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[tuscaneer]

Swervin_Mervin said:

Oooh, interesting one. Surprised to see no Tool in there! 20 is tough - I could easily add another 10 to the following list!)

Here's mine (for today at least) - it is pretty eclectic, but these really are the albums that have shaped my taste in music the most:

Fleetwood Mac - Rumours
Peter Gabriel - So
The Doors - L.A. Woman
Mike Oldfield - Crises
The Cure - All Mixed Up (it's a best of - apologies but I was young!)
XL Recordings - Chapter 2
The Prodigy - Experience
Pantera - Cowboys From Hell
Fear Factory - Demanufacture/Remanufacture
Rage Against The Machine - Evil Empire
Orbital - In Sides
Deftones - White Pony
Tool - Aenima
A Perfect Circle - Thirteenth Step
SikTh - Death of A Dead Day
Protest The Hero - Fortress
Karnivool - Sound Awake
Cog - Sharing Space
Middle Class Rut - Pick Up Your Head
Aesop Rock - The Impossible Kid

Edited by Swervin_Mervin on Friday 17th May 11:01

yeah man, tool didn't hit me at a time that really shaped me...same goes for the cure. great band but they weren't pivitol to me in the way depeche mode were with violator.....i'd been aware of them since i was about 10 when my old fella brought home some great reward but i was 15 when violator hit and was floored...that was around the same time i got pretty hate machine and that fusion of my heavier tastes with the modey side of things knocked me dead!..

as much as i love white pony it was was around the fur from a couple of years earlier that blew me away... adrenaline got me going, around the fur is probably in my top 3 most influential albums.....

actually, i don't know how i missed it but meantime by helmet should easily have been in my list too..



stuff that you would expect me to have been moulded by like pantera and fear factory , not so much!.... ... i was a massive ministry guy though..the mind is a terrible thing to taste probably should have made my list too...

[tuscaneer]

Google [bot] said:

Oh well, a probably welcome thread derail.

Pink Floyd - The Wall
Pink Floyd - Dark side of the moon
Frankie Goes To Hollywood - Welcome to the pleasuredome
Peel Sessions - Napalm Death, various
Metallica - and justice for all
Metallica - Garage day’s re-revisited
The Beatles - Abbey Road
Entombed - Clandestine
Iron Maiden - Live after death

I’m sure there are more, just wanted to get them out.

Anyone listen to Intense Degree?

my floyd album was momentary lapse of reason...learning to fly was one of those "moments" for me...

it was and justice for all that got me with metallica as it was the release of that album that showed me how un-heavy maiden were
but it didn't resonate with me the way master of puppets did when i got it a few weeks later working backwards through the albums

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tuscaneer said:

my floyd album was momentary lapse of reason...learning to fly was one of those "moments" for me...

it was and justice for all that got me with metallica as it was the release of that album that showed me how un-heavy maiden were
but it didn't resonate with me the way master of puppets did when i got it a few weeks later working backwards through the albums

I do like Puppets but the often criticized production of Justice is gorgeously smooth.

So many folk like Kill ‘Em All but I reckon it’s crap.

[Google [bot]]

Also Revelations on Live After Death is tear enducing. It’s beautiful.

[Swervin_Mervin]

You can see my early familial influences - that list is pretty well in time order.

I was pretty much only into breakbeat and early techno up to about the age of 16 though. I can't remember what first switched me back to rock and then metal - it was either Nirvana (despite having memories of really disliking them when they first became widely known) or Metallica.

Metallica was Ride the Lightning for me closely followed by MoP, but it was really only when Machine Head released Davidian that I was hooked on metal. I was pretty split in terms of metal tastes - loved Pantera and that heavier dirty side, but my dance influences also had me into bands like Pitchshifter which got me on to Fear Factory's Remanufacture, and then became a big fan of all their work. My dirty rock tastes had me into Monster Magnet, whilst my Cure thing had me get more into Deftones and Tool. Then I hit on Karnivool and a bunch of Aussie bands, Dead Letter Circus, Cog, Floating Me (awesome single album). Let's not also forget the lies of Beastie Boys, Wu-Tang Clan. In reality my list of influences would be utterly massive!

Gradually over time my tastes have not only broadened, but also in each genre become fairly focussed. An example of that would be prog metal. Love Sikth and PTH, can't get into Opeth or Dillinger Escape Plan no matter how many time I listen.

I've also just realised one fairly MASSIVE influence that I've missed out, so I'll adjust my list. Faith No More. A fecking huge fan in fact. Also a fairly big fan of RHCP's from One Hot Minute backwards right to their very early stuff.

Edited by Swervin_Mervin on Friday 17th May 12:44

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Your standout one for me is Cowboys From Hell, which is genius, somehow.

If you’ve not listened to the napalm death grind core at the bbc I advise you to do so, it’s devastatingly powerful, a sublime balance of punk and grind. I recall having a moment in my 928 wearing an ND T-shirt and playing nd, a proper moment.

I forget what I was saying as I’m hours ahead of you on a Friday night but you get the idea.

[JaymzDead]

Nice slight thread diversion, mine would be:

Metallica - ...And Justice For All
Slayer - South of Heaven
Deep Purple - Made In Japan
Neurosis - Through Silver In Blood
Corrosion of Conformity - Deliverance
Turmoil - The Process Of...
Acid Bath - When the Kite String Pops
Down - Nola
Sick of it All - Just Look Around
Obituary - Cause of Death
Crowbar - Odd Fellows Rest
Ministry - Psalm 69
Emperor - Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk
Queen - Greatest Hits Vol 1 (a slight cop out listing a greatest hits but I remember listening to this at several relatives houses and it having a massive affect on me)
The Prodigy - Music for a Jilted Generation
Wu Tang Clan - Enter the 36 Chambers
Megadeth - Rust In Peace
Sepultura - Chaos AD
Morbid Angel - Altars of Madness
Tool - Aenima

I could probably go on and like tuscaneer, my list would probably vary slightly dependent on what mood you catch me in!!

[tuscaneer]

Swervin_Mervin said:

You can see my early familial influences - that list is pretty well in time order.

I was pretty much only into breakbeat and early techno up to about the age of 16 though. I can't remember what first switched me back to rock and then metal - it was either Nirvana (despite having memories of really disliking them when they first became widely known) or Metallica.

Metallica was Ride the Lightning for me closely followed by MoP, but it was really only when Machine Head released Davidian that I was hooked on metal. I was pretty split in terms of metal tastes - loved Pantera and that heavier dirty side, but my dance influences also had me into bands like Pitchshifter which got me on to Fear Factory's Remanufacture, and then became a big fan of all their work. My dirty rock tastes had me into Monster Magnet, whilst my Cure thing had me get more into Deftones and Tool. Then I hit on Karnivool and a bunch of Aussie bands, Dead Letter Circus, Cog, Floating Me (awesome single album). Let's not also forget the lies of Beastie Boys, Wu-Tang Clan. In reality my list of influences would be utterly massive!

Gradually over time my tastes have not only broadened, but also in each genre become fairly focussed. An example of that would be prog metal. Love Sikth and PTH, can't get into Opeth or Dillinger Escape Plan no matter how many time I listen.

I've also just realised one fairly MASSIVE influence that I've missed out, so I'll adjust my list. Faith No More. A fecking huge fan in fact. Also a fairly big fan of RHCP's from One Hot Minute backwards right to their very early stuff.

Edited by Swervin_Mervin on Friday 17th May 12:44

yeah i get that.... OG by ice t was a big part of my youth as was straight outa compton.....i got into more hip hop later with wu tang myself and loved the darker side of rap with guys like capone & noreaga.... but none of it shaped me massively in a musical sense as it wasn't massively applicable with me being a guitarist...still loved a lot of it though and the rap/rock mash ups really got me when done properly.....anthrax/public enemy pretty much the first collab that set a fire under me......by the time guys like nas were doing tracks with korn i lost my st......

so, i suppose in that respect hip hop had a big influence on my style in that the bouncier/crunchier stuff like downset and biohazard, along with helmet , made me play a certain way.....


the whole grunge thing left me completely cold ( with the exception of soundgarden which always felt deeper).... which is ironic as you can pretty much site the entire cause of grunge being when black flag came to seattle in '83 on the my war tour....pretty much every major figure that would emerge in grunge was at that show....my war was my second favourite black flag album after damaged frightened me to death when i was 13

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Google [bot] said:

If you’ve not listened to the napalm death grind core at the bbc I advise you to do so, it’s devastatingly powerful, a sublime balance of punk and grind. I recall having a moment in my 928 wearing an ND T-shirt and playing nd, a proper moment.

I forget what I was saying as I’m hours ahead of you on a Friday night but you get the idea.

I second the Napalm Death comment. Remains one of the finest pieces of extreme music ever recorded, and still sounds utterly ferocious all these years later. There's heavier and faster stuff now, but none of it has that same loose and human feel as those Peel Sessions. Seems to permanently teeter on the brink of spinning out of control, yet manages to just about keep it together.

Oh, and yes, still listen to Intense Degree now and again, mostly "War in my Head". Underrated stuff.

[tuscaneer]

JaymzDead said:

Nice slight thread diversion, mine would be:

Metallica - ...And Justice For All
Slayer - South of Heaven
Deep Purple - Made In Japan
Neurosis - Through Silver In Blood
Corrosion of Conformity - Deliverance
Turmoil - The Process Of...
Acid Bath - When the Kite String Pops
Down - Nola
Sick of it All - Just Look Around
Obituary - Cause of Death
Crowbar - Odd Fellows Rest
Ministry - Psalm 69
Emperor - Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk
Queen - Greatest Hits Vol 1 (a slight cop out listing a greatest hits but I remember listening to this at several relatives houses and it having a massive affect on me)
The Prodigy - Music for a Jilted Generation
Wu Tang Clan - Enter the 36 Chambers
Megadeth - Rust In Peace
Sepultura - Chaos AD
Morbid Angel - Altars of Madness
Tool - Aenima

I could probably go on and like tuscaneer, my list would probably vary slightly dependent on what mood you catch me in!!

although peace sells was my megadeth "moment"..... yeah, rust in peace was the best album, the pinnicle of thrash....south of heaven was actually my favourite slayer album too as it was so much slower, therefore, heavier, to my ears than earlier offerings....seasons in the abyss was their best album for me for similar reasons...1990 was the zenith of thrash to me...

sepultura's best was roots but beneath the remains was when i got onto them, very dark at the time!



cap doff to made in japan too.... ilistened to that on loop for years as a kid!

[Swervin_Mervin]

tuscaneer said:

Swervin_Mervin said:

You can see my early familial influences - that list is pretty well in time order.

I was pretty much only into breakbeat and early techno up to about the age of 16 though. I can't remember what first switched me back to rock and then metal - it was either Nirvana (despite having memories of really disliking them when they first became widely known) or Metallica.

Metallica was Ride the Lightning for me closely followed by MoP, but it was really only when Machine Head released Davidian that I was hooked on metal. I was pretty split in terms of metal tastes - loved Pantera and that heavier dirty side, but my dance influences also had me into bands like Pitchshifter which got me on to Fear Factory's Remanufacture, and then became a big fan of all their work. My dirty rock tastes had me into Monster Magnet, whilst my Cure thing had me get more into Deftones and Tool. Then I hit on Karnivool and a bunch of Aussie bands, Dead Letter Circus, Cog, Floating Me (awesome single album). Let's not also forget the lies of Beastie Boys, Wu-Tang Clan. In reality my list of influences would be utterly massive!

Gradually over time my tastes have not only broadened, but also in each genre become fairly focussed. An example of that would be prog metal. Love Sikth and PTH, can't get into Opeth or Dillinger Escape Plan no matter how many time I listen.

I've also just realised one fairly MASSIVE influence that I've missed out, so I'll adjust my list. Faith No More. A fecking huge fan in fact. Also a fairly big fan of RHCP's from One Hot Minute backwards right to their very early stuff.

Edited by Swervin_Mervin on Friday 17th May 12:44

yeah i get that.... OG by ice t was a big part of my youth as was straight outa compton.....i got into more hip hop later with wu tang myself and loved the darker side of rap with guys like capone & noreaga.... but none of it shaped me massively in a musical sense as it wasn't massively applicable with me being a guitarist...still loved a lot of it though and the rap/rock mash ups really got me when done properly.....anthrax/public enemy pretty much the first collab that set a fire under me......by the time guys like nas were doing tracks with korn i lost my st......

so, i suppose in that respect hip hop had a big influence on my style in that the bouncier/crunchier stuff like downset and biohazard, along with helmet , made me play a certain way.....


the whole grunge thing left me completely cold ( with the exception of soundgarden which always felt deeper).... which is ironic as you can pretty much site the entire cause of grunge being when black flag came to seattle in '83 on the my war tour....pretty much every major figure that would emerge in grunge was at that show....my war was my second favourite black flag album after damaged frightened me to death when i was 13

I was never big into Grunge either tbh - I like the odd track from Pixies, Soundgarden and Pearl Jam but by and large it passed me by. I think Nirvana specifically just unlocked something in my head. Rarely listened to them much at the time, or since, but it's odd that I think it took something like them to open a door to another world if you like.

Rock/rap mashups were a staple of that era weren't they? Judgement Night! I guess my tastes became somewhat driven by being a hobbyist bassist (never played in a band or had any inclination to) - instrument drives the musical taste, and vice-versa. It's why I loved so much early RHCPs, FNM, Pantera, and of course the loons that are Primus.

[Swervin_Mervin]

JaymzDead said:

Nice slight thread diversion, mine would be:

Metallica - ...And Justice For All
Slayer - South of Heaven
Deep Purple - Made In Japan
Neurosis - Through Silver In Blood
Corrosion of Conformity - Deliverance
Turmoil - The Process Of...
Acid Bath - When the Kite String Pops
Down - Nola
Sick of it All - Just Look Around
Obituary - Cause of Death
Crowbar - Odd Fellows Rest
Ministry - Psalm 69
Emperor - Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk
Queen - Greatest Hits Vol 1 (a slight cop out listing a greatest hits but I remember listening to this at several relatives houses and it having a massive affect on me)
The Prodigy - Music for a Jilted Generation
Wu Tang Clan - Enter the 36 Chambers
Megadeth - Rust In Peace
Sepultura - Chaos AD
Morbid Angel - Altars of Madness
Tool - Aenima

I could probably go on and like tuscaneer, my list would probably vary slightly dependent on what mood you catch me in!!

Ah, Sepultura. Was never a big fan at the time of the fast and heavy thrash, same with Slayer. But later got hooked with Arise - probably my favourite of theirs. Oh and great call with CoC's Deliverance! What an album.

[tuscaneer]

Swervin_Mervin said:

tuscaneer said:

Swervin_Mervin said:

You can see my early familial influences - that list is pretty well in time order.

I was pretty much only into breakbeat and early techno up to about the age of 16 though. I can't remember what first switched me back to rock and then metal - it was either Nirvana (despite having memories of really disliking them when they first became widely known) or Metallica.

Metallica was Ride the Lightning for me closely followed by MoP, but it was really only when Machine Head released Davidian that I was hooked on metal. I was pretty split in terms of metal tastes - loved Pantera and that heavier dirty side, but my dance influences also had me into bands like Pitchshifter which got me on to Fear Factory's Remanufacture, and then became a big fan of all their work. My dirty rock tastes had me into Monster Magnet, whilst my Cure thing had me get more into Deftones and Tool. Then I hit on Karnivool and a bunch of Aussie bands, Dead Letter Circus, Cog, Floating Me (awesome single album). Let's not also forget the lies of Beastie Boys, Wu-Tang Clan. In reality my list of influences would be utterly massive!

Gradually over time my tastes have not only broadened, but also in each genre become fairly focussed. An example of that would be prog metal. Love Sikth and PTH, can't get into Opeth or Dillinger Escape Plan no matter how many time I listen.

I've also just realised one fairly MASSIVE influence that I've missed out, so I'll adjust my list. Faith No More. A fecking huge fan in fact. Also a fairly big fan of RHCP's from One Hot Minute backwards right to their very early stuff.

Edited by Swervin_Mervin on Friday 17th May 12:44

yeah i get that.... OG by ice t was a big part of my youth as was straight outa compton.....i got into more hip hop later with wu tang myself and loved the darker side of rap with guys like capone & noreaga.... but none of it shaped me massively in a musical sense as it wasn't massively applicable with me being a guitarist...still loved a lot of it though and the rap/rock mash ups really got me when done properly.....anthrax/public enemy pretty much the first collab that set a fire under me......by the time guys like nas were doing tracks with korn i lost my st......

so, i suppose in that respect hip hop had a big influence on my style in that the bouncier/crunchier stuff like downset and biohazard, along with helmet , made me play a certain way.....


the whole grunge thing left me completely cold ( with the exception of soundgarden which always felt deeper).... which is ironic as you can pretty much site the entire cause of grunge being when black flag came to seattle in '83 on the my war tour....pretty much every major figure that would emerge in grunge was at that show....my war was my second favourite black flag album after damaged frightened me to death when i was 13

I was never big into Grunge either tbh - I like the odd track from Pixies, Soundgarden and Pearl Jam but by and large it passed me by. I think Nirvana specifically just unlocked something in my head. Rarely listened to them much at the time, or since, but it's odd that I think it took something like them to open a door to another world if you like.

Rock/rap mashups were a staple of that era weren't they? Judgement Night! I guess my tastes became somewhat driven by being a hobbyist bassist (never played in a band or had any inclination to) - instrument drives the musical taste, and vice-versa. It's why I loved so much early RHCPs, FNM, Pantera, and of course the loons that are Primus.

pixies i loved actually...just the guitars were so thin i never really took much from them...nearly got crushed to death when i saw them at manchester g mex on the doolitle tour...

i was over rhcp as early as blood,sugar..... saw them live at manchester apollo on the mothers milk tour...they were fking great.... but that manic side to them was fading fast by the time under the bridge and all that started.. i left them there...

judgement night was incredible... fnm/boo ya tribe was off the scale...helmet/house of pain great too....

les claypool needs sectioning

[anonymous-user]

A few of the influential albums in my "heavy history":-

Formative years:-

Iron Maiden - Somewhere in Time (started it all for me)
Anthrax - among the Living
Forbidden - Forbidden Evil
Metallica - Master of Puppets
Nuclear Assault - Handle With Care

Development:-

Entombed - Clandestine
Carcass - Symphonies of Sickness
Macabre - Gloom
Napalm Death - Peel Sessions (86/7)
Morbid Angel - Altars of Madness
Nocturnus - The Key
Poison Idea - Feel the Darkness / Blank, Blackout, Vacant
Fudge Tunnel - Hate Songs in E Minor
RxDxP - Brasil / Anarchophobia

Rabbit hole:-

Winter - Into Darkness
dISEMBOWELMENT - Transcendence into the Peripheral
Darkthrone - Blaze in the Northern Sky (that changed everything for me)
Electric Wizard - Come my Fanatics

Honourable mentions to the following compilations, which helped expand horizons:-

Speed Kills series
Grindcrusher
Vile Vibes
Hardcore Holocaust I & II
Death is Just the Beginning
Touch of Death
The Pleasures in Life

Sure there's loads more, but those are the ones that spring immediately to mind. Interesting lack of later 90s/00s Death Metal, and complete lack of metalcore, which passed me by entirely (although oddly enjoy it more these days).

[Swervin_Mervin]

Just had a total flashback whilst listening to CoC's Deliverance...

Green Jelly - Cereal Killer Soundtrack. Flight of the Skajaquada in particular.

I never realised Danny Carey drummed for them in those early days! In fact, I never realised the numerous Tool connections!

[Digga]

Motorhead - Ace of Spades (bought when I was 11), bit of a gap after that, and then...
Iron Maiden - Live After Death
Metallica - Master of Puppets
Suicidal Tendencies - Join The Army
Anthrax - Spreading the Disease
Megadeath - Peace Sells
Slayer - Reign In Blood

The Slayer album South of Heaven was superb and I have very clear memories of first listening to it, over and over, and over again on my Walkman, during a two week family holiday in the USA. I was 16 at the time, so that was the last time I went away with them, but being in the USA and listening to that, at the same time as G N R's Sweet Child was breaking on MTV (but I was not really too interested in that) had a real impact. Then I saw them live a few months later...

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Lentilist said:

I second the Napalm Death comment. Remains one of the finest pieces of extreme music ever recorded, and still sounds utterly ferocious all these years later. There's heavier and faster stuff now, but none of it has that same loose and human feel as those Peel Sessions. Seems to permanently teeter on the brink of spinning out of control, yet manages to just about keep it together.

Oh, and yes, still listen to Intense Degree now and again, mostly "War in my Head". Underrated stuff.

I love you.

[tuscaneer]

May God forgive me for the following omissions from my list...
If I may be permitted gentlemen, I would like to stretch my list to 23 as I can't bump anyone at this juncture....


Testament.....the new order
Nuclear assault....survive
Shelter....mantra

I cant remember the year but I heard testament, annihilator and nuclear assault all on the same episode of headbangers ball... fell in love with all 3 but testament stole my heart....
They really belonged in the big 4.. should have been the big 5 really....oooollhhhh....among the living by anthrax...that's 24.....

Mantra by shelter was a sick album back in the early 90s...krishna core.... the first and best!!..

[Boney2728]

Just been flicking through the thread and some great albums mentioned on here.

For myself, there was one track that got me into Rock/Metal etc and that was Rock Bottom from the mighty U.F.O. The guitaring from Michael Schenker still makes my hairs stand on end when I listen to it. Overall though I like anything from The Who right through to the Grind stuff from Napalm Death etc. I do have a massive sweet spot for Voivod & ZZ Top though.

Over the years I have worn out or seem to have a few vinyls including:

Live after Death - Iron Maiden
Blood, Fire, Death - Bathory
Ride the Lightning - Metallica
Symphonies of Sickness - Carcass
Killing Technology - Voivod
In Rock - Deep Purple
Fugazi - Marillion
Tres Hombres - ZZ Top

It was also good to see that first Forbidden album mentioned too. Blew me away when I first heard it and they were as good live as on record..

Have fun guys.

[MonkeyBusiness]

Cold Sweat -Thin Lizzy....(preferably a live version)
Is there a more powerful metal song than this that you could slip into a quiet party?