Is Sonos the only viable wireless surround sound system?

Is Sonos the only viable wireless surround sound system?

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Mark300zx

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1,182 posts

210 months

Friday 6th September 2019
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Seems to dominate the stores but are there other options available at this price point?

kingston12

3,400 posts

115 months

Saturday 7th September 2019
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Mark300zx said:
Seems to dominate the stores but are there other options available at this price point?
No, there are plenty of others out there, but Sonos seems to work well for most.

It didn’t work for me, so I replaced it with Google Chromecast Audio devices. They are brilliant for less than £30 each and run a lot more stable than Sonos on my network. You can also buy the tech built into speakers which makes it more of a rival to the Sonos Play 1/3/5s.

That’s great for streaming Spotify around the house, but I haven’t been able to find an iOS control app I’m happy with for streaming my own collection, so I’ve just bought a Bluesound Node2i for the main zone. This is a bit like Sonos, but more expensive. I’m hoping it will be a bit more stable!

What are you going to stream, your own collection or online music?

Mark300zx

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1,182 posts

210 months

Saturday 7th September 2019
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kingston12 said:
No, there are plenty of others out there, but Sonos seems to work well for most.

It didn’t work for me, so I replaced it with Google Chromecast Audio devices. They are brilliant for less than £30 each and run a lot more stable than Sonos on my network. You can also buy the tech built into speakers which makes it more of a rival to the Sonos Play 1/3/5s.

That’s great for streaming Spotify around the house, but I haven’t been able to find an iOS control app I’m happy with for streaming my own collection, so I’ve just bought a Bluesound Node2i for the main zone. This is a bit like Sonos, but more expensive. I’m hoping it will be a bit more stable!

What are you going to stream, your own collection or online music?
I was going to use for home theatre with a Sonon sound bar.

kingston12

3,400 posts

115 months

Saturday 7th September 2019
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Mark300zx said:
I was going to use for home theatre with a Sonon sound bar.
Apologies, I really should have read the title of your thread before going off on a complete tangent!

Sonos should be a really good option for home cinema, although it is expensive for what it is. Sony do a system (HT-ZF9) which has wireless surround speakers and subwoofer.

I don't think there are that many others. I'm surprised wireless surrounds haven't become a bit more popular - the wires are a hassle, but the proper 5.1 effect is much better than a sounder with faux-surround (IMO).


bristolracer

3,841 posts

107 months

Sunday 8th September 2019
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Denon HEOS

Yamaha musiccast

Both good systems with lots of amps speakers and sound bars available

Mark300zx

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1,182 posts

210 months

Sunday 8th September 2019
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Apologies one further condition is there is no room for an amp, so sound bar, sub and rears only?

W12GT

2,608 posts

179 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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You should consider Bluesound.

Roundm

124 posts

76 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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kingston12 said:
Mark300zx said:
Seems to dominate the stores but are there other options available at this price point?
No, there are plenty of others out there, but Sonos seems to work well for most.

It didn’t work for me, so I replaced it with Google Chromecast Audio devices. They are brilliant for less than £30 each and run a lot more stable than Sonos on my network. You can also buy the tech built into speakers which makes it more of a rival to the Sonos Play 1/3/5s.

That’s great for streaming Spotify around the house, but I haven’t been able to find an iOS control app I’m happy with for streaming my own collection, so I’ve just bought a Bluesound Node2i for the main zone. This is a bit like Sonos, but more expensive. I’m hoping it will be a bit more stable!

What are you going to stream, your own collection or online music?
Kingston12 - you should take a look at Roon - I have a Qnap NAS with all my music on it (FLAC files) and can run the Roon server in the QNAP directly (effectively as an App) - it'll stream music to Sonos, Chromecast and anything that supports it's own protocol RAAS (of which there is a lot of quality gear including Bluesound and others). I have a mix of Chromecast, Sonos (which I'm moving away from as I dislike bugging my house with microphones and I refuse to put Alexa or similar in there until it can run without sending all data back to Amazon or Google or anyone) and some streamers which support HiRes streaming (192Kb etc) into my main hifi.

only thing it won't do is replicate the surroundsoud processing, but if you use it to stream to an AVR amp that solves that issue as well.

kingston12

3,400 posts

115 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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Roundm said:
Kingston12 - you should take a look at Roon - I have a Qnap NAS with all my music on it (FLAC files) and can run the Roon server in the QNAP directly (effectively as an App) - it'll stream music to Sonos, Chromecast and anything that supports it's own protocol RAAS (of which there is a lot of quality gear including Bluesound and others). I have a mix of Chromecast, Sonos (which I'm moving away from as I dislike bugging my house with microphones and I refuse to put Alexa or similar in there until it can run without sending all data back to Amazon or Google or anyone) and some streamers which support HiRes streaming (192Kb etc) into my main hifi.

only thing it won't do is replicate the surroundsoud processing, but if you use it to stream to an AVR amp that solves that issue as well.
I did look at Roon, and I am still quite keen on it.

I quite liked the idea of the Bluesound to get me up and running quickly, and it has done just that. It's been great to have my digital music collection back after so long.

Proper multiroom would be great though. I got rid of Sonos years ago because I could never get it to run properly on my network. I have got a Chromecast Audio in each 'zone', attached to a variety of AVRs and active speakers. They work really well for Spotify, but having my own library in all zones would be great, especially without going to the expense of a Node 2i for each.

I have got a Synology NAS that could run as the Core. When I get a chance, I'll sign up for the free trial and configure it to see if it works for me.

ecotec

373 posts

87 months

Monday 23rd September 2019
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Just a quick note on the Chromecast Audio - Google have discontinued this product.

https://9to5google.com/2019/01/11/google-discontin...

ecotec

373 posts

87 months

Monday 23rd September 2019
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Roundm said:
Kingston12 - I have a mix of Chromecast, Sonos (which I'm moving away from as I dislike bugging my house with microphones and I refuse to put Alexa or similar in there until it can run without sending all data back to Amazon or Google or anyone) .
The new Sonos One SL (and the IKEA/Sonos speakers) do not have mics - long thread on the Sonos forum with users requesting it,

seveb

211 posts

31 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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If you use Roon you can also use things like Raspberry Pi with wifi (or any Windows NUC for example) and a USB DAC like Cyrus SoundKey into an amp to get fantastic quality sound which leaves Sonos for dead. It's more complicated to set up but once done, runs for ever.

It will also drive DACs like Chord Dave. Roon really is the way forward I think.

A full list of Roon partners is here: https://roonlabs.com/partners.html

Roon tested and Roon ready devices: https://kb.roonlabs.com/Partner_Devices_Matrix

Miserablegit

1,667 posts

67 months

Tuesday 1st October 2019
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I’d recommend Yamaha over Sonos these days.
Yamaha can play hires files that sonos cannot
I still have a sonos set up but since they killed their dedicated controller and moved towards pay streaming services I’ve moved to Yamaha.
Also take a look at Volumio through a raspberry pi.


mattyn1

4,495 posts

113 months

Sunday 13th October 2019
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I have always liked the look of Sonos - its ability to cope with Home Cinema and multi room streaming - none moreso because it seems easy to understand from the web site.

However for decent home cinema, and stable and good quality multi room music streaming, which would you choose - especially using Apple Music as a source?

Also, can I add a turntable to the system easily?

Edited by mattyn1 on Sunday 13th October 11:00

matjk

903 posts

98 months

Sunday 13th October 2019
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I really like my sonos setup , I have play3 doted around the house like kitchen and bedrooms then a beam and sub with pair of Play5s as surrounds . I haven’t tried it with Apple Music but it’s pretty flawless with Spotify. It’s so easy to set up , I added a turntable via the play5 but I have to remove them as surrounds to make it work , which takes 30 seconds but it’s a bit of a pain .

mattyn1

4,495 posts

113 months

Sunday 13th October 2019
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matjk said:
I really like my sonos setup , I have play3 doted around the house like kitchen and bedrooms then a beam and sub with pair of Play5s as surrounds . I haven’t tried it with Apple Music but it’s pretty flawless with Spotify. It’s so easy to set up , I added a turntable via the play5 but I have to remove them as surrounds to make it work , which takes 30 seconds but it’s a bit of a pain .
Sounds good...... did you test any others? Heos for instance?

nobby8628

45 posts

176 months

Monday 14th October 2019
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I currently run a HEOS set up in my house

i have the HEOS bar and sub connected to one of my tv's

i also have the 7 series speaker in HS2 guise. NB the HS2 is important if you wish to stream HI RES files eg new Amazon HD music service.

IF you have newer marantz equipment HEOS is also built into it as part of the Denon family.

over the next wee while may add the series 1 speakers as they can integrate with bar and make 5.1 sound etc

I done a fair bit of reading and testing prior to committing to HEOS a couple of years back and NO regrets. It is a very good system, easy to use etc and the speakers are of high build quality. would highly recommend over Sonos

Yamaha multicast supposed to be very good so worth a look. Out of the bunch, these 2 would get my vote all day long

bristolracer

3,841 posts

107 months

Monday 14th October 2019
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Had
Enough
Of
Sonos

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HughiusMaximus

409 posts

84 months

Monday 14th October 2019
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I'm a fan of sonos and have them littered around the house.

I wouldnt go the sonos route for a TV setup - its too expensive at around 1600 quid...

SeanST150

74 posts

42 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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W12GT said:
You should consider Bluesound.
This^^^^

I have a few Bluesound products and they are excellent, they can be configured into a wireless surround sound.