What’s your Hi-Fi set up? spec and pictures please
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They are great.
There was someone local to me selling a brand new Rosenut pair on eBay a few weeks back. That colour is rare.
I tried and tried and tried to buy them from him, but he was an idiot.
He said he would take £500, I said fine I'll come over and collect them.
He kept saying he would ship them and saying to me "I don't know where you live"
What did that matter? I just didn't want them to arrive damaged, like my last 2 pairs of speakers did.
I said I would pay cash, bank transfer, what ever he wants, save him all fees.
He was one of these that took days to reply to messages and in the end I did wonder if he was a scammer.
But I was gutted to miss out on them, and only down the road as well. It was so frustrating.
In fact, in the end this was the last message I sent to him....
He then said someone else was interested in them. So maybe I dodged a bullet?
There was someone local to me selling a brand new Rosenut pair on eBay a few weeks back. That colour is rare.
I tried and tried and tried to buy them from him, but he was an idiot.
He said he would take £500, I said fine I'll come over and collect them.
He kept saying he would ship them and saying to me "I don't know where you live"
What did that matter? I just didn't want them to arrive damaged, like my last 2 pairs of speakers did.
I said I would pay cash, bank transfer, what ever he wants, save him all fees.
He was one of these that took days to reply to messages and in the end I did wonder if he was a scammer.
But I was gutted to miss out on them, and only down the road as well. It was so frustrating.
In fact, in the end this was the last message I sent to him....
me to ebay seller said:
Just heard the S3/5's on my amp in my room. Borrowed from someone who bought them on my recommendation when I had my last pair.
Really like them, can't be bothered to bugger around anymore.
Will go to £625, cash on collection or through ebay, whatever you want to do.
That was £125 more than he had said he would take from me. Really like them, can't be bothered to bugger around anymore.
Will go to £625, cash on collection or through ebay, whatever you want to do.
He then said someone else was interested in them. So maybe I dodged a bullet?
Itsallicanafford said:
A final evolution of my main system.
I’ve gone for 2 set-ups on the same rack.
Source:
Analogue - Rega RP8/ exact
Digital - raspberry PI with hifiberry hat running roopeee - roon - tidal hi-fi
Set-up 1
Amp - Naim 32.5/ hicap/ 250
Speakers - neat iota Alpha
Set-up 2
Amp- Naim Nait 2
Speakers - linn Kan
Very jealous of that chrome bumper Naim setup. I really fancy some, if only to look good in my room. I’ve gone for 2 set-ups on the same rack.
Source:
Analogue - Rega RP8/ exact
Digital - raspberry PI with hifiberry hat running roopeee - roon - tidal hi-fi
Set-up 1
Amp - Naim 32.5/ hicap/ 250
Speakers - neat iota Alpha
Set-up 2
Amp- Naim Nait 2
Speakers - linn Kan
gizlaroc said:
They are great.
There was someone local to me selling a brand new Rosenut pair on eBay a few weeks back. That colour is rare.
I tried and tried and tried to buy them from him, but he was an idiot.
He said he would take £500, I said fine I'll come over and collect them.
He kept saying he would ship them and saying to me "I don't know where you live"
What did that matter? I just didn't want them to arrive damaged, like my last 2 pairs of speakers did.
I said I would pay cash, bank transfer, what ever he wants, save him all fees.
He was one of these that took days to reply to messages and in the end I did wonder if he was a scammer.
But I was gutted to miss out on them, and only down the road as well. It was so frustrating.
In fact, in the end this was the last message I sent to him....
He then said someone else was interested in them. So maybe I dodged a bullet?
I think so. £500 would have been a dream buy.....what you received may have been a nightmare.There was someone local to me selling a brand new Rosenut pair on eBay a few weeks back. That colour is rare.
I tried and tried and tried to buy them from him, but he was an idiot.
He said he would take £500, I said fine I'll come over and collect them.
He kept saying he would ship them and saying to me "I don't know where you live"
What did that matter? I just didn't want them to arrive damaged, like my last 2 pairs of speakers did.
I said I would pay cash, bank transfer, what ever he wants, save him all fees.
He was one of these that took days to reply to messages and in the end I did wonder if he was a scammer.
But I was gutted to miss out on them, and only down the road as well. It was so frustrating.
In fact, in the end this was the last message I sent to him....
me to ebay seller said:
Just heard the S3/5's on my amp in my room. Borrowed from someone who bought them on my recommendation when I had my last pair.
Really like them, can't be bothered to bugger around anymore.
Will go to £625, cash on collection or through ebay, whatever you want to do.
That was £125 more than he had said he would take from me. Really like them, can't be bothered to bugger around anymore.
Will go to £625, cash on collection or through ebay, whatever you want to do.
He then said someone else was interested in them. So maybe I dodged a bullet?
selym said:
Brand new though? Probably not.
Does that matter with speakers?The fact they stopped making the S3/5R 5 years ago and replaced it with the S3/5R2 means that in all honesty I would prefer them to not be brand new.
I won't post all his replies, but he was a stupid bugger.
I don't think he was trying to rip me off, but he made himself sound well dodgy.
gizlaroc said:
selym said:
Brand new though? Probably not.
Does that matter with speakers?The fact they stopped making the S3/5R 5 years ago and replaced it with the S3/5R2 means that in all honesty I would prefer them to not be brand new.
I won't post all his replies, but he was a stupid bugger.
I don't think he was trying to rip me off, but he made himself sound well dodgy.
selym said:
New means not mistreated, much like any purchase.
Hey? Sorry, I really don't get where you're going with this?
The fact was, he had them advertised at £625 or best offer. I said I wanted them, any less if I collected them with cash? He offered me some S3/5r speakers new and sealed for £500.
Remember, these retailed at £775 new and could be had for £450 when they were replaced with the S3/5R2.
Great, can I come over tomorrow and grab them?
That is when it started getting a bit strange.
The price was fine. I had just bought a pair of light oak ones for £400, but really wanted the Rosenut and was prepared to pay extra for the colour.
I just wanted to pop over, buy some speakers from someone selling speakers. It wasn't any trickier than that.
Were you the seller?
gizlaroc said:
selym said:
New means not mistreated, much like any purchase.
Hey? Sorry, I really don't get where you're going with this?
The fact was, he had them advertised at £625 or best offer. I said I wanted them, any less if I collected them with cash? He offered me some S3/5r speakers new and sealed for £500.
Remember, these retailed at £775 new and could be had for £450 when they were replaced with the S3/5R2.
Great, can I come over tomorrow and grab them?
That is when it started getting a bit strange.
The price was fine. I had just bought a pair of light oak ones for £400, but really wanted the Rosenut and was prepared to pay extra for the colour.
I just wanted to pop over, buy some speakers from someone selling speakers. It wasn't any trickier than that.
Were you the seller?
miniman said:
Shall we return this very interesting thread to the original subject matter and put aside the pissing contest?
Pissing contest?I don't get why he started being so weird? I was only saying I loved his speakers and was gutted I couldn't buy a pair of rosenut ones off someone on ebay.
gizlaroc said:
Tony1963 said:
I’ve heard all sorts of systems, and all sorts of music, and I can see why some love what a sub does. I’m also willing to accept that sub tech has moved on greatly over the last few years. However, they just ain’t for me. I’m in a detached house, have the space, and could afford a decent sub.
But you are throwing away information. Live recordings are often transformed with a sub, even with material with no bass in instruments.
Often it is only when a sub is added that you can tell the size of the venue it was recorded in.
But also, with many speakers they simply can't reproduce the lower end of instruments, the LS3/5a is a good example, sure it sounds weighty with the hump at 76hz, but the reality is by 70hz in 95% of rooms it is already down 6db, and 6 db is a lot.
So, you can't hear the bottom end of a Pianao, harp, harpsicord, cello, bass, bass guitar, bassoon, tuba let alone an organ or so, so much electronic music which has the warmth added and the basslines in the 50hz zone.
As I said, it depends what music yo listen to.
For me I love soundtracks and electronic mixes, therefore a system without being able to get to 40hz properly without drop off sounds pretty s
t to me. Edited by gizlaroc on Monday 10th February 15:49
My fronts are B&W 802.
Centre is B&W HTM1
Side is B&W FPM6
Rear is B&W FPM5
Subwoofer is B&W ASW4000
When my sub was working perfectly, it certainly added in the very low end. It was the B&W top of the range, with the 15 inch speaker from the old 801 series. It packs a serious punch!
However, the electronics in it died a few years back and we moved from house to house, and in a reasonable sized living room, going without it was perfectly reasonable, in some cases preferable. That said, the B&W 802s bi-amped with a very chunky power amp meant I wasn't missing out on anything.
We recently moved to a house with a bigger living room - 8m by 6m and that got me the sub out again, and I bypassed the internal electronics and ran it as a passive sub from a spare channel on the power amp. It's set up with the Audyessy EQ with the microphone setup, and tweaked a bit to my ears.
What is good is with the 802s you can 'feel' the low bass. With the ASW4000, it thumps you. There's some well recorded music Audio DVDs and music blu-rays that this adds an extra dimension to, albeit it smears where the low bass is coming from in the mix.
For films, of course, there is a clear benefit as the sub is used as an impact device for explosions etc, and those feeling like they physically hit you is great. On the downside those very low frequencies activate the woodburner flue to vibrate pretty much every time which is a bit distracting.
In conclusion, I think you can run a system very happily either way depending on your taste. When I had a 4m by 5m cinema room the sub was simply overkill, but my speakers have drivers in them that are the size of some subs already. However, for a bigger room, they become a benefit. For music, it depends. If you like to physically 'feel' your music, then, it's almost essential.
JustinP1 said:
gizlaroc said:
Tony1963 said:
I’ve heard all sorts of systems, and all sorts of music, and I can see why some love what a sub does. I’m also willing to accept that sub tech has moved on greatly over the last few years. However, they just ain’t for me. I’m in a detached house, have the space, and could afford a decent sub.
But you are throwing away information. Live recordings are often transformed with a sub, even with material with no bass in instruments.
Often it is only when a sub is added that you can tell the size of the venue it was recorded in.
But also, with many speakers they simply can't reproduce the lower end of instruments, the LS3/5a is a good example, sure it sounds weighty with the hump at 76hz, but the reality is by 70hz in 95% of rooms it is already down 6db, and 6 db is a lot.
So, you can't hear the bottom end of a Pianao, harp, harpsicord, cello, bass, bass guitar, bassoon, tuba let alone an organ or so, so much electronic music which has the warmth added and the basslines in the 50hz zone.
As I said, it depends what music yo listen to.
For me I love soundtracks and electronic mixes, therefore a system without being able to get to 40hz properly without drop off sounds pretty s
t to me. Edited by gizlaroc on Monday 10th February 15:49
My fronts are B&W 802.
Centre is B&W HTM1
Side is B&W FPM6
Rear is B&W FPM5
Subwoofer is B&W ASW4000
When my sub was working perfectly, it certainly added in the very low end. It was the B&W top of the range, with the 15 inch speaker from the old 801 series. It packs a serious punch!
However, the electronics in it died a few years back and we moved from house to house, and in a reasonable sized living room, going without it was perfectly reasonable, in some cases preferable. That said, the B&W 802s bi-amped with a very chunky power amp meant I wasn't missing out on anything.
We recently moved to a house with a bigger living room - 8m by 6m and that got me the sub out again, and I bypassed the internal electronics and ran it as a passive sub from a spare channel on the power amp. It's set up with the Audyessy EQ with the microphone setup, and tweaked a bit to my ears.
What is good is with the 802s you can 'feel' the low bass. With the ASW4000, it thumps you. There's some well recorded music Audio DVDs and music blu-rays that this adds an extra dimension to, albeit it smears where the low bass is coming from in the mix.
For films, of course, there is a clear benefit as the sub is used as an impact device for explosions etc, and those feeling like they physically hit you is great. On the downside those very low frequencies activate the woodburner flue to vibrate pretty much every time which is a bit distracting.
In conclusion, I think you can run a system very happily either way depending on your taste. When I had a 4m by 5m cinema room the sub was simply overkill, but my speakers have drivers in them that are the size of some subs already. However, for a bigger room, they become a benefit. For music, it depends. If you like to physically 'feel' your music, then, it's almost essential.
Most music recordings don't contain much down in the infra-bass region but the ones that do ( Manley Labs and David Chesky's recordings spring to mind ) benefit enormously. As you know, it takes a huge amount of cone excursion / displacement to reproduce extreme LF at high playback levels ( 115dB+ )…...few people are interested in that bottom octave, or don't have the space needed or don't want to invest in the gear.
In my experience, the vast majority of people I have encountered with even a half decent HiFi system always seem to have the bass cranked right up to the point where it just sounds crap.
People like bass, whether accurate or not.
And the amount of blown woofers I replaced when I did HiFi repairs confirms this, as quite often people would bring both amp and speakers in for repair, and inevitably the loudness button would be engaged and bass control cranked up (often to the max).
People like bass, whether accurate or not.
And the amount of blown woofers I replaced when I did HiFi repairs confirms this, as quite often people would bring both amp and speakers in for repair, and inevitably the loudness button would be engaged and bass control cranked up (often to the max).
It must be 30 years since I owned an amp with tone controls. I can’t even remember any friends in that time that have had amps with tone controls or ‘loudness’ buttons.
What I have found is that most people I know who don’t give two sts about ‘quality’ often call ‘bass’ something closer to lower mids - around 120Hz which gives more of a ‘smack’ imho. What I call ‘real’ bass, where rooms get pressurised at high volume, never fails to astound. Whether they choose to invest the time, money and effort to get similar in their own homes is another subject...
I think it was Gizlaroc who mentioned it earlier but a well recorded live album is usually enough to convince - no real need for synthesised electronic sub-bass tracks to prove a point.
What I have found is that most people I know who don’t give two s
ts about ‘quality’ often call ‘bass’ something closer to lower mids - around 120Hz which gives more of a ‘smack’ imho. What I call ‘real’ bass, where rooms get pressurised at high volume, never fails to astound. Whether they choose to invest the time, money and effort to get similar in their own homes is another subject...I think it was Gizlaroc who mentioned it earlier but a well recorded live album is usually enough to convince - no real need for synthesised electronic sub-bass tracks to prove a point.
legzr1 said:
It must be 30 years since I owned an amp with tone controls. I can’t even remember any friends in that time that have had amps with tone controls or ‘loudness’ buttons.
What I have found is that most people I know who don’t give two sts about ‘quality’ often call ‘bass’ something closer to lower mids - around 120Hz which gives more of a ‘smack’ imho. What I call ‘real’ bass, where rooms get pressurised at high volume, never fails to astound. Whether they choose to invest the time, money and effort to get similar in their own homes is another subject...
I think it was Gizlaroc who mentioned it earlier but a well recorded live album is usually enough to convince - no real need for synthesised electronic sub-bass tracks to prove a point.
Ha! Listen to one now on my office system...What I have found is that most people I know who don’t give two s
ts about ‘quality’ often call ‘bass’ something closer to lower mids - around 120Hz which gives more of a ‘smack’ imho. What I call ‘real’ bass, where rooms get pressurised at high volume, never fails to astound. Whether they choose to invest the time, money and effort to get similar in their own homes is another subject...I think it was Gizlaroc who mentioned it earlier but a well recorded live album is usually enough to convince - no real need for synthesised electronic sub-bass tracks to prove a point.
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