Which Modern 4x4's come with Difflocks?

Which Modern 4x4's come with Difflocks?

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normalbloke

7,463 posts

220 months

Monday 25th May 2009
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mgrays said:
laser_jock99 said:
300bhp/ton said:
Axle diff locks are very useful, but often aren’t needed. Can cause more trouble than they are worth when used, often break things and only have real benefits on certain types of terrain.
Difflocks (by bitter experince) need to be used with care and only applied in the right situation. Also, especially on older LR vehicles, it's all too easy to snap a halfshaft if you're a bit to 'enthusiastic' with the throttle!
Yup ... if LR were "designed" they would have mechanics with diffs that worked and lasted but instead some of the UK thinks the diff locks are hardcore dangereous stuff ... (runs and hides now..) Meantime LR had soft suspension travel which does compensate sometimes instead if you can life with it on the road. Real 4x4's come with lockers front and back from factory whistle

So .. does the Unimog have the treads on back to front at the back.. to get you back out again.. or is it full steam ahead and go for broke with threads the right way? Diffs are the reserves.. get you going again when backing out or to get you the last few feet if it is attainable/up hill.
You'd only ever swap treads on the front end to run them"backwards" to decrease tyre wear when running on tarmac.It's got plenty of traction forwards or backwards, and never bother messing around with tyre directions.If it looks suspect, difflocks are engaged before entering it.If it "feels" like it isn't going to make it,I just back out.Reverse is on a separate lever,and you can reverse whatever gear you are in(all 16 of 'em) which makes reverse progress less traumatic.

mgrays

189 posts

191 months

Tuesday 26th May 2009
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normalbloke said:
You'd only ever swap treads on the front end to run them"backwards" to decrease tyre wear when running on tarmac.It's got plenty of traction forwards or backwards, and never bother messing around with tyre directions.If it looks suspect, difflocks are engaged before entering it.If it "feels" like it isn't going to make it,I just back out.Reverse is on a separate lever,and you can reverse whatever gear you are in(all 16 of 'em) which makes reverse progress less traumatic.
So your missing super crawl then ;-) and reverse is locked out on upper 4 of the 6 speed I seem to remember so 20 forward 8 backwards on a fully spec'ed 406/U800. We used to run the back tread backwards.. and only snap in the last notch as you hit the worst bit as it is nice to have steering without so much chewing. Guess independant locks have their advantages but real tyres with travel/flex make it work.

normalbloke

7,463 posts

220 months

Tuesday 26th May 2009
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mgrays said:
normalbloke said:
You'd only ever swap treads on the front end to run them"backwards" to decrease tyre wear when running on tarmac.It's got plenty of traction forwards or backwards, and never bother messing around with tyre directions.If it looks suspect, difflocks are engaged before entering it.If it "feels" like it isn't going to make it,I just back out.Reverse is on a separate lever,and you can reverse whatever gear you are in(all 16 of 'em) which makes reverse progress less traumatic.
So your missing super crawl then ;-) and reverse is locked out on upper 4 of the 6 speed I seem to remember so 20 forward 8 backwards on a fully spec'ed 406/U800. We used to run the back tread backwards.. and only snap in the last notch as you hit the worst bit as it is nice to have steering without so much chewing. Guess independant locks have their advantages but real tyres with travel/flex make it work.
No,I think you're thinking of the older boxes.I have an SBU(U1000@130bhp).The boxes are just in blocks of 8.I have road gears and working gears,so 16 all in.All of which are reversible.The lowest 8(which I do not have) are not designed for offroad or increasing torque, they are purely for matching travel speed to the implement speed ie for a trencher.I rarely ever go into the lowest 8.If i put it into 1st,hand throttle on the redline,I could go and have a brew and it will only have travelled 20ft.I believe the lowest crawler will travel 80 metres per hour.
I did think of splitting my locker circuit when I first got it after reading a lot of forum warrior comments in the US etc,but so far it hasn't been an issue enough to make me do it.

Edited by normalbloke on Tuesday 26th May 14:42