. i do prefer the later, heavier/darker [?] material though. if i had to choose i would also say i preferred the early rock, r&b and doo wop that preceeded them.
i would recommend the book "Awopbopaloobop Alopbamboom" by Nik Cohn. written in the late 60's by a 22yr old, pretty good dissection of the rise of pop culture and the bands within it.
OP - imagine if all the music you ever heard up until this point was The Beatles, day in day out.
And then today you hear "NWA - f
k the police"
that must have been the kind of impact the beatles had on the nation (I wasn't alive during the 60s)
find it very odd that a music lover can't find half a dozen Beatles songs they think are great
And then today you hear "NWA - f
k the police"that must have been the kind of impact the beatles had on the nation (I wasn't alive during the 60s)
find it very odd that a music lover can't find half a dozen Beatles songs they think are great
Edited by Adam B on Saturday 11th April 12:08
The White ablum is excellent and some of the songs sound like they have been written today, so you can tell what an influnce they have had on other bands (listen to The Last Shadow Puppets). Glass Onion and Helter Skelter are great great songs.
I had not listened to some of The Beatles albums for a while as for some reason I had really gotten into The Who and The Stones again, however got some old ablums out over Xmas and I had forgotten how good they sounded. Out of all the albums they written The White album (or The Beatles what ever you want to call it) and Abbey Road are the best.
I had not listened to some of The Beatles albums for a while as for some reason I had really gotten into The Who and The Stones again, however got some old ablums out over Xmas and I had forgotten how good they sounded. Out of all the albums they written The White album (or The Beatles what ever you want to call it) and Abbey Road are the best.
Before electricity, we were a primitive folk, living on nuts and berries.
There wasn't the originality and spontaneity you young people hold so dear.
No lad, the population of London in the 1960's was about 34, and were quite unaware that a few exotic scallies were about to toss their hormonal ejaculate at our poor backward lady folk.
fk me, are you for real, OP?
At the time, the Beatles were writing ground breaking fresh tunes, albeit with influences from the blues and classical styles and the odd class A.
A modern car analogy would be to produce a sub 10K vehicle that ran on corn with the same finesse as a brand new Audi A6 that could fly.
Has any band you know recently produced a consistent body of music that has changed the course of history.
Look and listen again, IN CONTEXT.
and if you don't like it, well doopy doo, I don't like anything by Strauss...
There wasn't the originality and spontaneity you young people hold so dear.
No lad, the population of London in the 1960's was about 34, and were quite unaware that a few exotic scallies were about to toss their hormonal ejaculate at our poor backward lady folk.
f
k me, are you for real, OP?At the time, the Beatles were writing ground breaking fresh tunes, albeit with influences from the blues and classical styles and the odd class A.
A modern car analogy would be to produce a sub 10K vehicle that ran on corn with the same finesse as a brand new Audi A6 that could fly.
Has any band you know recently produced a consistent body of music that has changed the course of history.
Look and listen again, IN CONTEXT.
and if you don't like it, well doopy doo, I don't like anything by Strauss...
Republik said:
Their music was so different from anything previous. Imagine going from Frank Sinatra, Andy Williams and the rest of the rat pack in the 1950s to The Beatles. It was a huge change and took the world by storm. Imo there songs still sound fresh today.
the 50's wasn't all about easy listening you know! some of my favourite records of all time are from the 50's. get yourself an atlantic records or chess records compilation!the beatles were an extension of the blues/doo-wop/r&b/rock progression, with their idols being the likes of gene vincent, eddie cochran, chuck berry etc. there is definite lineage in their music and the obvious tributes in their cover versions.
the 'anthology 1' album gives good flavour of the influences acting upon the band.
Edited by shirt on Tuesday 7th April 16:26
Nadyenka said:
I do not understand why every one say how great they were.I do not like any of the music they have make.Why do so many persons love them so much I am not try to insult them I just do not understand why so many persons say they were so good.
People might be better able to explain what it is that they care about and you don't if you tell them what kind of music you do like. From a quick scan through your posting history, I get the impression that you are unimpressed by subtlety, but that's probably unfair.shirt said:
Republik said:
Their music was so different from anything previous. Imagine going from Frank Sinatra, Andy Williams and the rest of the rat pack in the 1950s to The Beatles. It was a huge change and took the world by storm. Imo there songs still sound fresh today.
the 50's wasn't all about easy listening you know! some of my favourite records of all time are from the 50's. get yourself an atlantic records or chess records compilation!the beatles were an extension of the blues/doo-wop/r&b/rock progression, with their idols being the likes of gene vincent, eddie cochran, chuck berry etc. there is definite lineage in their music and the obvious tributes in their cover versions.
the 'anthology 1' album gives good flavour of the influences acting upon the band.
Edited by shirt on Tuesday 7th April 16:26
Nadyenka said:
I do not understand why every one say how great they were.I do not like any of the music they have make.Why do so many persons love them so much I am not try to insult them I just do not understand why so many persons say they were so good.
If you have to ask you'll never understand the answer. ( a quote stolen from the fifties about jazz)It is not that I hate music from that time because some I love The Doors,Jimi Hendrix,The Rolling Stones also Led Zepplin are from the same time?.But I do not like the music The Beatles make and I do not understand why so many persons think they are the best ever.
I do not hate them or feel bad that they make their music but it does not interest me.
I do not hate them or feel bad that they make their music but it does not interest me.
Edited by Nadyenka on Tuesday 7th April 19:35
Nadyenka said:
It is not that I hate music from that time because some I love The Doors,Jimi Hendrix,The Rolling Stones also Led Zepplin are from the same time?.But I do not like the music The Beatles make and I do not understand why so many persons think they are the best ever.
I do not hate them or feel bad that they make their music but it does not interest me.
My son has very much the same tastes as yourself, big fan of the bands you mention. He can't stand the Beatles. As I grew up listening to some seriously boring music in the 50s, the Beatles arrived as a breath of fresh air. All the good 50s music had been hidden from most of us; the BBC Light programme played music that was not even remotely interesting. What the Beatles did was introduce the majority of the country to another type of music and with George Martin, created a whole new way of writing and recording music. If you want to know what they replaced, the first time I ever saw them, top of the Bill was Helen Shapiro. Who? I can hear you ask. This at the Matrix Ballroom Coventry. Just to add a boring bid of pedantry, Led Zep are in real terms much later than the Beatles. The Stones needed a Beatles song, I Wanna Be Your Man, to record and wake them up to the fact they needed to write their own stuff. The Stones up until then had covered American R&B . Just one example of how the Beatles led the music scene. I suppose you had to be there. But given the choice of a Paul McCartney or a Stones concert, it would be The Stones by a mileI do not hate them or feel bad that they make their music but it does not interest me.
Edited by Nadyenka on Tuesday 7th April 19:35
The only reason the Beatles were so big is because they were well marketed. Loads of other bands around at the time doing the same thing, this one just picked it up well.
Then one got shot, so anyone will be allowed to live on forever if one dies early or gets shot. Such as:
Tupac, Glenn Miller, Elvis and Beatles.
Then one got shot, so anyone will be allowed to live on forever if one dies early or gets shot. Such as:
Tupac, Glenn Miller, Elvis and Beatles.
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