How much do they really cost
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Nice one Stig - heh, who's worried - as you said, you pay your money..... It' also great to see that it appeals to all sorts of car nuts with one thing in common - something many other "badges" cannot hope to achieve. As long as we all feel we are getting value for money then who cares! Now, get back to building your site - hey, marriage is one thing, 4 kids under 6 is another, then you soon learn there is no time to build a car, let alone a web-site (not that I would know how too!) - good luck. PS, *** the splitter, do they supply roof bars as an option - ever seen a GTR with a Thule? Tasteful - not!
Stig,
The splitter looks good! I `ve just got back from the factory again today and I asked Ted about the splitter. He said he could not notice any real difference in roadholding or downforce below 120mph, but they do really make the front end look mean. He said the only other problem with them if fitted correctly in the right place, is that when you open the front up and drop it down, the splitter hits the ground, is this correct?
Dave up at the factory is sorting out a special pedal box for me so I can drive the car properly. Couldn`t resist, but had to have another good look round and get in the cars again.
The3 demo cars looked awesome as now all gleaming for the show up at the NEC this week/weekend.
Dave
The splitter looks good! I `ve just got back from the factory again today and I asked Ted about the splitter. He said he could not notice any real difference in roadholding or downforce below 120mph, but they do really make the front end look mean. He said the only other problem with them if fitted correctly in the right place, is that when you open the front up and drop it down, the splitter hits the ground, is this correct?
Dave up at the factory is sorting out a special pedal box for me so I can drive the car properly. Couldn`t resist, but had to have another good look round and get in the cars again.
The3 demo cars looked awesome as now all gleaming for the show up at the NEC this week/weekend.
Dave
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Does it bollocks. I'm quite capable of fabricating a splitter thank you very much, but I went for the factory one because I was offered it.
Also, the factory fit the splitter upon request - not as standard. So I dunno qhat this 'reason' is all about.
Didn't understand your response until I read the "quote" you included, there is a reason I deleted the comment as it didn't read as I intended, your response proved me right. I meant some people prefer to have a go at doing it themselves rather than buying off the shelf, I bought and built an Ultima because I like tinkering, I built my own house for the same reason. These comments are long and boring so I decided to not bother trying to explain what I meant and just delete it.
As you are well aware its easy to offend here without meaning too.
Factory only fit the acusump upon request too whats your point???
Does it bollocks. I'm quite capable of fabricating a splitter thank you very much, but I went for the factory one because I was offered it.
Also, the factory fit the splitter upon request - not as standard. So I dunno qhat this 'reason' is all about.
Didn't understand your response until I read the "quote" you included, there is a reason I deleted the comment as it didn't read as I intended, your response proved me right. I meant some people prefer to have a go at doing it themselves rather than buying off the shelf, I bought and built an Ultima because I like tinkering, I built my own house for the same reason. These comments are long and boring so I decided to not bother trying to explain what I meant and just delete it.
As you are well aware its easy to offend here without meaning too.
Factory only fit the acusump upon request too whats your point???
So, I suppose it is time for someone to post an actual answer to the thread topic 
Posted about a month ago:-
I haven't had a good look through it, but it should be a reasonable guide.
I priced a CanAm at around £48k (with help from Ted). The way I see it, once you get to £40k, you may as well save that last little bit of cash, otherwise you (well, I would anyway) will always be thinking, this is great, but it could have been ...... I mean - do you really want Ford Granada brakes
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>> Edited by daydreamer on Tuesday 7th January 23:02
Posted about a month ago:-
barter said: Have a look at this MS Excel spreadsheet. (430k). I created it early last year with help from the Ultima Club South East organiser, Darren Gosbee.
I haven't had a good look through it, but it should be a reasonable guide.
I priced a CanAm at around £48k (with help from Ted). The way I see it, once you get to £40k, you may as well save that last little bit of cash, otherwise you (well, I would anyway) will always be thinking, this is great, but it could have been ...... I mean - do you really want Ford Granada brakes
????? >> Edited by daydreamer on Tuesday 7th January 23:02
Hey Stig, on the point about it's better to do it yourself if you can ( Make it rather than Buy it.)
Being an Qualified Engineer I Made the Following Myself.
Cooling System SS water Pipes, Rad etc
Gearchange Rod Linkage Also made from SS and Apex Joints.
Fuel Tanks.
Gearbox Mounts.
Air Con.
Built my own Engine, and Gearbox.
Seats.
Dash Mouldings.
Spot the differance if you can.....
Being an Qualified Engineer I Made the Following Myself.
Cooling System SS water Pipes, Rad etc
Gearchange Rod Linkage Also made from SS and Apex Joints.
Fuel Tanks.
Gearbox Mounts.
Air Con.
Built my own Engine, and Gearbox.
Seats.
Dash Mouldings.
Spot the differance if you can.....
ultimaandy said: [quote
Does it bollocks. I'm quite capable of fabricating a splitter thank you very much, but I went for the factory one because I was offered it.
Also, the factory fit the splitter upon request - not as standard. So I dunno qhat this 'reason' is all about.
Didn't understand your response until I read the "quote" you included, there is a reason I deleted the comment as it didn't read as I intended, your response proved me right. I meant some people prefer to have a go at doing it themselves rather than buying off the shelf, I bought and built an Ultima because I like tinkering, I built my own house for the same reason. These comments are long and boring so I decided to not bother trying to explain what I meant and just delete it.
As you are well aware its easy to offend here without meaning too.
Factory only fit the acusump upon request too whats your point???
Precisely. So before you hit that 'Submit Reply' button, take a moment to re-read what you're saying as it can get misinterpreted (as my response proves).
My comment about the splitter being upon request, is that the cars don't 'need' them as such (same is true of the Acusump). You're comment - which was in a strange context after you'd deleted part of it, which I didn't get to see - made it look like there was some sort of issue with some cars, that required them to have a splitter fitted. Given recent thread content about supposedly 'understeering' characteristics (which have bog all to do with aerodynamics and far more to do with the chassis/suspension dynamics after they've been farted about with non standard mods) your response could fuel the argument again.
Anyway, I'm sure you know what you meant and apologies if I misinterpreted it.
Like I said, take a moment to think about your reply before posting and we'll all keep our toys in our prams
GTRCLIVE said: Hey Stig, on the point about it's better to do it yourself if you can ( Make it rather than Buy it.)
Being an Qualified Engineer I Made the Following Myself.
Cooling System SS water Pipes, Rad etc
Gearchange Rod Linkage Also made from SS and Apex Joints.
Fuel Tanks.
Gearbox Mounts.
Air Con.
Built my own Engine, and Gearbox.
Seats.
Dash Mouldings.
Spot the differance if you can.....
Good for you and I'm sure you enjoyed it. Personally, I don't have that much spare time to get these things done and it would have made the build take about 3 years instead of 7 months.
For the record, I've built 2 race cars which required far more fabrication than the Ultima and have rebuilt more. But I had more time then.
Have a look at www.locost-racing.com for my original build site (pre Ultima)
I'm not decrying people who make their own bits, au contraire, I applaud them! However, this doesn't then give them the right to say that 'assemblers' are in some way, unqualified. Do Ultima say you have to be a qualified engineer to build a car - no, quite the opposite.
As for spotting the difference - well, it took me 2 seconds to think of this for starters:
Dear Stig Car Took me under 12Months to complete, and if I hadn't done alot my self then it wouldn't have been My car. Something of me is in it, and thats me all over realy. Personalisation ( WOW is that a word or what ..) and to be alittle different is why I built the car in ther first place. STANDING out from the crowd is what all us Ult owners are..... I just wanted to stand out from other Ult's as well.
PS isn't that why you've got the Blower !!
See you at the show Hopefully. I be the one with the Daytona hat on.
PS isn't that why you've got the Blower !!
See you at the show Hopefully. I be the one with the Daytona hat on.
Calm down mate! I was just trying to balance the comment that "Hit's better to do it yourself if you can ( Make it rather than Buy it.)".
It's not better, or worse. It is, as you say 'personalisation'. Indeed, there's various bits and bobs on mine that are unique to the car and don't come from the factory.
So each to their own, if you want to 'build' the car and fabricate certain elements yourself then so be it, all I was saying was that it's unfair to treat people who 'assemble' their cars using off-the-shelf parts as being in some way inferior.
Cool?!
Oh, I went for the blower for a whole host of reasons, resale value, power delivery, engine characteristics, value for money, not just to be 'different'. That's a bonus
PS. Have you sold it yet then?
>> Edited by Stig (moderator) on Thursday 9th January 09:38
It's not better, or worse. It is, as you say 'personalisation'. Indeed, there's various bits and bobs on mine that are unique to the car and don't come from the factory.
So each to their own, if you want to 'build' the car and fabricate certain elements yourself then so be it, all I was saying was that it's unfair to treat people who 'assemble' their cars using off-the-shelf parts as being in some way inferior.
Cool?!
Oh, I went for the blower for a whole host of reasons, resale value, power delivery, engine characteristics, value for money, not just to be 'different'. That's a bonus
PS. Have you sold it yet then?
>> Edited by Stig (moderator) on Thursday 9th January 09:38
...and Stig's blower engine won't eb unique when I ring up American Speed and order the same spec lump
The only way Stig can stop me is to buy my B10VVN number plate when funds allow (although an impending marriage with Helen will stretch the piggy bank even further no doubt!).
Just checked the site again Stig, and it is truly a thing of wonder
The only way Stig can stop me is to buy my B10VVN number plate when funds allow (although an impending marriage with Helen will stretch the piggy bank even further no doubt!).
Just checked the site again Stig, and it is truly a thing of wonder
So how about you giving it to me as a wedding present then Dom?
Otherwise putting it on yours will only encourage it to blow up
Edited to say that there are (to my knowledge) two other 'chargers in the UK from American Speed.
>> Edited by Stig (moderator) on Thursday 9th January 10:46
Otherwise putting it on yours will only encourage it to blow up
Edited to say that there are (to my knowledge) two other 'chargers in the UK from American Speed.
>> Edited by Stig (moderator) on Thursday 9th January 10:46
Andy, nice to see you had problems keeping it in your pants also! For me, I finally discovered what the problem was and was about to buy a tv. Instead, I bought a GTR and am currently at the luggage pods stage (and that sounds appropriate). The problem I have now is that the "fun inhibitor" (wife) now feels left out as I have changed habits - no longer come to bed and am building a two seater (rather selfish) and not a people carrier as she once thought - she thought GT was for grand tourer, like a grand voyager or grand espace?!# Ah, funny that, still I told her it was a blue one and she was made happy.
Doz
I had the same problem with the wife apparently I had another woman and she lived/s in the garage, I had to make numberous promises to reduce the nagging (probably justified on her part though). Doesn't help now though that I sold our Previa a few months ago and bought a Mondeo! I'm living on borrowed time.
STIG
Come on, no-one suggested that 'making' is better than 'buying' and I have already explained that the two words your picking on didn't mean that.
There was no derogatery intent in my post so please don't continue to take it that way.
Also for information (just in case it was directed at me) every suspension item on my car was sourced from the factory and the geometry was set up by the factory pre-SVA and I can't recomend this service enough.
I had the same problem with the wife apparently I had another woman and she lived/s in the garage, I had to make numberous promises to reduce the nagging (probably justified on her part though). Doesn't help now though that I sold our Previa a few months ago and bought a Mondeo! I'm living on borrowed time.
STIG
Come on, no-one suggested that 'making' is better than 'buying' and I have already explained that the two words your picking on didn't mean that.
There was no derogatery intent in my post so please don't continue to take it that way.
Also for information (just in case it was directed at me) every suspension item on my car was sourced from the factory and the geometry was set up by the factory pre-SVA and I can't recomend this service enough.
She has recently twigged on that "surely a vasectomy would be cheaper than the £thousands you are spending in the garage" {actually £thousands on building a new garage with heating and £thousands on a GTR to be precise} but I don't know about you, I think it worth every penny as I am not keen on having needles around my giblets and am fed up of making excuses at the chemists (ah, they're not for me!!!). She actually thought that the garage was for HER car - Bl***y cheek, I ask you!
Shame you can't get there tomorrow - was hoping to tap into your excuse notebook!
Doz
Shame you can't get there tomorrow - was hoping to tap into your excuse notebook!
Doz
Excuse? I just stay at work until she goes to bed.
For the weekends I use the tried and tested 'DIY', having only partially finished our house (its got a roof and walls, not much else) its easy to find that next job. Currently using the 'Ripped out the bathroom so need to get on Luv' chesnut.
I have to be a bit careful as I recently caught the missus joining Pistonheads.... as if life wasn't complicated enough.
For the weekends I use the tried and tested 'DIY', having only partially finished our house (its got a roof and walls, not much else) its easy to find that next job. Currently using the 'Ripped out the bathroom so need to get on Luv' chesnut.
I have to be a bit careful as I recently caught the missus joining Pistonheads
.... as if life wasn't complicated enough.
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