4K HDR10 TV choice

[varsas]

BRR said:

earlier this year I bought a Samsung KS7000 which I now use with my One X, I think I paid about £850 for the 55" one. I looked at the LG OLED etc when buying it and to be honest I couldn't tell any real difference in the picture quality, I'm sure the OLED is better but maybe my eyes are just rubbish as there was no noticeable difference, not one where I could justify spending double the money anyway. I've been really impressed with the TV and haven't yet had any of the issues others have reported with them

The most noticable difference is with the black level. On an OLED black is completly black, on all LED based TV's it's a dark grey. This is less noticable in a bright room (e.g. a TV showroom), and in fact an LED's increased peak brightness can make them look more dynamic in that kind of environment. In a darkened room, when your iris opens up and is more sensitive to low light, the difference becomes more apparent and lends the OLED a much deeper picture, with purer colours. In bright rooms LED is the better choice. It depends how your TV is used really. My computer monitor is LED, and would be even if OLED were available. Having said that the difference between the OLED sets and LED's was very noticable in my local John Lewis, but as I've always said if you can't see what the fuss is about buy an LED and save yourself some money!

[Lazadude]

varsas said:

The most noticable difference is with the black level. On an OLED black is completly black, on all LED based TV's it's a dark grey. This is less noticable in a bright room (e.g. a TV showroom), and in fact an LED's increased peak brightness can make them look more dynamic in that kind of environment. In a darkened room, when your iris opens up and is more sensitive to low light, the difference becomes more apparent and lends the OLED a much deeper picture, with purer colours. In bright rooms LED is the better choice. It depends how your TV is used really. My computer monitor is LED, and would be even if OLED were available. Having said that the difference between the OLED sets and LED's was very noticable in my local John Lewis, but as I've always said if you can't see what the fuss is about buy an LED and save yourself some money!

I found this from 4k.com very useful at describing the differences. Where OLED is each pixel can be turned on or off compared to LCD/QLED where its managed from the stripes of LEDs running along each edge.

For example, LG OLED on left, Samsung QLED on right...

[anonymous-user]

Thanks gents, appreciate the help

[BRR]

varsas said:

The most noticable difference is with the black level. On an OLED black is completly black, on all LED based TV's it's a dark grey. This is less noticable in a bright room (e.g. a TV showroom), and in fact an LED's increased peak brightness can make them look more dynamic in that kind of environment. In a darkened room, when your iris opens up and is more sensitive to low light, the difference becomes more apparent and lends the OLED a much deeper picture, with purer colours. In bright rooms LED is the better choice. It depends how your TV is used really. My computer monitor is LED, and would be even if OLED were available. Having said that the difference between the OLED sets and LED's was very noticable in my local John Lewis, but as I've always said if you can't see what the fuss is about buy an LED and save yourself some money!

Thanks for the explanation, that does make sense as to why I couldn't tell a difference, even though I was purposely looking for the black level difference. I'd agree that if you can tell the difference and it's a difference that enhances your enjoyment of viewing the game, film or whatever then spend the extra on the OLED, if not then save some money and still get a good TV

my girlfriend can't tell the difference in picture between the KS7000 and the standard HD one we had before, where as I could see a difference between it and the newer device and even the lower end 4k ones so she thinks I wasted money buying the one I did

[BRR]

Lazadude said:

I found this from 4k.com very useful at describing the differences. Where OLED is each pixel can be turned on or off compared to LCD/QLED where its managed from the stripes of LEDs running along each edge.

For example, LG OLED on left, Samsung QLED on right...

is that an actual photo taken of the same scene on both TV's? obviously that difference is massive but I'd argue the picture on the right is just crap and you could have much better than that even on an old standard HD TV?

[B17NNS]

I'm using a Mac with an LCD screen. I'm able to see the quality of the picture on the left. Therefore the TV on the right (also LCD) should also be capable of showing the image on the left non?

I'm sure if I opened Photoshop I could correct the image on the right to look like the one on the left. Using my LCD screen.

[anonymous-user]

That's a striking difference, I wonder if that's an apples for apples comparison (expensive oled versus cheap lcd?)

[Chris Stott]

difference is much less than in those pictures

[gizlaroc]

LCD can't go black because there is a backlight so you can see the image. Some LCDs have zones which can turn on off the backlight as needed.
Most have around 16-32 zones, so parts of the image next to the bright areas can't go black. The best ones with 512 zones, do a much better job but are as much as an OLED.

OLED can turn every pixel on off as needed, so over 8,000,000 zones on a 4k set.

[ThunderSpook]

I looked this up yesterday for the qled tv’s. The majority only have 12 dimming blocks, only jumping to 32 blocks for the Samsung 9 Series qled.

[B17NNS]

OLED65B7V price drop. £2429.10. Not sure on the warranty length though.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/LG-OLED65B7V-Premium-Ultr...

[anonymous-user]

B17NNS said:

OLED65B7V price drop. £2429.10. Not sure on the warranty length though.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/LG-OLED65B7V-Premium-Ultr...

I saw this model yesterday at John Lewis, it was running a 4k demo and it was like night and day with my 4 year old Samsung Series 8.

They didn't have one to take home, but I paid £2699 with a 5 year guarantee and I get It next week. I'm hoping my Samsung wall bracket fits the new LG, really can't be arsed faffing about with a new bracket if at all possible.

[legzr1]

Try a cheeky request for a post purchase price match

[gizlaroc]

LG E7 55" at £1499 at Crampton and Moore!!

http://www.cramptonandmoore.co.uk/televisions/led-...

£2499, add SAVE1000 voucher for £1000 instant cashback.


65" E7 at £3799 with £1300 cashback, so £2499.

[gizlaroc]

Crampton and Moore have 5 year warranty and great customer service too if any issues.

Link for 65"..

http://www.cramptonandmoore.co.uk/televisions/4k/o...

[ThunderSpook]

And no stock cos everyone on HotUKDeals jumped on it, same place you saw it I’m guessing

[gizlaroc]

65" still in stock.

I saw it on avforums.

[gizlaroc]

55" E7 OLED in stock with the same offer at Peter Tyson with 5yr warranty.


http://petertyson.co.uk/index.php/lg-oled55e7n.htm...

I have just ordered, seems rude not to.

[legzr1]

An 'E' at that price is insane.
I'm desperately trying to find a spare wall to justify getting one !!

Will you please stop posting these links?

Out of stock until Nov 30th.

[Matt Cup]

Was just about to order the B7 from curry’s as I thought that was cheap, instead I ordered the E7 this morning from Peter Tyson above.