Track spec GTR tested in EVO.
Discussion
I have got Evo on subs.
The GTR is the red one Richard came to Santa Pod in, with the slightly wider front track (front wheels are less dished).
It is not running on rosejoints, but obviously has the wider track. Not sure what the other mods were - front splitter was pointed out in the article, but it didn't look a million miles different from other specc'd up GTRs to my non-professional eyes.
Anyone know the full differences?
ATB
Domster
The GTR is the red one Richard came to Santa Pod in, with the slightly wider front track (front wheels are less dished).
It is not running on rosejoints, but obviously has the wider track. Not sure what the other mods were - front splitter was pointed out in the article, but it didn't look a million miles different from other specc'd up GTRs to my non-professional eyes.
Anyone know the full differences?
ATB
Domster
PiB - Rose joints do away with the bushes, this gives more control over the wheel movement. By not having compliant rubber bushes within the suspension components you have more control. Also, you can gain more adjustment of the suspension setup. It can make the ride a lot harsher though.
The other mods I spotted were the rear anti-roll bars fitted and the engine compartment baces were welded and not bolted. This would help stiffen up the chassis!
Although not visible in the pics, front anti-roll bars are also fitted IIRC. The front wheel offset is to allow for longer front wishbones. Not totally sure what effect these have, although those that driven a GTR with both say it does make a difference. They may help give better front suspension control.
>> Edited by ultimapaul on Friday 3rd January 19:47
The other mods I spotted were the rear anti-roll bars fitted and the engine compartment baces were welded and not bolted. This would help stiffen up the chassis!
Although not visible in the pics, front anti-roll bars are also fitted IIRC. The front wheel offset is to allow for longer front wishbones. Not totally sure what effect these have, although those that driven a GTR with both say it does make a difference. They may help give better front suspension control.
>> Edited by ultimapaul on Friday 3rd January 19:47
There is a test of the new factory demo car in this months EVO magazine. I spotted 3 chassis mods at first glance of the pics, how many can you see????
if that was a factory demo model I would be a bit worried! admittedly it looked & sounded gorgeous and went like stink but after overtaking me at Donnington it parked up and caught fire!!!
evidence of this can been seen by the scorch marks on the d/s rear of the car above the exhaust.
very nice car though..
Bennno
The 3 mods
FIA cage
Front splitter
Anti roll bars
The car also has no double skin
No more mods,this i not guess this i's facts,and the car has the light weight body but it was so flapy so they needed to strenght i't up so it's not light weighr any more
>> Edited by GTRmannen on Sunday 5th January 14:03
FIA cage
Front splitter
Anti roll bars
The car also has no double skin
No more mods,this i not guess this i's facts,and the car has the light weight body but it was so flapy so they needed to strenght i't up so it's not light weighr any more
>> Edited by GTRmannen on Sunday 5th January 14:03
The theme in this month's EVO (silly power) seems to raise the question regarding the usability of huge urge whilst retaining drivability.
These Ultimas seem deliriously powerful and wonderful for track use but are they exploitable on the road?
At the end of the day, Domster has warned me about the uncompliance of the ride off track, making his 911RS feel as cossetting as the presidential suite on the QE2...
These Ultimas seem deliriously powerful and wonderful for track use but are they exploitable on the road?
At the end of the day, Domster has warned me about the uncompliance of the ride off track, making his 911RS feel as cossetting as the presidential suite on the QE2...
derestrictor - I am biased, but, one of the comments I get EVERY time I take someone out in my car is how civilised the ride is. Sure you tend to hear whats going on but there is no harshness to what filters through.
As for real world road performance ..... NO I would not use mine every day as a commute car. It is very usable though, just a little more extreme than anything else out there. OH! AND GREAT FUN !!!!!!!!!!!
As for real world road performance ..... NO I would not use mine every day as a commute car. It is very usable though, just a little more extreme than anything else out there. OH! AND GREAT FUN !!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks Paul - my problem is that I can generally only get my motoring kicks on generally atrociously surfaced local A and B routes, so the avoidance of tramlining and internal organ rearrangement is something which although amusing for a short time can become tedious...
Then again, I've found poor surfaces' effects tend to diminish proportionately to one's acceleration so in an Ultima perhaps I'm worrying without significant cause.
One thing; on the road, how do you find the controllability and feel with such an insane power to weight ratio?
Then again, I've found poor surfaces' effects tend to diminish proportionately to one's acceleration so in an Ultima perhaps I'm worrying without significant cause.
One thing; on the road, how do you find the controllability and feel with such an insane power to weight ratio?
derestrictor
Try a test drive with Ted, his route is mainly 'B' with a large section I would call 'C'. It's out in the country and the surface is dreadfull, loose gravel etc. with pot holes all over. The ride was loud but in no way harsh or uncomfortable. The ride quality was something I need to check out having had an op. on my back but it presented no problems so I bought one.
Steve
Try a test drive with Ted, his route is mainly 'B' with a large section I would call 'C'. It's out in the country and the surface is dreadfull, loose gravel etc. with pot holes all over. The ride was loud but in no way harsh or uncomfortable. The ride quality was something I need to check out having had an op. on my back but it presented no problems so I bought one.
Steve
I live in the sticks and use the car for my 30 mile comute as often as I can.
My route consists of evenly of A, B and C roads (I actually live on a C road so no avoiding it). The car handles these roads as well as my cossie, and I have coilovers on both cars and the ride isn't that much different.
The ride is miles better than the old RS1600i that I have, more compient, less roll and less 'rashy'. I suppose its what your used too.
My route consists of evenly of A, B and C roads (I actually live on a C road so no avoiding it). The car handles these roads as well as my cossie, and I have coilovers on both cars and the ride isn't that much different.
The ride is miles better than the old RS1600i that I have, more compient, less roll and less 'rashy'. I suppose its what your used too.
bennno said:
There is a test of the new factory demo car in this months EVO magazine. I spotted 3 chassis mods at first glance of the pics, how many can you see????
if that was a factory demo model I would be a bit worried! admittedly it looked & sounded gorgeous and went like stink but after overtaking me at Donnington it parked up and caught fire!!!
evidence of this can been seen by the scorch marks on the d/s rear of the car above the exhaust.
very nice car though..
Bennno
Bennno - I hope you've not got tired of TVR bashing and moved on to Ultimas.
If you have - you'll soon get removed
As far as the scorch marks go, I think that you'll find that the flames that get spat out on downshifts do it. Check some of the videos on the factory site for a visual demonstration.
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