Cinema rooms - what have you got?
Discussion
Harry Flashman said:
These SVS subs are brilliant. I need to do some more careful setup, and they need to be run in, but they are already a transformation of the experience.
Not big enough for full trouser flapping bass, but perfectly pitched for my room. You feel the bass now, as well as hearing it. I do think though that a bigger room would need more. But these are perfect for mine.
They are perhaps not as musical as the PV1Ds, or even my original 8 inch Tannoy, but they are far better at atmospheric and theatrical bass, and they still have some running in to do and of course can be heavily tuned from the app.
App is fantastic too. And the small size of the enclosures mean they don't look too ugly.
Now for some cable tidying etc.
Looks good but is there enough amp airflow /heat dissipation? Not big enough for full trouser flapping bass, but perfectly pitched for my room. You feel the bass now, as well as hearing it. I do think though that a bigger room would need more. But these are perfect for mine.
They are perhaps not as musical as the PV1Ds, or even my original 8 inch Tannoy, but they are far better at atmospheric and theatrical bass, and they still have some running in to do and of course can be heavily tuned from the app.
App is fantastic too. And the small size of the enclosures mean they don't look too ugly.
Now for some cable tidying etc.
Edited by Harry Flashman on Sunday 28th November 12:32
heisthegaffer said:
Looks good but is there enough amp airflow /heat dissipation?
Very true I had an ATC amp in an open sided rack but with only about 2" above it and after a few months it started making a cracking sound turns out it wasn't getting enough
air flow to it
Cost me a few hundred to fix
heisthegaffer said:
Harry Flashman said:
These SVS subs are brilliant. I need to do some more careful setup, and they need to be run in, but they are already a transformation of the experience.
Not big enough for full trouser flapping bass, but perfectly pitched for my room. You feel the bass now, as well as hearing it. I do think though that a bigger room would need more. But these are perfect for mine.
They are perhaps not as musical as the PV1Ds, or even my original 8 inch Tannoy, but they are far better at atmospheric and theatrical bass, and they still have some running in to do and of course can be heavily tuned from the app.
App is fantastic too. And the small size of the enclosures mean they don't look too ugly.
Now for some cable tidying etc.
Looks good but is there enough amp airflow /heat dissipation? Not big enough for full trouser flapping bass, but perfectly pitched for my room. You feel the bass now, as well as hearing it. I do think though that a bigger room would need more. But these are perfect for mine.
They are perhaps not as musical as the PV1Ds, or even my original 8 inch Tannoy, but they are far better at atmospheric and theatrical bass, and they still have some running in to do and of course can be heavily tuned from the app.
App is fantastic too. And the small size of the enclosures mean they don't look too ugly.
Now for some cable tidying etc.
Edited by Harry Flashman on Sunday 28th November 12:32
The Musical Fidelity A.3.2 on the left is not connected to anything since my abortive DIY subwoofer experiment.
Sadly, the system is being run in watching Frozen. Again.
Actually a great way to calibrate/ appreciate the subs as I have seen this film. So. Many. Times.
Edited by Harry Flashman on Sunday 28th November 17:55
Harry Flashman said:
These SVS subs are brilliant. I need to do some more careful setup, and they need to be run in, but they are already a transformation of the experience.
Not big enough for full trouser flapping bass, but perfectly pitched for my room. You feel the bass now, as well as hearing it. I do think though that a bigger room would need more. But these are perfect for mine.
They are perhaps not as musical as the PV1Ds, or even my original 8 inch Tannoy, but they are far better at atmospheric and theatrical bass, and they still have some running in to do and of course can be heavily tuned from the app.
App is fantastic too. And the small size of the enclosures mean they don't look too ugly.
Now for some cable tidying etc.
I reckon you could stack several more on top of those... Not big enough for full trouser flapping bass, but perfectly pitched for my room. You feel the bass now, as well as hearing it. I do think though that a bigger room would need more. But these are perfect for mine.
They are perhaps not as musical as the PV1Ds, or even my original 8 inch Tannoy, but they are far better at atmospheric and theatrical bass, and they still have some running in to do and of course can be heavily tuned from the app.
App is fantastic too. And the small size of the enclosures mean they don't look too ugly.
Now for some cable tidying etc.
Edited by Harry Flashman on Sunday 28th November 12:32
RSTurboPaul said:
Harry Flashman said:
These SVS subs are brilliant. I need to do some more careful setup, and they need to be run in, but they are already a transformation of the experience.
Not big enough for full trouser flapping bass, but perfectly pitched for my room. You feel the bass now, as well as hearing it. I do think though that a bigger room would need more. But these are perfect for mine.
They are perhaps not as musical as the PV1Ds, or even my original 8 inch Tannoy, but they are far better at atmospheric and theatrical bass, and they still have some running in to do and of course can be heavily tuned from the app.
App is fantastic too. And the small size of the enclosures mean they don't look too ugly.
Now for some cable tidying etc.
I reckon you could stack several more on top of those... Not big enough for full trouser flapping bass, but perfectly pitched for my room. You feel the bass now, as well as hearing it. I do think though that a bigger room would need more. But these are perfect for mine.
They are perhaps not as musical as the PV1Ds, or even my original 8 inch Tannoy, but they are far better at atmospheric and theatrical bass, and they still have some running in to do and of course can be heavily tuned from the app.
App is fantastic too. And the small size of the enclosures mean they don't look too ugly.
Now for some cable tidying etc.
Edited by Harry Flashman on Sunday 28th November 12:32
Approx. 19" wide, 26.5" tall and 28" deep. Weight: 190 pounds
Harry Flashman said:
heisthegaffer said:
Harry Flashman said:
These SVS subs are brilliant. I need to do some more careful setup, and they need to be run in, but they are already a transformation of the experience.
Not big enough for full trouser flapping bass, but perfectly pitched for my room. You feel the bass now, as well as hearing it. I do think though that a bigger room would need more. But these are perfect for mine.
They are perhaps not as musical as the PV1Ds, or even my original 8 inch Tannoy, but they are far better at atmospheric and theatrical bass, and they still have some running in to do and of course can be heavily tuned from the app.
App is fantastic too. And the small size of the enclosures mean they don't look too ugly.
Now for some cable tidying etc.
Looks good but is there enough amp airflow /heat dissipation? Not big enough for full trouser flapping bass, but perfectly pitched for my room. You feel the bass now, as well as hearing it. I do think though that a bigger room would need more. But these are perfect for mine.
They are perhaps not as musical as the PV1Ds, or even my original 8 inch Tannoy, but they are far better at atmospheric and theatrical bass, and they still have some running in to do and of course can be heavily tuned from the app.
App is fantastic too. And the small size of the enclosures mean they don't look too ugly.
Now for some cable tidying etc.
Edited by Harry Flashman on Sunday 28th November 12:32
The Musical Fidelity A.3.2 on the left is not connected to anything since my abortive DIY subwoofer experiment.
Sadly, the system is being run in watching Frozen. Again.
Actually a great way to calibrate/ appreciate the subs as I have seen this film. So. Many. Times.
Edited by Harry Flashman on Sunday 28th November 17:55
Honestly, a modern active sub is far more versatile and tuneable than using the sub outs on the receiver to my old (but excellent) Musical Fidelity integrated amp and powering the massive old PMC XB1 sub.
That PMC passive sub is huge, and placement became an issue. I couldn't put it where it needed to be, as it is not only the size of a van, but ugly as sin too.
The SVS dual sub setup is tighter, louder and goes lower. Technology, as they say, moves on.
That PMC passive sub is huge, and placement became an issue. I couldn't put it where it needed to be, as it is not only the size of a van, but ugly as sin too.
The SVS dual sub setup is tighter, louder and goes lower. Technology, as they say, moves on.
Harry Flashman said:
Honestly, a modern active sub is far more versatile and tuneable than using the sub outs on the receiver to my old (but excellent) Musical Fidelity integrated amp and powering the massive old PMC XB1 sub.
That PMC passive sub is huge, and placement became an issue. I couldn't put it where it needed to be, as it is not only the size of a van, but ugly as sin too.
The SVS dual sub setup is tighter, louder and goes lower. Technology, as they say, moves on.
lolThat PMC passive sub is huge, and placement became an issue. I couldn't put it where it needed to be, as it is not only the size of a van, but ugly as sin too.
The SVS dual sub setup is tighter, louder and goes lower. Technology, as they say, moves on.
Fair enough
I have been happy with my DIY effort but I have definitely made some trade-offs
Edited by RSTurboPaul on Monday 29th November 22:35
Mine are now run in and the big bass has arrived, presumably as they can now run at full extension. They go very deep in a small room. I have various presets on the app to deal with AV and music in surround and direct modes on the avr. And no bass blindspots at all with two of them running.
To be honest, as they have run in more they have needed dialling back and all speaker levels recalibrating to avoid overpowering the rest of the system. So much headroom.
To be honest, as they have run in more they have needed dialling back and all speaker levels recalibrating to avoid overpowering the rest of the system. So much headroom.
Bit of a thread resurrection here, but didn't feel this justified its own thread. My room is coming along nicely, I've just added a second SVS PB2000 Pro, which being honest hasnt been the revelation I was hoping for. I still need to do a lot of work with REW/UMIK to get it set up right. I was hoping the Denon multi sub EQ would have done most of the hard work.
I just feel its still lacking 'pressurisation'..
Anyways, my next step is I'm going to paint the room, along with the ceiling as it needs a couple of minor plaster touchs ups. I would appreciate some thoughts on my plans. The room is currently all brilliant white which isnt great for a projector set up, but the room also doubles up as a bit of a play room for my son so I can't (and don't particularly want to) go full bat cave matt black type room.
What I am thinking is, a colour like Natural Slate for all the walls, and a darker grey for the ceiling (and possibly the wall behind the screen). Or should I go all the same colour, or leave the ceiling white? If I go the two greys, which of the two would you paint the cornices? would leaving them white look odd?
The room -
Colour ideas -
Walls - Natural Slate
Roof Bowler hat
ETA -
I guess it would look similar to this -
|https://thumbsnap.com/64ypcfDK[/url]
I just feel its still lacking 'pressurisation'..
Anyways, my next step is I'm going to paint the room, along with the ceiling as it needs a couple of minor plaster touchs ups. I would appreciate some thoughts on my plans. The room is currently all brilliant white which isnt great for a projector set up, but the room also doubles up as a bit of a play room for my son so I can't (and don't particularly want to) go full bat cave matt black type room.
What I am thinking is, a colour like Natural Slate for all the walls, and a darker grey for the ceiling (and possibly the wall behind the screen). Or should I go all the same colour, or leave the ceiling white? If I go the two greys, which of the two would you paint the cornices? would leaving them white look odd?
The room -
Colour ideas -
Walls - Natural Slate
Roof Bowler hat
ETA -
I guess it would look similar to this -
|https://thumbsnap.com/64ypcfDK[/url]Edited by justin220 on Sunday 3rd April 10:01
[url]Edited by justin220 on Sunday 3rd April 10:03
LeadFarmer said:
Evolved said:
Nice sofa, can I ask what make/model it is please? 
I’ll have to dig out the receipt. It’s Italian I remember that much as it was being sold by a company that stock Natuzzi, this was an alternative brand.
It’s in storage at the moment as we’re working on the next build. Slightly smaller room this time but that’ll give the AV setup less space to ‘fill’ niceeee.
Edited by Evolved on Sunday 3rd April 16:22
On the room thing, my dark room is also sometimes used as a playroom by my girls, and they like it just fine. I actually wish I had a dark ceiling as the white ceiling is a distraction. One day, going to have a false/suspended ceiling done, with Atmos speakers and fun mood lighting LEDs done. Easy to do, just messy.
Another question, chaps, I like my Sony 1080, but would quite like a noticeable upgrade for audio. I use the room to listen to music, too, and whilst an AVR will never give audiophile performance, I reckon the Sony (which is a great amp) hits its limitations here.
This is all streaming services, so sound quality is not CD level anyway, but o do go with lossless/HD content so not that bad. Mainly electronic music (house and DnB) so needs a bit of attack. Vocals are key as I like vocal electronic music.
My PMC TB2+ front speaker setup is very good at this. I hooked them up to my old Musical Fidelity and got a noticeably better performance than the Sony delivered (no surprise there).
So a couple of ways to work this, and advice courted;
1) just upgrade the AVR. Denon 6700h. Expensive method
2) as above, but use amp pre outs (my Sony lacks these) to connect the Musical Fidelity to the fronts. Use 2 channel stereo mode to effectively bypass the AVR and use the PMC/MF setup for music, but with the input functionality of the AVR.
3) cheap and cheerful. Connect the hifi amp to my PMCs fronts alongside, but separately to, my current Sony AVR. Have a streaming device connected to the hifi amp for music listening purposes. But how do I do this? Can you have a device that allows separate amplified sources to connect to one pair of speakers, and safely swith between them?
Another question, chaps, I like my Sony 1080, but would quite like a noticeable upgrade for audio. I use the room to listen to music, too, and whilst an AVR will never give audiophile performance, I reckon the Sony (which is a great amp) hits its limitations here.
This is all streaming services, so sound quality is not CD level anyway, but o do go with lossless/HD content so not that bad. Mainly electronic music (house and DnB) so needs a bit of attack. Vocals are key as I like vocal electronic music.
My PMC TB2+ front speaker setup is very good at this. I hooked them up to my old Musical Fidelity and got a noticeably better performance than the Sony delivered (no surprise there).
So a couple of ways to work this, and advice courted;
1) just upgrade the AVR. Denon 6700h. Expensive method
2) as above, but use amp pre outs (my Sony lacks these) to connect the Musical Fidelity to the fronts. Use 2 channel stereo mode to effectively bypass the AVR and use the PMC/MF setup for music, but with the input functionality of the AVR.
3) cheap and cheerful. Connect the hifi amp to my PMCs fronts alongside, but separately to, my current Sony AVR. Have a streaming device connected to the hifi amp for music listening purposes. But how do I do this? Can you have a device that allows separate amplified sources to connect to one pair of speakers, and safely swith between them?
My room is fully treated with black carpets, walls, ceiling etc. the room is still useable for listening to music and whatever I just have the lights on (low). Once the lights are off the screen is the only thing that you see, no reflections. The pic above of the all white room are terrible, nice potential though with good seating etc. If you can treat the room your picture will improve 1000 fold.
Paint isn’t enough as even black paint is still reflective. You need something non reflective.
Paint isn’t enough as even black paint is still reflective. You need something non reflective.
I went with dark Green (F&B Studio Green mixed in Leyland tough matt). Black was too uncompromising for me as the room also doubles as a den/chill out room and black doesn't work for me in that respect. The green sets off the brass, brown leather and dark wood tones I have used for the furniture.
Green is one if the easiest colours to decorate with, but I am also a fan of Farrow & Ball's Hague Blue, which is a lovely, relaxing colour. Just have it mixed by a paints hop in another brand, as the F&B paint is both very expensive, and (I found) a pain to apply in dark colours.
Green is one if the easiest colours to decorate with, but I am also a fan of Farrow & Ball's Hague Blue, which is a lovely, relaxing colour. Just have it mixed by a paints hop in another brand, as the F&B paint is both very expensive, and (I found) a pain to apply in dark colours.
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