Pics of your offroaders...

Pics of your offroaders...

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TheLordJohn

5,746 posts

147 months

Sunday 17th July 2016
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KevinCamaroSS said:
Lord John, that looks really good, is it unmodified?
Hi mate.

Thanks very much smile
Yep, pretty much completely standard.
To be perfectly honest, I haven't seen it yet!
I am home in August but my Dad has had a good poke around it (tapping hammer to the chassis) and confirmed it's as good as the seller claimed.
Unfortunately a diesel, but I don't mind old, proper diesels, as it's the original N/A diesel in it.








I much prefer the pre-1969 headlight set up, but the Series 1's, 2's and 2A's are, projects aside, completely out of my price range and will continue to be so.

Thanks, Stuart.

Rickyy

6,618 posts

220 months

Sunday 17th July 2016
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Only picture I have of mine. Bullbar and sidesteps came with it and have since been removed.

It's our family car, so can't risk breaking it. But I'd love to do some light off roading in it. Is there anywhere in South Wales that is legal and not too extreme to go?

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Monday 18th July 2016
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Rickyy said:


Only picture I have of mine. Bullbar and sidesteps came with it and have since been removed.

It's our family car, so can't risk breaking it. But I'd love to do some light off roading in it. Is there anywhere in South Wales that is legal and not too extreme to go?
There are loads of places in South/Mid Wales. Green lanes, although technically they are on road, not off road. If you want to 'off road' you will need to be on private property at something like a Pay & Play site or on private land you have access too.

That said, and I mean no offence. But your vehicle isn't really ideal for green laning or off roading. Tires are too low a profile, limited ground clearance, large overhangs. And lots of plastic and paint to damage.

Some mild lanes in the dry you might be ok on, although if the ruts are deeper, then you run real risk of becoming grounded or causing damage underneath.

I'm not saying vehicles like yours can't be made to go off road. But if it takes your fancy, you'd be better off with something more rugged.

Rickyy

6,618 posts

220 months

Monday 18th July 2016
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300bhp/ton said:
There are loads of places in South/Mid Wales. Green lanes, although technically they are on road, not off road. If you want to 'off road' you will need to be on private property at something like a Pay & Play site or on private land you have access too.

That said, and I mean no offence. But your vehicle isn't really ideal for green laning or off roading. Tires are too low a profile, limited ground clearance, large overhangs. And lots of plastic and paint to damage.

Some mild lanes in the dry you might be ok on, although if the ruts are deeper, then you run real risk of becoming grounded or causing damage underneath.

I'm not saying vehicles like yours can't be made to go off road. But if it takes your fancy, you'd be better off with something more rugged.
I thought as much! Ground clearance is a little better now the side steps are gone, but I agree, it's not suitable for anything serious.

Currently putting funds aside for something more suitable.

Are the previous gen Grand Vitaras any good in SWB form? They seem a little cheaper than Jimnys.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Monday 18th July 2016
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Rickyy said:
I thought as much! Ground clearance is a little better now the side steps are gone, but I agree, it's not suitable for anything serious.

Currently putting funds aside for something more suitable.

Are the previous gen Grand Vitaras any good in SWB form? They seem a little cheaper than Jimnys.
I was laning in Wales two weekends back. A friends Land Rover 80" got stopped a few times due to ground clearance, despite running 7.50 tyres.


Older Vitara's are fine. But really depends what your bigger plans are with the vehicle. And how much money you'd maybe like to invest and return, should you sell it on.

Vitara's are compact 4x4's, this is good for many things. But has it's downsides if you want to carry people, haul or tow anything. And when out laning, you can spend many hours behind the wheel and with lengthy road sections. As long as you'll be comfy enough and accept that it is what it is, then that'll be fine. But well worth thinking about.

Vitara's are also IFS. This means for some types of off roading they simply won't perform as well as live axle vehicles (like the Jimny, most Land Rover's, most Jeep's).

People do extensively mod Vitara's and they can perform brilliantly. But an understanding of how suspension works off road will help loads in assessing a vehicles potential.

Being small, Vitara's also tend to have small wheels and small engines. This means limited low end grunt and still limited ground clearance. You can upsize the tyres, but only so much. And once you do, you'll find the engine may struggle on and off road and the gearing will be too tall. So more money needed to solve these issues.


Other things you might want to consider.

What and where will you use it? And your intended uses.


As I said earlier, towing, hauling or carrying people is not a small 4x4's forte. But also think what else you might want to do. If Pay & Play sites appeal, or more extreme off roading. Or even off road competitions. RTV (Road Taxed Vehicle) trials are very popular.

All competitions have regulations however, and some vehicles are simply more suited for it.


Vehicles I'd consider:

-Land Rover's. If you live in the UK you'd be completely crazy to not have them on the list. Disco 1/2, p38a or Series can all be had at sensible money.

-Jeeps. A bit like Land Rover's really. A bit rarer in the UK and less of a UK aftermarket. But world wide a much larger aftermarket than any other 4x4 make. XJ Cherokee's and ZJ/WJ Grand Cherokee's are complete bargains and really only need a lift kit to match anything Defender for most off roading needs.

-Jimny's, because they are like a modern Series 1 Land Rover with Defender suspension.

-Vitara, as mentioned above.

-Lada Niva. Similar to a Vitara, but arguably a bit more rugged.

-Maybe a Shogun or similar.

-Some other Jap trucks.


If you go too left field, there will be no after market however. Which means getting off road bits will be impossible or down to you to R&D and build yourself.

Max5476

985 posts

115 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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busta said:
I need a trailer like that for tip runs. Im guessing its hand made?

Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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Yes details on trailer please. Looks like a builders bag just hung from a frame. I'm filling the crv with wood, that would be perfect

Hainey

4,381 posts

201 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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My old bucket on the right, mates on the left.



And with the winch on it



It's a rescued from the dead heap of nails that's been brought back to life after standing in the rain with a blown and cracked head for 10 years. So, it looks like nails but the mechanics and welding are getting to top notch status after a huge amount of graft going into it. Hence it looks rubbish but it certainly isn't underneath.

It's taken me everywhere I've asked it, through knee deep mud, up hillsides covered in slippy Heather and through and over harsh slate quarries and never failed me yet.

A coat of nato olive green in its future I think.

I'm happy smile

Avagoodweegend

39 posts

171 months

Saturday 3rd September 2016
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Here's my Landies in something like ownership order

my first Series 3





my second Series 3





my 90





my 101 "Big Banana Barny"







my 110 "Bluey"









my Discovery "Shuffles"






Steve_F

860 posts

195 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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Avagoodweegend said:
Here's my Landies in something like ownership order

my 90

That looks incredibly like my road to work, not central Scotland near Whitburn is it?

Avagoodweegend

39 posts

171 months

Friday 9th September 2016
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Steve_F said:
Avagoodweegend said:
Here's my Landies in something like ownership order

my 90

That looks incredibly like my road to work, not central Scotland near Whitburn is it?
'fraid not! its the road from Sunniside to Willington in Co. Durham. I was trying to get to Sunniside but the drifts across the road kept on lifting the front end up and I'd lose traction. After nearly getting stuck a couple of times and realising that I was totally on my own with no one to help if I got stuck I decided discretion was the better part of valour so I turned round and took some photos.

scrwright

2,627 posts

191 months

Monday 12th September 2016
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Finally got the silver machine dirty & offroaded it smile
Varilock axles are amazing, happily followed much modded Wranglers without issues



had one worrying moment when I thought I had bust a CV which turned out to be a coke can wedged in the front brake caliper

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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Not mine... but maybe one day biggrin


aardvark64

95 posts

187 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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Here's one of mine with its winter coat on:



/Colin

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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KMT

70 posts

183 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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andysgriff

913 posts

261 months

Sunday 4th December 2016
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Konan

1,842 posts

147 months

Sunday 4th December 2016
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andysgriff said:
That'd do me smile

BigJL

563 posts

202 months

Tuesday 20th December 2016
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My L200 - custom winch bumper, Winchmax synthetic rope winch, rear recovery bumper, 2" suspension lift, custom full underbody protection and rock sliders, snorkel, raised breathers, 31" Grabbers and CB Radio!

smile

Mammasaid

3,864 posts

98 months

Tuesday 20th December 2016
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BigJL said:

My L200 - custom winch bumper, Winchmax synthetic rope winch, rear recovery bumper, 2" suspension lift, custom full underbody protection and rock sliders, snorkel, raised breathers, 31" Grabbers and CB Radio!

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Nice, enjoyed my 2004 Crew-cab L200, but have moved up to something a bit newer. You might be interested in Tom 'Wookie' Ford's new Project Swarm, https://twitter.com/tomwookieford/status/809140290...