Retro Hifi..

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nta16

7,898 posts

234 months

Saturday 8th June 2013
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well, I recognize almost all the gear in this thread from being interest in hi-fi from 1976 but some of the stuff is out of my price league so to adjust the balance -
my neighbour still has a mid-70s National Panasonic music centre*, the wide one box type that were the then modern replacements for the 'stereograms'

record deck with receiver and cassette deck all together in one unit with full width smoked plastic cover and separate speakers!

I've not got photos of my hi-fi throughout the years but it started with a Pioneer PL15 record deck (with arm return unlike the more popular PL12), Akai 30wpc amp and some biggish (50 litre perhaps) Sony speakers and a pair of square box metal tube C shape cube speaker stands, I think the whole lot cost me £300 which was three months gross (not net) wages to me

I might have a photo of some 1980s JBL horizontal 50 litre studio monitors I had partnered with a Harmon Karden 120wpc integrated amp and I think a very expensive French CD player, all housed in our small living room, it explains my slight tinnitus now

  • bought I think when VAT was 25% for luxury goods, remember that, went up from 12½% or was it 17½%(?)
Edited by nta16 on Saturday 8th June 14:46

Mouse1903

839 posts

153 months

Saturday 8th June 2013
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I've just powered up my 'new' old gear for the first time. Wow, really powerful and excellent sound quality. Only issue is the CD-63, on certain CD's some instruments may be missing or very quiet yet others all instruments are present and very detailed. Any ideas? Everything is connected correctly

nta16

7,898 posts

234 months

Saturday 8th June 2013
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Marantz CD-63 is that

either one of your ears has a partial blockage, wax, pillow ect.

or the balance control on amp

or CD player lens needs cleaning

or the actual CD needs cleaning (doubtful but hey might be, careful with cleaning procedure read up on it)

is it going through a graphic equalizer that needs adjusting (or my choice removing)

you cleaned all interconnect and equipment connections?

or it could be that's how it is

do they still use transit screws when selling CD players?

Edited by nta16 on Saturday 8th June 14:43

Zad

12,700 posts

236 months

Saturday 8th June 2013
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If it has a headphone socket (I can't see one in the photos) then try plugging them in directly and listening there. That will rule out the amplifier etc.

One possibility is that one/many/all of the electrolytic capacitors have dried up over time, as they tend to. This could easily filter out a range of frequencies. Easy to replace if you are reasonably handy with a soldering iron.

nta16

7,898 posts

234 months

Saturday 8th June 2013
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good call I forgot that price level would have a headphone socket but probably full size 'jack' so old 'phones' or mini-to-full jack converter, or adapter lead, required

ETA: a very careful spray of electrical contact cleaner in the right area might help (but it might not) and give a temporary or permanent 'repair'

I've sorted quite a few minor faults by a quick spray - it like a lot of car (classic) maintenance just boiling down to cleaning and lubing

Edited by nta16 on Saturday 8th June 20:39

TwigtheWonderkid

43,363 posts

150 months

Sunday 9th June 2013
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otherman said:
Digby said:
ah, a bendy arm and a strobe. Lovely.
Take a look at the Audio Technica LP120 USB turntable, a complete take off of the Technics 1200 but with the ability to link up to your PC to transfer music on to a digital format.

I want one of these so badly but there's no way I can justify it, as my existing turntable (Bush MTT1) gives excellent results for what it is and my brother has a USB turntable for when I need to transfer to digital. But I WANT a S shaped tubular arm and a strobe. I wish the Bush would give up the ghost and give me the excuse I need.



Jaguar steve

9,232 posts

210 months

Monday 8th July 2013
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Early 80s? Apart from the CD player that's where most of my system comes from




Edited by Jaguar steve on Monday 8th July 11:17

GRL

252 posts

224 months

Tuesday 9th July 2013
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Jaguar steve said:
Early 80s? Apart from the CD player that's where most of my system comes from




Edited by Jaguar steve on Monday 8th July 11:17
Tasty rig! You clearly value PRAT music

Jaguar steve

9,232 posts

210 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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GRL said:
Jaguar steve said:
Early 80s? Apart from the CD player that's where most of my system comes from




Edited by Jaguar steve on Monday 8th July 11:17
Tasty rig! You clearly value PRAT music
Prog Rock and Analogue Technology? wink What's not to like?

final_edition

653 posts

215 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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I'll have to get some pics of my 70's champagne Marantz hifi.

The tuner has a blue CRO.

Odie

4,187 posts

182 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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I have a marantz CD-63, it sounds awesome, im not using it atm as it needs a new laser thing as its started skipping and cleaning it hasnt helped.

Their is a guide online somewhere on what to buy and how to do it, I will see if I can find it for you.

ETA Guide - http://www.iangclark.net/projects/CD63/CD63.html

Note, I think the CD-63, CD-63se & the CD-63KI all have different Laser Mechanisms.

Edited by Odie on Wednesday 31st July 09:50

TonyRPH

12,972 posts

168 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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Odie said:
I have a marantz CD-63, it sounds awesome, im not using it atm as it needs a new laser thing as its started skipping and cleaning it hasnt helped.

Their is a guide online somewhere on what to buy and how to do it, I will see if I can find it for you.

ETA Guide - http://www.iangclark.net/projects/CD63/CD63.html

Note, I think the CD-63, CD-63se & the CD-63KI all have different Laser Mechanisms.

Edited by Odie on Wednesday 31st July 09:50
AFAIK, the 63, 63SE and KI all have the same mech.

Thing is - there was also an earlier CD63, which was in the form of a top loader, using the old swing arm mechanism (now totally obsolete).

Old mechanism was CDM-4/19 (might have been CDM-0) and the later CD63 used the CDM12.1.

This is the old CD63



And this is the later CD63 (which was also came in SE and Ki editions).


geezerbutler

525 posts

142 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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Nice - I have a CD63 in the loft. Been up there for years along with my Kenwood KX580 cassette deck.

I did bring my Mission Cyrus One down from the loft a few weeks ago and it is working great - I think it's been up there for nearly 10 years!

caprirob

263 posts

145 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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Big fan of retro hifi stuff

My setup includes a Rotel RC971 / RB 971 Pre/power amp setup, Technics SH8058 graphic equaliser and a pair of Mordaunt Short MS55ti floorstanders - Also have an 80's Pioneer turntable and a 90's Sony CD player.

Got a Denon DRM550 cassette deck in the loft which was superb in its day but hasnt been used for over 10 Years now.

My Dad still has a pair of the original legendary kef 104 floorstanders that he bought new in the late 70's - they are used every day and still sound superb

Mermaid

21,492 posts

171 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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geezerbutler said:
Nice - I have a CD63 in the loft. Been up there for years along with my Kenwood KX580 cassette deck.

I did bring my Mission Cyrus One down from the loft a few weeks ago and it is working great - I think it's been up there for nearly 10 years!
If only houses did not have lofts smile

Spanglepants

1,743 posts

137 months

Friday 2nd August 2013
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TonyRPH said:
I used to have a CD player that looked the same as that early CD63 but it was a Meridian. When it stopped working I took it apart and inside it had Sony markings on it.



AFAIK, the 63, 63SE and KI all have the same mech.

Thing is - there was also an earlier CD63, which was in the form of a top loader, using the old swing arm mechanism (now totally obsolete).

Old mechanism was CDM-4/19 (might have been CDM-0) and the later CD63 used the CDM12.1.

This is the old CD63



And this is the later CD63 (which was also came in SE and Ki editions).

JCW

905 posts

207 months

Friday 9th August 2013
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Can anyone recommend a hi-fi outlet that could repair a Rega Planar 3 that needs a new belt/tone arm and cartridge in the Oxford area?

Looking for a backstreet type who really knows his stuff; the type who can recite parts numbers from '70s rather than asim dealer as the prices/advice I'm getting aren't up to much.

Marvindodgers

734 posts

216 months

Friday 9th August 2013
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Deco Audio in Aylesbury are really good for record deck repairs and servicing. I had my Rega P3 looked at by them a few months ago and it came back playing better than new.
http://decoaudio.com/

hman

7,487 posts

194 months

Friday 9th August 2013
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quad 405-2
quad 33 preamp
rogers LS35a speakers
B&W subwoofer

is 80's stuff retro enough?

Roadster25

272 posts

162 months

Friday 9th August 2013
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Regas tend to be pretty straightforward. Have a go yourself!

The belt is just like an elastic band, there is just one nut holding the arm on. The only fiddly but is fitting a cartridge, but they are easier than they used to be as they often have threaded bodies now.

Deco should easily be able to get you the parts.

Running an early 90s Exposure VII pre / VIII power combination myself, also got a Gyrodec and a Systemdek II in use. Old is good!