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thebraketester

14,246 posts

139 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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HustleRussell said:
TonyRPH said:
HustleRussell said:
How best to clean a laser lens? Considering the thing appears to work I should probably resist the urge to meddle?
If it's working ok my advice is to leave it alone.

In case I missed it - what CD player is it?
Resurrecting Dad's Technics SL-P555 (for use with my contemporary Sony amplifier). I'm going to clean and lubricate the tray mechanism and I've got a new belt on the way. I had it playing at the weekend though and all appears to be well with the way it reads.

Internet seems to fancy it as a pretty decent player. Class AA & MASH. It's missing a foot, and it's remote unfortunately. Keeping an eye out for a foot.
Fab. I was looking for a 555 or a 777 when looking for mine. I need up with an almost mint sl p350.

I say if it's not broken don't try and fix it. If it's reading CD fine then leave it.

I have noticed that some CDs will not play in mine. Some copied discs and some that are coloured just don't read.

C n C

3,314 posts

222 months

Wednesday 8th February 2023
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HustleRussell said:
TonyRPH said:
HustleRussell said:
How best to clean a laser lens? Considering the thing appears to work I should probably resist the urge to meddle?
If it's working ok my advice is to leave it alone.

In case I missed it - what CD player is it?
Resurrecting Dad's Technics SL-P555 (for use with my contemporary Sony amplifier). I'm going to clean and lubricate the tray mechanism and I've got a new belt on the way. I had it playing at the weekend though and all appears to be well with the way it reads.

Internet seems to fancy it as a pretty decent player. Class AA & MASH. It's missing a foot, and it's remote unfortunately. Keeping an eye out for a foot.
Looks like you can also get a 3rd party replacement remote for £10 from EBay.

HustleRussell

24,722 posts

161 months

Monday 13th February 2023
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Cleaned up and lubricated the disc tray on the Technics today and put it together with a new belt. Worked first time. Very satisfying! Back in service for the first time in at least 15 years, and sounding great.



…and look what I found!


TonyRPH

12,977 posts

169 months

Tuesday 14th February 2023
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Very nice and not very common in silver either!

miniman

24,985 posts

263 months

Tuesday 14th February 2023
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HustleRussell said:
Cleaned up and lubricated the disc tray on the Technics today and put it together with a new belt. Worked first time. Very satisfying! Back in service for the first time in at least 15 years, and sounding great.

Little brother still going strong after 31 years thumbup


HustleRussell

24,722 posts

161 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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No denying the family connection! I've only had mine a few weeks.

(Maybe these Sonys are more 'classic' than 'vintage'?)

TonyRPH

12,977 posts

169 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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This 'F' series was Sony's swan song in the 1980's IMHO.

The TA-F100/110/200/210 pretty much shared the same chassis, but the F440/F540 + others were entirely different beasts.


paul.deitch

2,105 posts

258 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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TonyRPH said:
This 'F' series was Sony's swan song in the 1980's IMHO.
The TA-F100/110/200/210 pretty much shared the same chassis, but the F440/F540 + others were entirely different beasts.
Does that mean that they stopped making amps or that they were the best?

TonyRPH

12,977 posts

169 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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paul.deitch said:
Does that mean that they stopped making amps or that they were the best?
I believe they were the best of Sony.

They went on to make the FB series (930/940) which were Mosfet amps and didn't sound anywhere near as good IMHO.

The FB series arguably did look nicer though!


psi310398

9,115 posts

204 months

Wednesday 15th February 2023
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Well, FWIW, I am currently working with Mr Coltrane in the background, courtesy of an elderly Quad 44 and 405.2. What a revelation!

And to think, these were shelved in the late Eighties in favour of a rather spiffy Braun Atelier set, which is not bad at all, and which had the advantage of a unified remote and tape and turntable. Perfectly competent but shown a clean pair of heels in the amp and tuner departments by the contemporaneous Quads.

I’d hooked them up to listen to them before deciding whether they were worth the investment of my sending them off for a precautionary service and then pressing them back into service in my study. And, while I am at it, maybe some tweaks eg adjustment on some inputs to modern line level (as they are currently taking the streamer input through Rothwells).

Coming back to them evinces a similar sensation in me to that of finding a formerly favourite old jacket at the back of the wardrobe and trying it on.

They are really not at all shabby and have plenty of grunt - I’ve had doses of Bach organ, Elgar cello, the Clash, Ian Dury, Beth Orton, the Eagles, ELO and Supertramp going through them, and am now on the jazz, and nothing much seems to be troubling them.

I suspect the performance would be even less shabby if I had dug out a better pair of speakers than the Fujitsu ones sitting in my study. (I think I have some Dali bookshelf speakers somewhere in the loft that might work well.)

I really had forgotten just how good these Quad units were/are and I’m wondering if I should at least keep the 405.2 and possibly get another for bi-amping duties in my main system. You would have spend a fair whack these days to get an amp of similar grip, clarity and euphony. And they really are not fatiguing at all to listen to.

Both of my streamer/dacs can act as a preamp so the 44 isn’t strictly necessary but I quite like the tone controls (there, I’ve said it) and having the 44 around would permit the use of a turntable. I can make the decision while they are away as I will instead be setting up a spare Quad 99 power amp that will be driven directly by one of the streamer/dacs. Being able to use an app to mute or change volume without moving will be be a blessing OTH, lazy fart that I am…

However, cosmetically they could do with sprucing up. I know that very old Quads have matching paint supplies but, short of going to a car body shop, I am a bit stumped on locating the rather eighties brown and eau de nil tones of the time for these units. The tilt switches in particular, need sprucing up. Any thoughts, please?

808 Estate

2,124 posts

92 months

Sunday 5th March 2023
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I now have a particularly tidy heavyweight turntable to add to the system.


MC Bodge

21,640 posts

176 months

Sunday 5th March 2023
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I've been looking at the very early 90s Sony separates.

My Dad had what seemed like quite a good system back then (The cassette player in particularly was quite sophisticated) and fairly large three-way speakers.

The amplifier had full graphical EQ adjustment, and various preset "modes" wth impressive bass boost that would shake the windows to The Prodigy....

...when my friends were visiting and my Dad was at work wink


TwigtheWonderkid

43,402 posts

151 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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808 Estate said:
I now have a particularly tidy heavyweight turntable to add to the system.

That's just a rip off of my Audio Technica hehe

psi310398

9,115 posts

204 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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I’m at my holiday home and working through a pile of old kit at the moment.

Today has been the 120/100/100 volt step down day.

There’s an Adcom GFA-555 that needs no work except a clean up. A classic Nelson Pass design that you’d need to spend a fair bit to improve on. Masses of grunt and very clean sound.

It’s being fed by a lovely old preamp that I think may be a 70s Japanese kit - it’s labelled as a Sound Explorer EL-880 Mark II and manufactured by Suzurando. I bought it on a whim from a chap on Pinkfish a few years ago and then put it aside during a couple of bereavements and their admin aftermaths. Anyway, I dug it out recently and what a thing! It is wonderfully clear and detailed but has no obvious personality. I’ve had the top off and can’t see any issues with the electronics, so I’ve just squizzed it with air, cleaned the RCA sockets with alcohol and have put some contact cleaner on the switches and pots.



The problem child is the US-spec 1989 Luxman CD player - a DZ-112, which, when it behaves, is a very civilised way of listening to CDs, far smoother especially in the trebles than Sonys and others of the same vintage. But it keeps rejecting perfectly good discs and it looks like the lens is on the way out and the replacements are unobtainable. As I also have a Cary 308 with the valve output, that won’t be too painful. I got the Luxman for ISTR $10 in a Minneapolis thrift shop twenty years ago so I’ve had value from it and I’ll probably get £15 for the rare remote that still works.

I’ve also been having a bit of fun pairing the Adcom and the Sound Explorer with an early 80s Aiwa mini pair of c30 and P30 power and pre respectively to surprisingly good effect. These are way superior to any reasonable expectation of what these paperback sized units should deliver. Very clear with quite a bit of oomph at reasonable volumes, and very respectable bass. It’s a toss up whether this pair or my Quad 44/405.2 will perform my study duties (although the Quads are their superiors in every way). Both pairs are very easy on the ears over long periods.



If anybody recalls anything about the Sound Explorer preamp I’d be interested as there only seem to be some passing references on Google, largely in Japanese. But I could swear from dredging up very old memories that Suzurando, or was it Suzuran Do, was a Japanese Heathkit type vendor? Anyway I won’t be letting this go any time soon - great but of kit.




Edited by psi310398 on Saturday 11th March 07:25

TonyRPH

12,977 posts

169 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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You can still buy a KSS-152A replacement laser for the Luxman - don't write it off just yet...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pickup-Optical-KSS-152A-E...

psi310398

9,115 posts

204 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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Ah, thank you. I had been misinformed. Although £55 is a bit of a risk for an old beater!

Jaaaag

29 posts

18 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Hey guys

Apologies if this is a hijack but it seemed like the correct place to put it - there is a standalone thread but I was naked as I wrote that one, I'm clothed now as it seems more appropriate.

Any idea what speakers would be a good and working upgrade for this?


TonyRPH

12,977 posts

169 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Jaaaag said:
Hey guys

Apologies if this is a hijack but it seemed like the correct place to put it - there is a standalone thread but I was naked as I wrote that one, I'm clothed now as it seems more appropriate.

Any idea what speakers would be a good and working upgrade for this?

It's 60w per channel, so would suit a decent bookshelf speaker.

If you happy with a used speaker there's a huge choice from Mission, Q-Acoustics, Wharfedale etc.

I can recommend Wharfedale 9.1 / 10.1



psi310398

9,115 posts

204 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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TonyRPH said:
It's 60w per channel, so would suit a decent bookshelf speaker.

If you happy with a used speaker there's a huge choice from Mission, Q-Acoustics, Wharfedale etc.

I can recommend Wharfedale 9.1 / 10.1
It depends a bit on your tastes. I’m currently listening to the Black Rebel Motorcycle Club through a valve output Cary CD player into a Quad 99 amp and out on on a pair of cheap Dali Zensor 1 bookshelf speakers.

Very, er, lively, despite the smoothing out of the valves, and very much not the BBC monitoring sound. Equally, it could just be a very harsh recording.

A smoother pairing; in my study, I had some Kef Coda 9 floorstanders with a nineties Sony amp for several years. Perfectly decent combination and not overly fatiguing for long spells.

MC Bodge

21,640 posts

176 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Jaaaag said:
Hey guys

Apologies if this is a hijack but it seemed like the correct place to put it - there is a standalone thread but I was naked as I wrote that one, I'm clothed now as it seems more appropriate.

Any idea what speakers would be a good and working upgrade for this?

My Dad had a similar one, possibly slightly later, 1990/1? .

That had 3-way Sony speakers. It sounded very good at the time.

Ps. From memory it cost £550, which must have been quite expensive 32/3 years ago.