RE: ultimapaul's Ultima GTR

RE: ultimapaul's Ultima GTR

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Thom

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2,745 posts

274 months

Monday 27th May 2002
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How dificult/easy was it to build?
Was it "plug and play" or did it require specific mechanical skills?

Absolutely superb car, can't wait to see one in the flesh

ultimapaul

3,937 posts

265 months

Tuesday 28th May 2002
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Thom - The build up to rolling chassis stage was fine. I must confess though, I got the factory to fit the body at a very reasonable cost!!!
Because it is such an important part of the finished car I wanted it to look just right and the week it was with them meant the car took a hugh leap forward towards being finished.
The rest though is all my own work, I did the engine myself too. Being 'old' technology it was not a difficult job, nerve racking being my first engine build, but not hard!
Due to the quality of all the components and the fact that except for the gearbox & engine there were no donor parts did help. Everything else including uprights, steering rack and even the seats are bespoke items helped it all fit together really well.

ultimapaul

3,937 posts

265 months

Tuesday 28th May 2002
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Oh, forgot to mention ..... these threads are normally posted in the 'Readers Cars' section near the top of the page.

Bye Bye

PetrolTed

34,429 posts

304 months

Tuesday 28th May 2002
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Oh, forgot to mention ..... these threads are normally posted in the 'Readers Cars' section near the top of the page.


It depends on the marque (it's automatic). Ultima into the Ultima section, Ferrari into the Ferrari section etc. Marques without their own forum end up in the 'readers' cars' bit.

ultimapaul

3,937 posts

265 months

Tuesday 28th May 2002
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OOOOOPS

Thom

Original Poster:

2,745 posts

274 months

Tuesday 28th May 2002
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Thanks for the details Paul, I hope it's not too scary to drive...err, to "pilot"

Don

28,377 posts

285 months

Tuesday 28th May 2002
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Paul. Are you up for the Vernham Dean run on 29th June. It would be cool to have your exceptional beast along. Also: I have permission to do a photo op outside my offices (Old country house now Business Park on the outskirts of B'stoke) and it would be a hoot to include your GTR.

Saw you + beast at the Basingstoke Festival of Transport: you were a bit pre-occupied so I didn't re-introduce myself. Nice photo in the Gazette, mind...!

ultimapaul

3,937 posts

265 months

Wednesday 29th May 2002
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Thom - What you might describe as eerrrr ..... interesting!!!!

ultimapaul

3,937 posts

265 months

Wednesday 29th May 2002
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Don - I think I can make it to the Vernham Dean run ... I've just had a look at the postings for it, sounds like fun!
As for the photo thingy .... Sounds good too!
You should have wandered over at the B/Stoke transport fair & said hi

I have seen the pic in the local rag !!! I didn't mind the car being photo'd, but why do they insist in the cheeseee pose for the owner

ultimapaul

3,937 posts

265 months

Tuesday 4th June 2002
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It would not be my first choice as an every day car, if your doing any kind of commute .... A little too focused for me. It is nice to drag it out the garage at weekends and just enjoy it.

Plus points

performance
road presence
handling
braking
sence of occasion every time it's driven
stunning looks

Down side

MPG (8-14)
ease of access
luggage
low ride height
attention
cabin temp in traffic

Still, if the Discovery & Golf were to break down I could learn to live with it

Roadrunner

2,690 posts

268 months

Tuesday 4th June 2002
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I always seem to go off on a tangent on other threads.

How loud is it inside generally? I'm guessing you only take it out for sunday blasts so it does'nt matter. Do many owners use them reguarly?

Roadrunner

2,690 posts

268 months

Tuesday 4th June 2002
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I managed to post before I saw your post - oops. Out of sync. It seems a lot of tiv drivers do the same - sunday use only. I'd have a lot of trouble leaving that in the garage. Mind you the petrol price is a wake up call! That's what seems good about those xtr things.

ultimapaul

3,937 posts

265 months

Tuesday 4th June 2002
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Don't get me wrong, with the engine out back it is suprisingly refined (as this type of car goes) on a longish trip. The ride is quite complient too, you tend to hear rather than feel the bumps. Wind & tyre noise are the biggest contributer to cabin noise when cruising. Unless of course you use the loud pedal, then nothing else matters.

Roadrunner

2,690 posts

268 months

Tuesday 4th June 2002
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A lot of car stereo specialists stock various sound deadening materials. They usually have a sticky side so would stop various panels resonating. Is the chevy a usual choice of lump here. Seems a little odd in the uk due to lack of parts etc. A Rover V8 must be a much more common choice. Has anyone put in anything crazy like a brabus / birds lump?

ultimapaul

3,937 posts

265 months

Tuesday 4th June 2002
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Sound deadening is the route to take if your after desired effect. Because I only use mine for fun use it doesn't bother me. Weight would also be a consideration. At only 1000KGs, to add a further 50kgs with carpets etc would go a little against the grain!

ultimapaul

3,937 posts

265 months

Tuesday 4th June 2002
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As for engines, the factory now guide owners towards the Chevvy Small Block. It gives relitavely cheap power and millions have been built so through US & UK specialists such as Real Steel spares are readily available. The chassis is designed with the Chevvy in mind too. Some owners have taken alternative routes. One I know of went for the Ford V8 option, another has gone Rover V8 and I believe someone has gone Jag V8. With a stock Chevvy 350HO available for about 4-5k it really makes sense to take that route. Their very tunable too.

Roadrunner

2,690 posts

268 months

Tuesday 4th June 2002
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True! You don't want it getting too lardy. I'm going to have a big effort to try and get my next car down to 1200kg. A lot of gizmo's will go but I'll draw the line at sound insulation, comfy carpet, a/c and heater! All else is expendable really. I'm suprised the GTR only weighs 1000kg. That v8 and gearbox must weigh a ton.

ultimapaul

3,937 posts

265 months

Tuesday 4th June 2002
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I was a little sceptical at the factory claim of 990kgs in the brouchure. I was very pleased when mine come in at spot on 1000gks at the SVA test with three quarter tanks! The engine & box do weigh a lot, but the engine is well forward in the chassis it does not appear to have tooo much effect on the balance. ie. early 911, which I know was rear engined. I supose the lack of overal weight is helped with such things as Polycarbonate side windows, Alloy uprights, alloy steering rack and even factory designed seats.

ultimajohn

87 posts

265 months

Thursday 6th June 2002
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Mine was 970kg with full tanks on the Silverstone weighbridge. (Sport - bodywork probably lighter)
Oh yes and the split was 39% front 61% rear.

Oh and I should add: I love it to bits, its wonderful!


>> Edited by ultimajohn on Thursday 6th June 21:19

>> Edited by ultimajohn on Thursday 6th June 21:20

>> Edited by ultimajohn on Thursday 6th June 21:22

ultiman

352 posts

263 months

Friday 21st June 2002
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Ultimajohn, l have a late Sport but l have yet to weigh it properly. The SVA weight was 1350kg but l seriously doubt it. l believe the panels on the Sport are slightly thicker but not 350kgs thicker.

Appropo Ultimapauls comments, l use mine regularly and racked up 10,000 miles last year, touring Europe and trolling round the M25.

>> Edited by ultiman on Friday 21st June 13:07