Budget Helmet

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PhillipM

6,520 posts

189 months

Sunday 6th February 2022
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+1 on let us know how the Koden is, I found a nice lid the other day but 600 quid plus the same for HANS is a bit outta budget atm biggrin

stevieturbo

17,263 posts

247 months

Monday 7th February 2022
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shirt said:
I’d say decent aero is more important than all out weight for a single seater lid.
When your neck is carrying the weight of the helmet and you're maybe pulling high g's etc. Weight very much matters

It's not about just the weight of the overall vehicle, it's how it affects the driver.

shirt

22,570 posts

201 months

Monday 7th February 2022
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Agreed but a helmet weighing a few hundred grams extra with decent aero will perform better than a lighter one without. Arai have built their motorbike reputation on this.

Fishy Dave

1,026 posts

245 months

Thursday 10th February 2022
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A vote for Hedtec here. Myself and my two work colleagues all have Hedtec, in different models, all are wearing well, mine in particular gets a lot of use. The V2 I had ten years back had issues with the visor coating and interior material pulling out after 18 months, I was offered a 10% discount on a new one as parts (visor) were no longer available. I bought a Hedtec and will do so again when it expires next year.

k20ris

256 posts

149 months

Thursday 10th February 2022
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Fishy Dave said:
A vote for Hedtec here. Myself and my two work colleagues all have Hedtec, in different models, all are wearing well, mine in particular gets a lot of use. The V2 I had ten years back had issues with the visor coating and interior material pulling out after 18 months, I was offered a 10% discount on a new one as parts (visor) were no longer available. I bought a Hedtec and will do so again when it expires next year.
+2 for Hedtec, have the GEM with FHR posts. Fits my head really well and materials feel good VFM.


Willhire89

1,328 posts

205 months

Saturday 12th February 2022
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Just purchased the HedTec + Stand21 FHR package - looks good/feels fine

Anyone know the current cost of the scrut sticker you get when they see it first time or does that not happen now?

Dan BSCS

1,175 posts

236 months

Saturday 12th February 2022
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I believe it’s £2.50 per sticker currently.

Edited by Dan BSCS on Saturday 12th February 14:25

Dan BSCS

1,175 posts

236 months

Saturday 12th February 2022
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And you will need two. One for your helmet and one for your FHR.

carl_w

9,181 posts

258 months

Saturday 12th February 2022
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Dan BSCS said:
And you will need two. One for your helmet and one for your FHR.
Although in the big scheme of motorsport expenses, it's hardly a deal breaker

Dan BSCS

1,175 posts

236 months

Saturday 12th February 2022
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carl_w said:
Although in the big scheme of motorsport expenses, it's hardly a deal breaker
Absolutely, but worth knowing so you don’t head up to the scrutineering bay with £2.50 in your pocket only to find out you need a fiver. biggrin

PhillipM

6,520 posts

189 months

Monday 14th February 2022
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My Koden arrived, quality looks decent, few small divots and the odd mark from them polishing in the epoxy but they're tiny and only because I'm looking for them, relatively light, about 300g lighter than my previous headtec, but nothing like you get from a top end carbon that would be that again.

Comfort wise it's okay, pinches a bit around the forehead for me, but in terms of comfort, it's easily 2-3x better than my old Headtec, no exaggeration - I hated that helmet after a while, I would never buy another - but I would still say compared to some Stilo's I tried on at Motodrive - if I had £700 I'd buy the Stilo, no question, the Koden doesn't come close to it for comfort and especially not for sound deadening with those internal earcups the Stilo's have.

At half the price though, it's not bad, quality looks fine, decent looking lid, fit is spot on for the sizes.





Edited by PhillipM on Monday 14th February 17:43

carl_w

9,181 posts

258 months

Monday 14th February 2022
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Dan BSCS said:
Absolutely, but worth knowing so you don’t head up to the scrutineering bay with £2.50 in your pocket only to find out you need a fiver. biggrin
I'm surprised the scrutes don't have a SumUp machine or equivalent. I'm thinking of getting one for our car club.

OP: the Koden looks great

stevieturbo

17,263 posts

247 months

Monday 14th February 2022
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Likewise mine arrived today. Mine is the open face, looks a little more plain that the above helmet.

Annoying to see the "made in China" box...but I guess that's just the way things are. The carry bag was also inside out.

Helmet feels heavy enough though, but I guess that is expected from a budget helmet. But quality looks ok, would have preferred not to have the carbon seam line right down the middle of the lid...but it's still well finished.
It also fits quite well, feels comfy enough.

As I'm using it in car, I removed the little ear cups, I have no need for noise reduction.

All in all seems pretty good, and a lot comfier than my previous helmet. Oddly, for a helmet I'd been enquiring with Koden for a few years about, to the same response of it not being available yet....date of manufacture is Sept 2020.

PhillipM

6,520 posts

189 months

Monday 14th February 2022
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Weird, mine was only made about 6 months ago.

carl_w

9,181 posts

258 months

Monday 14th February 2022
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stevieturbo said:
As I'm using it in car, I removed the little ear cups, I have no need for noise reduction.
I did that and now when I put my glasses on the arms catch on the back of the holes where they were. I assume they were for rally intercom gear?


PhillipM

6,520 posts

189 months

Monday 14th February 2022
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The full face one doesn't have those at all.
Just weighed it, 1570g for those wondering.

stevieturbo

17,263 posts

247 months

Tuesday 15th February 2022
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carl_w said:
I did that and now when I put my glasses on the arms catch on the back of the holes where they were. I assume they were for rally intercom gear?
That was an annoyance with my last helmet, although I think partly as it was a tighter...bad fit. Haven't tried putting sunglasses on with this one yet.

Last one was ok if I put the helmet on with the glasses already on though, just difficult to get them on right if the helmet was on first.

Will give mine a weigh tomorrow, it should be lighter than the full face.

But yes, the gaps would be for intercom stuff. Certainly in a very loud car....such things are pretty essential. A friends car has the trans etc solid mounted and straight cut gears and transfer gears, and the noise in the car is utterly horrendous. Some sort of ear protection/intercom is essential.

I like mine a bit more civilised !

PhillipM

6,520 posts

189 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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I mean the noise in the buggy is horrendous but I just swear louder.

bqf

2,226 posts

171 months

Friday 18th February 2022
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My Simpson Devil Ray carbon is out of date this year....got a great deal at Autosport 5 years ago, sadly not to be this year!

They're about £730 now! Liking the look of the Koden tbh

claryclan

35 posts

184 months

Friday 18th February 2022
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[quote=stevieturbo].

The carry bag was also inside out.

That''s right - seams of the carry bag on the outside so as to not rub against and scratch the helmet.