BMW M5 V10 Engine
Discussion
craig7l said:
its just a costly way to be different for no apparant real gains/benefit over an LS. (or please explain - apart from an oww errr its a V10 factor)
but theres always somebody for something
Craig whatever I say it seems that you will poo poo it. If you can't see the advantages of the latest technology bmw over the ls1 ls3....... It doesn't take Einstein to see what I am getting at.but theres always somebody for something
Ascari chose the M5 V8 to run in all their cars with fantastic result and they had the choice of any engine. This is yet another generation on from their engine.
Pee
pee said:
pilbeam_mp62 said:
I suppose it is also a disadvantage that if this engine goes into a newly built GTR it will
have to have a "Q" plate.
Regards
No it will go on an age related plate like any other ULtima!have to have a "Q" plate.
Regards
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSell...
..but I am sure someone will come along in a minute with a definitive answer.
Regards
pee said:
If that's the case then why are all the ultimas on the road not supporting Q plates??? The engine I put mine through with was a 1973!
I'm pretty sure you can use 1 second hand component.
Pee
Yes - you can use 1 - the gearboxI'm pretty sure you can use 1 second hand component.
Pee
From that website :-
"Kit cars which have been built using not more than one reconditioned component will also be registered under a current mark. This is subject to the provision of satisfactory evidence that the component has been reconditioned to an "as new" standard. An ESVA, SVA or MSVA test will be required"
That is the G50 gearbox accounted for....
With a second-hand BMW engine fitted, you have to then have a "Q" plate (AFAIK)
Regards
Edited by pilbeam_mp62 on Friday 25th July 13:39
it will need a NEW mating gearbox and receipts that this engine has been reconditioned to "as new" for it to get an age related plate
If a recon as new engine and a recon as new gearbox is used it will get a "q" plate
It also needs to be on DVLAs list of engine numbers / gearbox numbers for variuos reasons but for one so its not showing as a nicked part, so i think then import 2nd hand bits may be a problem?
so what new box will go with it? Price?
If a recon as new engine and a recon as new gearbox is used it will get a "q" plate
It also needs to be on DVLAs list of engine numbers / gearbox numbers for variuos reasons but for one so its not showing as a nicked part, so i think then import 2nd hand bits may be a problem?
so what new box will go with it? Price?
pilbeam_mp62 said:
pee said:
If that's the case then why are all the ultimas on the road not supporting Q plates??? The engine I put mine through with was a 1973!
I'm pretty sure you can use 1 second hand component.
Pee
Yes - you can use 1 - the gearboxI'm pretty sure you can use 1 second hand component.
Pee
From that website :-
"Kit cars which have been built using not more than one reconditioned component will also be registered under a current mark. This is subject to the provision of satisfactory evidence that the component has been reconditioned to an "as new" standard. An ESVA, SVA or MSVA test will be required"
That is the G50 gearbox accounted for....
With a second-hand BMW engine fitted, you have to then have a "Q" plate.
Lots of ultimas on the road with age related plates!!!!!!!
Where there's a will there's way.
This is not an issue.
Pee
Regards
Edited by pee on Friday 25th July 13:42
Pee
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Lots of ultimas on the road with age related plates!!!!!!!
Where there's a will there's way.
This is not an issue.
Pee
Regards
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It may not be an issue for the SELLER of an engine but it would be a MAJOR issue
for me (a potential BUYER)
For that reason alone I would not even consider it.
If I am spending 45-60k on an Ultima build, I want a brand spanking new registration plate.
Why ?
Because if and when I come to sell the car, my market is immediately reduced because
anyone who doesn't like the "look and feel" of a "Q" plate would not consider buying my car.
Just my opinion, but I wish you well with the sale.
Regards
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Lots of ultimas on the road with age related plates!!!!!!!
Where there's a will there's way.
This is not an issue.
Pee
Regards
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It may not be an issue for the SELLER of an engine but it would be a MAJOR issue
for me (a potential BUYER)
For that reason alone I would not even consider it.
If I am spending 45-60k on an Ultima build, I want a brand spanking new registration plate.
Why ?
Because if and when I come to sell the car, my market is immediately reduced because
anyone who doesn't like the "look and feel" of a "Q" plate would not consider buying my car.
Just my opinion, but I wish you well with the sale.
Regards
the SVA examiner will record the details of engine, gearbox and such which ties in with the MAC certificate at a pass.
The plate assigning has nothing to do with SVA
on application for a reg document on filling in the V267/1 form the "Declairation of newness" these will have to tie in.
you could be "lucky" and avoid getting a "Q" but i wouldnt want to risk it!!!!!!!!
oh and by the way the SVA rules and regs change from april09 with the initial differences being noticed as being harder and more expensive to register a class (L), low volumne or turnkey.
all yet to be clarified and confirmed
The plate assigning has nothing to do with SVA
on application for a reg document on filling in the V267/1 form the "Declairation of newness" these will have to tie in.
you could be "lucky" and avoid getting a "Q" but i wouldnt want to risk it!!!!!!!!
oh and by the way the SVA rules and regs change from april09 with the initial differences being noticed as being harder and more expensive to register a class (L), low volumne or turnkey.
all yet to be clarified and confirmed
Edited by craig7l on Friday 25th July 13:55
There are plenty of Ultima's out there with recon engine & gearbox that have been registered as new - maybe they consider the engine & box as a single component! It is my understanding that you would however need receipts to prove both the engine & box have been recon'd as new.
Edited by SlackBlevens on Friday 25th July 14:51
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