ultima power steering again

[hedgefinder]

I have had a quick look regarding powersteering and have noticed the corsa column being mentioned.
What is the difference between corsa b and corsa c columns?
Which parts are needed to do the conversion column,motor,ecu or more ? does the column need to be chopped?
just curious at this stage.

[MarkWebb]

Don't know much but was told retrofit was difficult. What about the SS mods which apparently improve grip and lighten steering considerably?

[Storer]

MarkWebb said:

What about the SS mods which apparently improve grip and lighten steering considerably?

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Paul

[hedgefinder]

MarkWebb said:

Don't know much but was told retrofit was difficult. What about the SS mods which apparently improve grip and lighten steering considerably?

not exactly fo the purpose I am considering, will be discussing it with Steve again later this summer next time i am in the area though,
thanks.

[F.C.]

Storer said:

MarkWebb said:

What about the SS mods which apparently improve grip and lighten steering considerably?

??????????????????????


Paul

Yes. Do tell more, would like to lighten my steering up a bit!

[alfasteve]

This is what I am using it is used in the modern dea LMP race cars you see at Lemans
is a bit expensive but tunable in many settings

[khm]

fitted it to my car after the first track day, corsa b is much shorter than the c, so thats what i used, plug straight into the e bay controler that you can get works spot on, fully adjustable, even fitted a switch to turn it off if you want. not sure about fitting to an ulitma, but if you can i highly recommend it, if only for shunting about, fit it before you fit the screen !! you won't regret it

[Storer]

alfasteve said:

This is what I am using it is used in the modern dea LMP race cars you see at Lemans
is a bit expensive but tunable in many settings

How will that fit in an Ultima???

khm said:

fitted it to my car after the first track day, corsa b is much shorter than the c, so thats what i used, plug straight into the e bay controler that you can get works spot on, fully adjustable, even fitted a switch to turn it off if you want. not sure about fitting to an ulitma, but if you can i highly recommend it, if only for shunting about, fit it before you fit the screen !! you won't regret it

But can it be retro fitted to a complete car???

Titan Racing build the Ultima rack (or did) and they make an electric one for racing. Don't know how much it would cost though!


Paul

[BogBeast]

Storer said:

But can it be retro fitted to a complete car???

Titan Racing build the Ultima rack (or did) and they make an electric one for racing. Don't know how much it would cost though!


Paul

http://www.titanraceproducts.com/compactepas.asp

I could be wrong but it *looks* like a fairly straight forward in-line fit...

[Storer]

That's the US Titan Racing Co.

This is the UK one http://www.titan.uk.net/steering.php



Paul

[alfasteve]

Storer said:

But can it be retro fitted to a complete car???

Titan Racing build the Ultima rack (or did) and they make an electric one for racing. Don't know how much it would cost though!


Paul

The heigth from the rack to the steering colum is about 7 inch, and yeagh it is several times the price of the ultima steering unit this is about 5000 GBP

[BogBeast]

Storer said:

That's the US Titan Racing Co.

This is the UK one http://www.titan.uk.net/steering.php

Paul

They still list the St Neots address on the .com website??

Same company by the look of it - can't find the EPAS power steering on the titan.uk.net site which is odd.

Do like the look of their Roller Barrels though...

[02PRUV]

alfasteve said:

This is what I am using it is used in the modern dea LMP race cars you see at Lemans
is a bit expensive but tunable in many settings

Got some pics of it fitted? And where does it come from?

[alfasteve]

I am not at home yet will look on my home computer if I can send you some pictures

[alfasteve]

The manufacterer is KYB they are based in Japan they supply most of the LMP race cars and some F1 cars

[macgtech]

One slightly approach to reducing the effort required in the steering is to increase the front tyre/wheel width, as long as the extra width is added to the inside of the wheel. This reduces the steering offset (the distance between the kingpin axis and the tyre contact patch) and as such reduces the amount of leverage required to turn the wheel. It also has the added benefit of increasing front end grip.

Just a thought.

[dandare]

macgtech said:

One slightly approach to reducing the effort required in the steering is to increase the front tyre/wheel width, as long as the extra width is added to the inside of the wheel. This reduces the steering offset (the distance between the kingpin axis and the tyre contact patch) and as such reduces the amount of leverage required to turn the wheel. It also has the added benefit of increasing front end grip.

Just a thought.

Win. Win.

[V8Dom]

dandare said:

Win. Win.

so record car suspension with wider tyres...sorted

Dom

[3Dee]

macgtech said:

One slightly approach to reducing the effort required in the steering is to increase the front tyre/wheel width, as long as the extra width is added to the inside of the wheel. This reduces the steering offset (the distance between the kingpin axis and the tyre contact patch) and as such reduces the amount of leverage required to turn the wheel. It also has the added benefit of increasing front end grip.

Just a thought.

But, don't you then run into problems with the tyre potentially coming into contact with the surrounding bodywork on lock either way? Especially when the front wheel is unloaded?

[738 driver]

You can fit restrictors to the rack Keith or go the whole hog with longer wishbones, shock mounts and wheel/tyre combo's..